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What method do you use to meet/hook up with chicks in clubs and bars?

MFMan

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Everytime I go into a bar I walk out in utter disgust. Problem is I go into the places with the intention of having a good time and possibly meeting someone at the very least. I always start to pyche myself up before I go in and tell myself if I don't meet any chicks its not the end of the world. This method always fails miserably everytime. After about three hours of standing in the same fuckin place it gets to old. So I'm not really what you would call shy but I sure as shit am not going to approach women that don't give me a glance for obvious reasons {there with boyfriend, friends, lesbians}. Now heres the real kicker, I notice the fat ugly motherfuckers with some of the hottest women in the place. This bewilders me everytime. I'm not the next Brad Pitt but I'm sure as hell not ugly either. This is what gets me. So I just console myself in the knowledge that this is just a bad night and reinforces why I detest the opposite sex so much . But problem is, it happens every fucking night. Any advice?
 
MFMan said:
Everytime I go into a bar I walk out in utter disgust. Problem is I go into the places with the intention of having a good time and possibly meeting someone at the very least. I always start to pyche myself up before I go in and tell myself if I don't meet any chicks its not the end of the world. This method always fails miserably everytime. After about three hours of standing in the same fuckin place it gets to old. So I'm not really what you would call shy but I sure as shit am not going to approach women that don't give me a glance for obvious reasons {there with boyfriend, friends, lesbians}. Now heres the real kicker, I notice the fat ugly motherfuckers with some of the hottest women in the place. This bewilders me everytime. I'm not the next Brad Pitt but I'm sure as hell not ugly either. This is what gets me. So I just console myself in the knowledge that this is just a bad night and reinforces why I detest the opposite sex so much . But problem is, it happens every fucking night. Any advice?

LOL bro me and my boys always say the same thing. Its always the ugliest bro with a hot girl. When it comes down to it, there is only one reason why we suspect this ugly guy/hot girl combo works..... ugly guy = $$$$$$$
 
just give it a shot and go talk to them, what happens if they say no?? big deal move on then


ya ugly dudes i have seen pullin hella tail too
 
ive noticed the same thing and the same shit happens to me as well. its probably a money thing but also the fact that they know those types of guys will worship them and do whatever they please bc they might not get another chance with a hottie.
 
best way to pick up a chick in most cities now is just tell them you have an endless supply of coke....they'll come right over
 
DRRman said:
best way to pick up a chick in most cities now is just tell them you have an endless supply of coke....they'll come right over


DING DING DING!
 
if you shine in three departments you can have any chick:
1. physically
2. emotionally (confindence initally)
3. finacially
 
Man you doin it ALLLLLL wrong. See you gotta play them bro, make them think you could care less and gots no interest cause you above all that. THEN my man they come to YOU. Work like a damn charm and you gonna get some ass that night.
 
machaveli said:
if you shine in three departments you can have any chick:



1. physically (the actual supply of coke)
2. emotionally (confindence initally) (Her addiction to coke)
3. finacially
(the money for more coke)



ASin the famous coca cola commercial

"WHAT!!!! YOU BROUGHT ME OUT HERE AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY COKE????"
 
DRRman said:
best way to pick up a chick in most cities now is just tell them you have an endless supply of coke....they'll come right over


Yep.


IJ26 said:
thats very true. too bad I dont have that


I don't think you properly read his reply. accent the part "just tell them you have"

Ergo, you don't actually have to be in possession of said "endless supply".
 
To cope with a possible rejection, simply consume a small/moderate amount of alcoholic beverages. Then proceed onto the first victim :D If she just rejects you, HER LOSS... next! Keep going. Even if you are one ugly mother fucker, you would at least have a 1 in 10 chance. That 1 is going to lick you upside down.
 
Just go and have a good time. Try dancing. Your probably not half as bad as you think you are. If you are... dance next to somebody who is worse.

The ladies are interested in someone who is having a good time and enjoying himself. On the other hand If your looking for a crackwhore... by all means go with the other advice... :)
 
AssClown said:
Just go and have a good time. Try dancing. Your probably not half as bad as you think you are. If you are... dance next to somebody who is worse.

The ladies are interested in someone who is having a good time and enjoying himself.

