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What is the Ideal for a first cycle? its Tea Time with OMEGA

OMEGA

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1:
Be above the age of 25
Why?
Because this is when a typical males Testosterone level starts to "stagnate"

2:
Before you cycle make sure you have used KEY supps to the maximum efficacy.
What does this mean?
It means using creatine; at least 10 grams a day for several "2-3 months cycles"
It means using at least 15 grams of glutamine a day everyday
It means having at least 2 protein shakes a day on top of a great solid food bases diet.


3:
Before you cycle make sure to have at least trained for 2-3 years at your peak natural level.
Not just lifting, you should be able to run 3 miles without any problems.
Only then can you truly assess what you are capable of, and only then will supra-physiological doses of Anabolic tap in to what your truly capable of genetically.

4:Now that your ready to do a first cycle, what should your first exotic stack be?
"Ta heck with you and your stacks".......Use Test only! ( either Enanthate or Sus)
You want to give your body every possible advantage when you cycle, and knowing how you respond to the KING hormone will teach you alot when you want to utilize more compounds later.
Test is always the base of any advanced cycle anyway to preserve sexual function .

MOST important ; Test only cycles are the easiest to recover from since its easier to balance the endocrine system, gauge sides, and also you don't have to fight other more suppressive metabolites lingering around when you near Post Cycle Therapy.


5:
How much should I use and how long?
Sorry the 200's wont do! ( total mgs)
Why use just barely more then HRT / TRT doses?
Use at least 350 mgs and up to 550 mgs a week.
Why?
Sorry gentlemen you need to be a double version of your self you get double the gains.
Use alot of Test but no so much where you get excessive E conversion and need to Eat AI's like pez, or to the point when you feel like a marshmallow.


6: How Long is my cycle and what about an Oral Kickstart?

Cycle should be no less then 7 weeks longs, and no more then 9
9 is ideal. You get huge gains but also can recover real well for P.C.T:rose:
Oral kick-start I hate to say DOES maximize this cycle.
Use Dbol, Tbol or Beastdrol the first 4-5 weeks.
Why? Orals are bioaviable immediately and unlock the abilities body to build muscle ASAP and you don't have to wait 4-5 weeks for the Test E or Sus to kick in to a level where you can start to feel like your actually on a cycle..
You feel ON from day one! and Gains start at week 1.


7: P.C.T is almost as important as the cycle.
or darn close.
You need a Serm, and an AI for sure, And also using some Pro T supps can help.
Start using them 10 days after Last Shot when T levels begin to fall from the injectables your doing.
Use them for 3-4 weeks to close the Feedback loop and force your body to kick-start its own endogenous production.
Also you wont get Fat in P/C/T since E will be covered.

PCT options?

Pct Options all starting 10 days After Last Shot and for 3-4 weeks:

1:
Exemestane 15-20 mgs a day + Clomid 50 mgs a day

2:
MrSupps Formastane + Un-leashed 2 pack + light 25 mg dose of Clomid ( clomid optional)
Unleashed Here--> http://www.needtobuildmuscle.net/st...rt-Supplements/Double-unleashed-Pack-p39.html
Forma--> https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Forma-Stanzol_26.aspx

3:
Primordial PCT:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/official-pct-2010-a-642825.html#post8715428


~FIN~:rose:
 
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Very nice info OMEGA should be a sticky .

So easy to read and understand mate very solid .


Brad.
 
wery good info about this!
Probably the best i have read in years.

I myself was dumb and started when i was only just above 20years old and have been on and of since then and is now in my mid 30´s(35years old to be exact)but as you wrote it would probably have been better for me and of course everyone else to wait untill they are closing in at the 25th bithday when the teste is taking a dive(not in all mayby,but usually the hormones is gowing away at 25).

Also very intresting to see how i should have done if i could have gone back in time and changed my debute in gear start!
Classic 1st steroid used was the akrahin dianabol5mg from russia and after a while the infar made sustanon250mg´s that was made for russia(pretty good gear back then)and did between 500-750mg´s/w with that for a few months and then stopped with out any pct cycle or anything at all.

probably only kept around 10kg from that cycle and dropped more than i gained,so it is pretty sad that internet was not around back then like it is today,if it had been this kind of help and info i would have waited for a couple of years and done it all in another way!

So what i really wanted to say is,I hope this really helps people out there that are thinking of using steroids at a young age(i seen 15year olds using orals and that is messed up!)i also have been seing alot of teenagers just using steroids with out training due to that they belive that they will get more agressive from eating large amounts of winstrol or dianabol tabs every weekend(also not true,probably just in their heads,i have never felt especially agressive when on long cycles no matter what i have used,mayby some little feelings on halotestin n methyltest but nothing much)

So this was a great text!

I just hope it reaches every one that should now this and hope they realize what is best for them selfs.
 
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7: P.C.T is almost as important as the cycle.
or darn close.
You need a Serm, and an AI for sure, And also using some Pro T supps can help.
Start using them 10 days after Last Shot when T levels begin to fall from the injectables your doing.
Use them for 3-4 weeks to close the Feedback loop and force your body to kickstart its own endogenous production.
Also you wont get Fat in P/C/T since E will be covered.


~FIN~:rose:

what are the most quality and up to date serms and AI that you guys like and use?
 
your #1 is probably the most broken rule. I wonder how many on here have juiced under 25... probably a majority.

I waited till 28 or 29 but I dunno if i would of done it if i saw my friends doing it. a friend of mine did it while in college cause all his frat buddies did it and he wanted to fit in. he ran no PCT, dont even know what it stands for
 
So what i really wanted to say is,I hope this really helps people out there that are thinking of using steroids at a young age(i seen 15year olds using orals and that is messed up!)i also have been seing alot of teenagers just using steroids with out training due to that they belive that they will get more agressive from eating large amounts of winstrol or dianabol tabs every weekend
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I am all for legalizing juice but i think whoever sells hormones to kids should be thrown in jail for a long time. not just cause of what they did but also cause they are either too ignorant to know what they did or don't care about the kids health and just want to make a buck.
 
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