What is the best quality mass cycle?

[Bravo75]

Can anyone give any input on what they feel is the best all round quality mass cycle? Im not talking about 10 pounds of bloat and fat with 5 pounds of muscle, all round quality?

 

[Smokescreen]

Tren bro! Tren will always add muscle with no bloat. Shit! Just a few months ago I gained almost 9 lbs of muscle while only consuming 100grams of carbs per day. Can you imagine how much more I would have gained consuming much larger amounts of carbs?!

 

[Apexx]

test/tren combo

 

[Smokescreen]

Test with Proviron and Adex / Winny / Tren / GH / low dose T3........haha!!!!

This combo is sure to give the MOOOOOOST muscle and NO fat or water gain. Easily gain around 15-20lbs of muscle in around 8-10 weeks.

 

[Dial_tone]

Tren/prop/EQ.

 

[Mavy]

test/deca/dbol

 

[NoWork]

test/deca/dbol

I agree, and w/ a good diet to boot

 

[halfaclue]

test/deca/dbol

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

 

[oubeta]

Fina and a little test and a clean diet is hard to beat

 

[bigmk]

test/deca/dbol

Strong agreement with this! Im on 100mg Tren now for nine weeks and it doesnt even come close to a simple deca cycle. I am stronger, but Deca is the King of AS !

 

[Bravo75]

my problem is that tren effects my hairline signifigantly!!!

any advice on this?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

test/deca/primo
water can be controlled through diet and other ancillaries

 

[Tryn2]

I have tried both and am leaning toward tren not being the mass builder it is made out to be.... I think deca wins hands down....

 

[flex2win]

test/deca/dbol

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! Hands down, best builder!!!

 

[jeb0177]

test deca and dbol 4 me.

 

[hammertime30]

test/deca/dbol

Probably, but I hate deca....replace deca with tren, then I'm kool!!!

 

[strongsmartsexy]

test/deca/dbol

The holy trinity cycle. With a sold diet this cycle ROCKS.

 

[Bravo75]

how about test/eq/dbol?

 

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Tren bro! Tren will always add muscle with no bloat. Shit! Just a few months ago I gained almost 9 lbs of muscle while only consuming 100grams of carbs per day. Can you imagine how much more I would have gained consuming much larger amounts of carbs?!

Tren alone, even with proper pct, didn't do a whole lot for me. I gained only 5 pounds of lean muscle. Though they were lbs of lean muscle, not fat. I guess it depends on what your specific opinions are. Now tren and test prop, that would be very intesting.

 

[Bravo75]

bump

 

[THEEGAME2544]

For top quality nothing beats Test/Tren.

 

[Bravo75]

does anybody else suffer hairloss from tren?

 

[BigAndy69]

For me it's got to be either:

Test Prop/NPP/winny

Test Prop/NPP/Dbol

 

[LVTitan]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! Hands down, best builder!!!

thats what im on now....10bls in first two weeks, no bloat yet at all.

test/deca/dbol
1-12 test 500mg
2-11 deca 300mg
1-4 dbol 40mg/day
week 12 dbol 30mg/day
then pct with hcg/clomid

 

[LVTitan]

For me it's got to be either:

Test Prop/NPP/winny

Test Prop/NPP/Dbol

why such a fan of short esters ?

 

[Themachine01]

why such a fan of short esters ?

I lost some muscle while working an overnight shift the past 4 months and was on no anabolics the whole time, probably the lightest Ive been in years. I just got off of thenight shift and started my new cycle to put back on the muscle I lost and then some. Heres what I went with, nice and simple:

wks 1-14 test enanthate @ 750/wk
wks 1-12 deca @ 600/wk
Hcg throughout
wks 10-16 Winny @ 50mg/day

 

[Bravo75]

I lost some muscle while working an overnight shift the past 4 months and was on no anabolics the whole time, probably the lightest Ive been in years. I just got off of thenight shift and started my new cycle to put back on the muscle I lost and then some. Heres what I went with, nice and simple:

wks 1-14 test enanthate @ 750/wk
wks 1-12 deca @ 600/wk
Hcg throughout
wks 10-16 Winny @ 50mg/day

How was your diet on this cycle? Did you eat clean and how many calories? How about cardio?

 

[BionicBC]

thats what im on now....10bls in first two weeks, no bloat yet at all.

test/deca/dbol
1-12 test 500mg
2-11 deca 300mg
1-4 dbol 40mg/day
week 12 dbol 30mg/day
then pct with hcg/clomid

My cycle is similar, but with an added boost-check it out:
Week 1-4--DBol @ 30mg ed

Week 1-11--Deca @ 400mg/week

Week 1-12--Test Enan @ 500mg/week

Week 9-14--Tren @ 100mg eod

Week 13-14 Prop @ 100mg eod

Mwahahahaha!!!!
Bionic

 

[Themachine01]

My cycle is similar, but with an added boost-check it out:
Week 1-4--DBol @ 30mg ed

Week 1-11--Deca @ 400mg/week

Week 1-12--Test Enan @ 500mg/week

Week 9-14--Tren @ 100mg eod

Week 13-14 Prop @ 100mg eod

Mwahahahaha!!!!
Bionic

I thought about adding the tren at the end but decided I will hold off and save it for my cuttin cycle that will follow. But I like that cycle of yours.

 

[BigAndy69]

why such a fan of short esters ?

It just fits the way I cycle.

 

[Bravo75]

what is NPP?

 

[SpencerJ]

what is NPP?

NPP is Nandrolone phenyl prop. Its a faster acting version of Deca

 

[v shape]

Test prop/ eq/ anavar- insane results and minimal sides

 

[majutsu]

test/deca/dbol

still the king. For deca you can substitute tren, eq, or primo in that order. As you slide further down that scale, you can substitute anadrol for dbol, as the sides would be less noticeable.

 

[Bravo75]

Test prop/ eq/ anavar- insane results and minimal sides

does anybody agree with this?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

tren/winstrol

 

[Lowest]

Hell yes, tren/winstrol or tren/dbol. Out of the gear I've used, those two made me the hardest and strongest I've ever been. I wasn't the heaviest, but it was all quality( ran adex with the dbol), and I didn't lose hardly anything. For just all-around size and strength, plain old higher-dose test is my king.