This is very good advice! Whenever i go out to a club/bar/whatever and i dont give a shit about women that night becuase i am with friends, i ALWAYS get glances......a few weeks ago there was this girl that was STARING at me for 25 minutes........but that only made me loose confidence and wimp out tho.....:mad:

bro, all it takes is getting rejected a few times and finding out how to approach them......its weird how we dont take the risk most of the time tho.....i always tell myself im gonna actually hit on a few women to try to improve my approach and the most that happens is i talk to 1 girl, but im young and just gettin started but i can say that we can all relate to you

btw, malls adn libraries are a lot easier to try and improve your "game".........altho i dont despise pickin up at clubs (yet), the girls there are being attacked by so many guys that i find it easier to approach someone at a semi-social place like at the mall
 
you would be surprised how well a "hi, how are you" and a smile works

any guy who comes up to me like "mr. studly man" or even worse, touches me out of no where...surefire sign for me to run, as far as possible.
 
hamstershaver said:
wow you stand in the same place for 3 hrs and dont get a hook up i cant imagine why.

for real, why not just hide in the corner perhaps you'll have more luck that way.

go in with your friends, have some fun, grow some balls and if all still fails, get drunk and mack on some ladies in there

obviusly they will think you are a boring-not interesting person if you just stand there by yourself
 
DinWeasel said:
Man you doin it ALLLLLL wrong. See you gotta play them bro, make them think you could care less and gots no interest cause you above all that. THEN my man they come to YOU. Work like a damn charm and you gonna get some ass that night.

lol, that's the worst way to do things unless you're better looking than 99% of the other men
 
man i forgot about this thread......

and pigeon-rat is right, that type of shit never works...even girls who have come up to me have usually lost interest real quick if you act like u dont need em cuz women are just as (if not more) insecure that guys. plus they get hit on all the time, they dont need to wait for ur ass unless they think you are the finest thing to walk the earth
 
You sound like a young dude, so don't stress out. Give your self a while and you'll start to figure out what women like and respond to. In no time you'll reach a point where you really enjoy meeting new girls and it's not scary and awkward at all.
 
Originally posted by vinylgroover
i dance and dance well......that usually get's the chicks lubed up.
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We have a winner. If you take only one thing from this thread, take this...

then tell them that you have a little blow! Deal Done!
 
I score in clubs. But I'm anything but a ladies man. And when I say score i mean securing there phone number and NOT having a one night stand.

I'm a loser with chicks in that I can't talk to them in cold calling fashion in places like malls, coffee shops, etc. I can't even say "hi" to them and I don't. I can't because rejection is something that kills me and makes me feel sub-human.

I'm a freak in that.......

I can talk to a plethora of women in clubs. And I dig dancing. I dance all night. I prefer clubs that are old school.....we have a couple here in San Diego..........in that they are the type where you can go up to a woman sitting at a table and ask her to dance. That manner of presentation is rare nowadays, thanks to the techo-music fucks......who changed that form of social behavior around in the early 90's or so. Nowadays fuckers just wander out onto the dance floor by their own silly ass self and then sashay over to a chick.....and who knows if she really wants you in her airspace?
That style is too fucking ambiguous!

I like asking them to dance, for if they consent then you know they at least respect your appearance. Ah yes, your wondering what happens when they say no. What about the rejection factor that stymies my ability to pick-up women elsewhere?

For some strange reason it doesn't faze me in clubs cause I'm always a little buzzed (I said a little, not alot!) and the loud music and overall energy of the club magically kills the debilitating characteristics of rejection that try to penetrate me.

In the real world I've got no game when it comes to approaching women. In clubs I am like a hammer in that I'll dance with 20-30 different women a night. It's my own little phenomenoh that I got going on. And though it's anything but well rounded, I'm grateful for what I have. Maybe you need to find your comfort zone like I did.

For your information I'm probrably a 7 in the looks department. And I like techno music but not the fact that, that crowd made it alot harder to meet women as compared to in the mid-90's for the reason mentioned earlier. Thank god there are a handful of clubs out there where it's still cool to go up to a womans table and ask her to dance. Not many exist anymore!
 
Simple formula for scoring in clubs:

1-Go up to her table and ask her to dance.

2-Then dance. When the song is over say thanks for dancing or walk her back to her table and say it. And then turnaround and make yourself scarce.

3-(Very big step here!) Wait about 10 minutes and go back and ask her to dance again. If she says yes then you gotta groove going!

