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OK. About Valentino- (I can almost hear the groans now) Yes, he is looking quite the dork. Ok, he got busted. This much we know. But so far, all I've seen is flames about this guy. Hold on, let me give a preface to help explain where I'm about to come from.
Question- Why does this board exist?
Answer (and feel free to dispute this. I'd love to hear other views)- Because knowledge of effective and safe strategies for application of pharmaceutical administration for bodybuilding purposes are primarily derived from anecdotal data. We gather here to learn from others who have experienced what we would like to, but are unsure of how to go about it. Anyone who is truly into the chemical aspect of this lifestyle knows that, for decades now, BB's have used thmeselves as guinea pigs to understand the ways in which diffent compunds work. Be they AS, HGH, slin, thyroids, anti-catabolics, anti-ests, etc. it doesn't matter. Fact is that medical finances will probably never be alotted to finding a way for people to grow into siverback gorillas.
When I look at the boards these days, I see two predominant lines of curiosity. Does it work, how, have you? blah blah about:
PGF2A
Site injections
Does anyone see where I'm going yet?
This post doesn't pertain to PGF2A so we will set that aside for now. Let's talk about site injections.
Do they work? Yes.
What do we inject? Depends.
Why do they work? Yet to be proven. And there are several theories.
1-when locating AS into a muscle group, you are giving that group priority for recieving the actions of the AS
2-local inflamation at the injection site resulting in swelling
3-scar tissue buildup from needle trauma
4-when using slow-dispersing oils, the muscle fascia is stretched, allowing more space to build vascular tissue and have less physical resistance to lean tissue expansion and growth
Of course, we have all heard all of this but none of it answers whether or not locating an injectable will lead to permanent gains.
Now we may be closer to an answer.
Now then. Let's say this Valentino character goes to prison. I won't be ignorant enough to say that you can't get illegal substances behind the walls but realisticly, you could never hoard the amount of gear and pharms required to maintain his size in a cell. We all know what kind of space our cupboards loose the minute we buy protien powders for a month, let alone all the other goodies required for a cycle. This guy will be given a staple diet as well. Without a doubt lacking in all 22 amino acids that comprise human muscle tissue, no 3 hour ingestion frequency, and you all know the lymph ducts insure that we require this timing.
So...Are we all in agreement that this gentleman stands to lose considerable size? Can I get a "hell yeah!"
What can we expect to see?
1-he has implants in his bi's and tri's- his body will not be able to maintain size without a consistant androgen presence. we will see his body shrink and his implants will become more defined and thus reveal he is truly fake
2- we take him at his word that he only injects Winny and we see if his arms stay
3- most important in the realm of understanding locatable capric/caprillic acid/oil blends - he is a synthol user (who cares at this point, this is education) and we see if, as the oil disperses and is metabolized, if he goes back to normal symmetry.
Understand, I don't agree with what he's done to himself and I really don't want to know what he was thinking that made him do it and keep it up. BUT... this man might hold the answers to many of our site location questions during his incarceration. As a bodybuilding community, we may owe him for this knowledge from his sacrifice (albeit self-gratifying in origin), if his future stats can provide answers to our questions on this subject. Hopefully he will talk a bit during his stay so that we may be more sure of his past methods and deduce accordingly.
Just a thought.
Question- Why does this board exist?
Answer (and feel free to dispute this. I'd love to hear other views)- Because knowledge of effective and safe strategies for application of pharmaceutical administration for bodybuilding purposes are primarily derived from anecdotal data. We gather here to learn from others who have experienced what we would like to, but are unsure of how to go about it. Anyone who is truly into the chemical aspect of this lifestyle knows that, for decades now, BB's have used thmeselves as guinea pigs to understand the ways in which diffent compunds work. Be they AS, HGH, slin, thyroids, anti-catabolics, anti-ests, etc. it doesn't matter. Fact is that medical finances will probably never be alotted to finding a way for people to grow into siverback gorillas.
When I look at the boards these days, I see two predominant lines of curiosity. Does it work, how, have you? blah blah about:
PGF2A
Site injections
Does anyone see where I'm going yet?
This post doesn't pertain to PGF2A so we will set that aside for now. Let's talk about site injections.
Do they work? Yes.
What do we inject? Depends.
Why do they work? Yet to be proven. And there are several theories.
1-when locating AS into a muscle group, you are giving that group priority for recieving the actions of the AS
2-local inflamation at the injection site resulting in swelling
3-scar tissue buildup from needle trauma
4-when using slow-dispersing oils, the muscle fascia is stretched, allowing more space to build vascular tissue and have less physical resistance to lean tissue expansion and growth
Of course, we have all heard all of this but none of it answers whether or not locating an injectable will lead to permanent gains.
Now we may be closer to an answer.
Now then. Let's say this Valentino character goes to prison. I won't be ignorant enough to say that you can't get illegal substances behind the walls but realisticly, you could never hoard the amount of gear and pharms required to maintain his size in a cell. We all know what kind of space our cupboards loose the minute we buy protien powders for a month, let alone all the other goodies required for a cycle. This guy will be given a staple diet as well. Without a doubt lacking in all 22 amino acids that comprise human muscle tissue, no 3 hour ingestion frequency, and you all know the lymph ducts insure that we require this timing.
So...Are we all in agreement that this gentleman stands to lose considerable size? Can I get a "hell yeah!"
What can we expect to see?
1-he has implants in his bi's and tri's- his body will not be able to maintain size without a consistant androgen presence. we will see his body shrink and his implants will become more defined and thus reveal he is truly fake
2- we take him at his word that he only injects Winny and we see if his arms stay
3- most important in the realm of understanding locatable capric/caprillic acid/oil blends - he is a synthol user (who cares at this point, this is education) and we see if, as the oil disperses and is metabolized, if he goes back to normal symmetry.
Understand, I don't agree with what he's done to himself and I really don't want to know what he was thinking that made him do it and keep it up. BUT... this man might hold the answers to many of our site location questions during his incarceration. As a bodybuilding community, we may owe him for this knowledge from his sacrifice (albeit self-gratifying in origin), if his future stats can provide answers to our questions on this subject. Hopefully he will talk a bit during his stay so that we may be more sure of his past methods and deduce accordingly.
Just a thought.