4-(The biggest step of all, right here, right now!) Dance up a few songs, and run her on the floor till she's exhausted like a limp rag doll. Even more important is to make sure she sweats enough perspiration to fill a 50 gallon fish tank. And then....ask her if she'd like to step outside for a moment to get some fresh air. If she says yes, that groove you had going just widened into a Panama-like canal.

5-Once outside you'll be able to easily figure out if theres a mutual attraction, after conversing awhile of course. Then get a phone number.


The beauty of this formula is that you didn't spend a dime on drinks for her.......not yet anyway. Also, if she agrees to step 3 and 4 then she has just given you a big, fat, though silent, positive affirmation in the looks and style department.

It won't be until step five before she figures out wether you're a classic dipshit or a cut diamond.
 
MFMan said:
Everytime I go into a bar I walk out in utter disgust. Problem is I go into the places with the intention of having a good time and possibly meeting someone at the very least. I always start to pyche myself up before I go in and tell myself if I don't meet any chicks its not the end of the world. This method always fails ................the knowledge that this is just a bad night and reinforces why I detest the opposite sex so much . But problem is, it happens every fucking night. Any advice?

advice?? two words that have really helped me in the last 4 monhts:

David Deangelo

hint: www.doubleyourdating.com, (try downloading some audio tapes of his off of kazaa, winmx, or emule)
 
PIGEON-RAT said:
lol, that's the worst way to do things unless you're better looking than 99% of the other men

I am so lazy I just wait for girls to look at me (or come up to me) but I guess im just lucky that im pretty as a mofo! LOL I find that Just having a good time and not paying attention works best, just pop your head out and look around for some eye contact every once in a while, if you make contact more then once you have a great chance of getting the number if you approach her and have any kind of talking skills. I admit oi use the coke thing a lot tho (works great with dancers) Coke, Great looks, Great clothes, ripped, = all the top quality pussy you can put up with brother.
 
Whatever women tell you in turns of what to do -- throw it out the window. I've been to dyke clubs. They're even more vulgar and worse at picking up each other then us guys.

Here's what always work in order of importance:

MONEY$! -- I have to see a rich guy complain he never gets chicks
ASSHOLE! -- Every guy who treats women like shit, cheats, has his women always stay with him and "loves" him and swears it's her, not him and rarely leave him.
ACT LIKE YOU DON'T CARE! -- Quickest way to get a chick to stay with you, is act like you're not interested, and she doesn't matter. Women HATE to feel unwanted. You'll have her wrapped around your finger in a heartbeat.

WORST WAY to guarantee you'll be stuck in the "friend" zone forever:

BE NICE
BE MR FUNNY GUY
ACT DESPERATE
GET FAT
GROW LONG HAIR
HANG OUT WITH OTHER GUYS JUST LIKE YOU

Being nice, and sweet is no challenge for a girl. She'll use you as the guy who'll buy her drinks all night. Her "brother". aww. The hotter the chick, the less chance the "nice" guy thing will get you even past first base.

The uglier the chick -- the more they like the nice, uglier, fatter, sweeter guy. Their standards are way lower remember.

Just go into a club and analyze the guys there with hot gfs. Watch them. It ain't fucking rocket science. You'll quickly figure it out why they got women and you don't. Trust me, these guys aren't poster boys for the toastmasters club.
 
Razorguns said:
Whatever women tell you in turns of what to do -- throw it out the window. I've been to dyke clubs. They're even more vulgar and worse at picking up each other then us guys.

Here's what always work in order of importance:

MONEY$! -- I have to see a rich guy complain he never gets chicks
ASSHOLE! -- Every guy who treats women like shit, cheats, has his women always stay with him and "loves" him and swears it's her, not him and rarely leave him.
ACT LIKE YOU DON'T CARE! -- Quickest way to get a chick to stay with you, is act like you're not interested, and she doesn't matter. Women HATE to feel unwanted. You'll have her wrapped around your finger in a heartbeat.

WORST WAY to guarantee you'll be stuck in the "friend" zone forever:

BE NICE
BE MR FUNNY GUY
ACT DESPERATE
GET FAT
GROW LONG HAIR
HANG OUT WITH OTHER GUYS JUST LIKE YOU

Being nice, and sweet is no challenge for a girl. She'll use you as the guy who'll buy her drinks all night. Her "brother". aww. The hotter the chick, the less chance the "nice" guy thing will get you even past first base.

The uglier the chick -- the more they like the nice, uglier, fatter, sweeter guy. Their standards are way lower remember.

Just go into a club and analyze the guys there with hot gfs. Watch them. It ain't fucking rocket science. You'll quickly figure it out why they got women and you don't. Trust me, these guys aren't poster boys for the toastmasters club.

Haha, the ASSHOLE! thats me
 
Razorguns said:
Just go into a club and analyze the guys there with hot gfs. Watch them. It ain't fucking rocket science. You'll quickly figure it out why they got women and you don't. Trust me, these guys aren't poster boys for the toastmasters club.


true for the most part, but I see lots of fat dudes with hot chicks. Most of em don't look like they're rolling in it either.
 
hardrock said:
true for the most part, but I see lots of fat dudes with hot chicks. Most of em don't look like they're rolling in it either.

Prob. because the hot chicks own those fat dudes and know they will never treat them bad... Lame asses.
 
Ewww... no way I would date a fat guy, even if he has alot of money. If you are cute, dress nice, take care of yourself and can dance really good... and you have to be really sweet, you MIGHT get my number at a club.
 
MFMan said:
Everytime I go into a bar I walk out in utter disgust. Problem is I go into the places with the intention of having a good time and possibly meeting someone at the very least. I always start to pyche myself up before I go in and tell myself if I don't meet any chicks its not the end of the world. This method always fails miserably everytime. After about three hours of standing in the same fuckin place it gets to old. So I'm not really what you would call shy but I sure as shit am not going to approach women that don't give me a glance for obvious reasons {there with boyfriend, friends, lesbians}. Now heres the real kicker, I notice the fat ugly motherfuckers with some of the hottest women in the place. This bewilders me everytime. I'm not the next Brad Pitt but I'm sure as hell not ugly either. This is what gets me. So I just console myself in the knowledge that this is just a bad night and reinforces why I detest the opposite sex so much . But problem is, it happens every fucking night. Any advice?


well for what my input is worth... here it is. i'm relatively young too and still learning the ropes since i'm just getting into the club type scene so i'm in the same boat as your. however i have picked up on a few things


i go out looking to have a good time with my bros, if i get a # BONUS....... take this attitude with you when you go out and the chicks will pick up on it (goes back to the confidence thing plus ur not one of the 10 million fuck nuts sliming their way thru the crowd rubbing on every chick you see.... yes they will appreciate that). for a while i did the same shit standing in one place for extended periods of time. girls will approach but not nearly often enough. u gotta can that shit. at least walk around through the crowd and stuff.

area5150 has the right idea. you gotta get eyecontact and or a smile from them first before going up to them. asking them if theyd like to dance is great too, just like he said. if you dont youll get a weird look and a friend of hers will run to her rescue and pull her away. if a cute girl is trying to squeeze her way up to the crowded bar to order, and the bartender comes to you first, point to her and let her order before you. little things to break the ice bro. be a gentleman, the kind of chicks u wanna meet will respond to that... forget the others


- dress and groom yourself nicely depending on the types of clubs you go to NO ABERCROMBIE or other trendy college type stuff. SMELL NICE TOO! key is to stand out

- never try to seperate a chick from her other single friends, she wont leave them. period. if your gonna try it, make sure u have enough guy friends with you who can cover her friends

-if u see a chick you like and shes not noticing you, make sure she notices you noticing her. check her reaction and assess the situation from there

- talk to her while your dancing. make her laugh. MAKE FUNNY COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OTHER CLOWN CLOSE BY IF YOUR WORRIED ABOUT YOUR DANCING SKILLS.

hell, make fun of yourself and say u dont dance much, ask her for help/pointers ;)

if you dance with a chick and you think theres a mutual interest after the song, thank her and say it sure is hot in here and ask her if she wants to go get a water with you or somethng. this will give you some alone time to talk and will help you come off as a human being not some asshole trying to hookup in the middle of the dance floor. i'd stay away from alchololic drinks unless she has one in hand and is ready for another. (more time than not she'll opt for the h20) and think its a sweet gesture instead of u trying to get her lit so u can get in her pants

if you get the eye contact/smile we talked about earlier, make sure you acknowledge her with a smile or something. dont be a scared little boy who turns his head right away

get the smile, make sure she see's you acknowle her. turn your back to order a drink or have a convo with someone, ie dont be eager and run right up to her. wait 10-15 minutes and get into her zone again. if you see her looking and making eye contact again your in her head and shes wondering where you went before. repeat this if you think u can get away with it but dont ruin ur chance. YOUR IN. go introduce youself ask her "if she'd like to dance"

thats all i can think of right now... lol. good luck!

oh, and dont be totally blitzed. that doesnt help the cause :)

also, choose your girls wisely. chicks up ontop of the bar or on the stripper pole arent there to meet anyone
 
Just little tip about dancing.....Don't put your hands all over them while your dancing with 'em. I've had several girls tell me straight up that they thought i was awesome that i could dance without being all up on 'em.....If they want to be gropped (sp?), they will grab your hand and put it in "places" :)


"i go out looking to have a good time with my bros, if i get a # BONUS....... take this attitude with you when you go out and the chicks will pick up on it (goes back to the confidence thing plus ur not one of the 10 million fuck nuts sliming their way thru the crowd rubbing on every chick you see.... yes they will appreciate that). for a while i did the same shit standing in one place for extended periods of time. girls will approach but not nearly often enough. u gotta can that shit. at least walk around through the crowd and stuff."

this is probably the best advice i've seen throughout the thread...
 
DRRman said:
best way to pick up a chick in most cities now is just tell them you have an endless supply of coke....they'll come right over

Damn I like that thought...

I got meeting girls down to a science!!

You need to approach meeting girls like it is a mathamatical equation.

Chance of getting laid = exposer time x distance traveled....

You need to make the most of the building your in.. Never stay in same spot..
Me and my freinds spend most of the time either continuesouly walking aroudn the club or dancing in the spots were the hot girls are...

The more you walk around the better your chance to have a girl give you a smile, pinch your ass, or sqeeuze your big arms..
The more you walk around the more exposer you have to more girls. ( Sitting in same spot only lets you see maybe 30% of all the girls in the club. (Girls dont travel around the club much..)

Dont waste time on 1 girl for to long.. If I see a girl I really like I hang around long enough to get her attention. If she notices me and doesnt give me a nice smile or wave to come over then I leave and move on...

Finaly, maybe the most important thing is to stay late.. Thats when most of the girls are drunk and all you need to do is give them a smile and they will dance with you...

Pass what i have taught you on to your kids and you get to hook up with your sons girlfriends friends......or atleast be an old pervert and watch them in there bikini's in your pool...(hahaha)
 
based on much experience, guys don't pick girls up. girls pick guys up by letting guys pick them up. got it?

or phrased anotyher way, a guy chases a girl until the girl catches him.

if you're in any way good looking, &/or built, &/or well-dressed whatever there will be girls whose eye you catch, and they'll let you know they're at least willing to give you an opprrtunity to hit on them by standing/dancing in front of you, catching your eye more than once or twice, etc.

just pick from these.

if you aren't goodlooking, built or well dressed, either flash alot of cash, or stay home and make like the guy in the Billy Joel song (capt jack).


-

p.s. Or you can make a sympathy play:

"you wanna dance, or should I just go fuck myself?" :worried:

-
 
I agree that standing around isn't going to get you anywhere but drunk by yourself... The best time to get a girl is when you're really not trying... They can sense when a guy is desperate and that turns them off.. If you're w/ your boys and having a good time smiling and laughing then they think you are fun and want to get closer... If you're by yourself, which I would never do, then just talk to as many girls as possible and eventually one will bite...

As the old saying goes "If you throw enough shit against the wall, some of its bound to stick"
 
This might not work for you, but when I go clubbing at home my little sis usually wants to come along. She's pretty good looking and I like looking out for her. When I'm out with her I ALWAYS get more looks from women. I think the chicks look at her and notice she's pretty hot, so they immediatly think there must be something going on with me since such a hot chick is hanging out with me.
 
keep moving, keep chatting, look good, smell good, use bodylanguage, smile, and have fun that doesnt depend on pulling women, and let it show

i have a good time. people around me have a good time. be fun, look nice, and actually make a move

you just gotta figure out how to appeal to people. its not hard. when you get in a tight spot just think really hard and say...what would fyxgel do?

then do the opposite lol
 
Its all about confidence with girls having the balls to approach them its very simple. If you like what you see approach her, girls like confidence its sexy.
 
damn ppl, stop overanalysing it, it's NOT a science!!!

don't go out to a club to find a girlfriend, it's not gonna happen...

say hello and ask if you can buy them a drink, then converse lightly, if she's into you you'll know it in 5 mins...

into you signs: smiling, eye contact, talks back, touches you lightly

not into you: looks around, not smiling or forced smiling, short close ended answers

if you're on the dancefloor and you think some girl digs you (dances close to you) hold out your hand, if she grabs it go for it, twirl her around (sounds cheesy but it's not, works in any club\music type)

that's the hard part, the openers, you may not take them home, but nothing in life's a guarantee

the above probably sounds obvious to those of you with experience, but there are probably some of you out there who feel awkward about it

oh, and dress nice, and not too much after shave
 
nikolai_bolkov said:
that's the hard part, the openers...

oh, and dress nice, and not too much after shave

Great post! And thanks for the tip about pulling the girl towards you
on the dancefloor if she takes your outstretched hand.
Must remember that.

By the way, I've been roaming the web for tips on cool chat openers
and talking to girls and this is the coolest site I've found.

http://www.guytalkstogirl.com
 
ColdCut said:
soounds sorta lame but, does anyone have any links/books/anything that has great advice?

Darling,

Definitely try one of George's e-guides: Elite Player's Guide to Getting Laid or The Ugly Man's Guide To Picking Up Beautiful Women. The names tickle me, but I have seen the content and there are actually very good strategies in them -- for boys and girls!

I am sure you are lovely, though, Darling, not ugly. It was just a suggestions to try to help out.
 
Dress nice, and don't be afraid to approach a girl. I read a few people say the ugly guy gets the girl cause of money that true in most cases but its all about what you say and how you come across as a person, you gotta have mad game when it come to talking to girls does not matter how you look. My buddy is 50lbs over weight and pulls the best looking girls in the club all the time he has mad game and an excellent bullshiter :)
 
lines don't work, don't comment on a girls ass, her tits.. say she has a nice smile or eyes.. maybe then she will talk 2 u. i always make a point not to give guys in clubs time of day.. most only want one thing.. and they ain't gettin it.

sometimes girls are stuck up bitches because they have been bothered way too much
 
I dont know, even after getting a phone number or a kiss from a girl in a club, I still always end up feeling down, lonely and depressed when going home..Thats the problem with these clubs, guys go in thinking theyll find a GF and they end up dissapointed...The girls in clubs are hard and cynical, and most the time even if u get a number or what else its just cause their fucking around being a ditz, being a cock tease. Which is done again next friday and they've long forgoten about you. Ive seen guys get just torn apart by some of the women in clubs, girls just being outright bitches for no reason ...If your looking for a warm body in your bed who will love you and care for you its probably not gonna happen with a club girl

And the coke thing is a bad idea...who wants a cokehead whore...
 
I found that when I'm clubbing, have a few drinks.. Have a good time..

Then when you find a girl you like, just go up to hear ... I did this several times and it has worked.. When she is walking, run your hand down her arm, pull her in towards you.. say hey beautiful ...
 
DRRman said:
best way to pick up a chick in most cities now is just tell them you have an endless supply of coke....they'll come right over

That used to be the case back in the 80's and 90's but I have noticed that lately its a turn off for women. Use to with coke I could pull all the ladies I wanted. Now I cant beg for one when I got it? I find one thats on to me and then I mention coke and they run! I live in Dallas and still frequently visit my small Oklahoma home town and neither place does it work!
 
im sorry, but the coke comment is vERY true....use it, I am telling you that girls in nyc, la, etc love coke....dont say that shiite in amish country tho :p
 
TraxZBT said:
LOL bro me and my boys always say the same thing. Its always the ugliest bro with a hot girl. When it comes down to it, there is only one reason why we suspect this ugly guy/hot girl combo works..... ugly guy = $$$$$$$

No...the ugly guy has a much better mentality that you. He actually APPROACHES and his verbal game is probably TIGHT. seriously, if you want to know how he gets women, go up to him and ask! im serious, some of the least desirable lookin people are some of the smartest, warmest, compassionate, keen, smoothest people ever...they stir up emotions and make everyone they talk to feel good.
 
well I'm lookin at you reaaaal close CC.... you look like good.... erm... material ;)

ok that was just a really bad pun....
 
i have to be attracted to someone first.. of course personality matters.. but there has to be an attraction
tinytank said:
where dose personality cum in to this ????????????? :confused:
 
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