what is racism - a long read but should open some eyes

[milo hobgoblin]

2Thick

2Thick.. While I DONT think that was the point of the essay and tI think you are mistaken for extracting a single paragraph to try and make his entire point..

I do agree with you that cultural influences have lead to the current situation.

But that DOESNT excuse their behavior. And last I checked... The LARGE majority of the slums are black... white people do not rule anything there. So thats a relly bad explanation for why they have problems now.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Yeah I'll concede you that as I can see where that could be the view of alot of Natives.

This goverment has don't a ton of fucked up shit,I've even been involved in some of it.What do you want? Your land back?

The US Govt put Japanese citizens in fucking consentration camps,really fucked.How long does this shit go on?

There's not one fucking white person alive today that owned a black slave,or was responsible for the massacre of the Indians.

The Catholic church has killed a hell of alot more people than the US govt. has through history and in the name of God no less but people still go to mass every Sunday.

You,(And I mean this generically not specifically you,Super Nav), are responsible for your life and your actions,no one else.

Mad

 

[2Thick]

Re: 2Thick

2Thick.. While I DONT think that was the point of the essay and tI think you are mistaken for extracting a single paragraph to try and make his entire point..

Get ready to bite your tongue because here is a direct quote from that article that shows you exactly the point of the essay...

"A peculiarly American meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been declared to be equally talented and hard- working, and anyone who questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.
"

 

[casavant]

Interesting read. I agreed with a lot of it, although I think that blacks are just in a bad cycle right now and not genetically inferior. It's nurture, not nature.

Anyway, like Citrus said, there are assholes everywhere.

 

[2Thick]

Re: 2Thick

But that DOESNT excuse their behavior. And last I checked... The LARGE majority of the slums are black... white people do not rule anything there. So thats a relly bad explanation for why they have problems now.

The largest majority of poor people living in impoervished envirnoments are white. There is a higher (per capita) participation of black people incarcerated but that is a whole other discussion.

Part of the problem is single parent households. Lack of parental supervision is the main culprit. For example, if free daycare were available to single mothers then they could get off welfare and get a job without worrying about their child turning into a gangbanger.

 

[Mad4Iron]

I don't think we hijacked or are going to but I think we're making a fine effort

Correct me if I'm wrong.
There was not "One nation" but many different tribes.They seemed to do a pretty damn good job of kicking the shit out of each other.I vaguelly remember The Sioux(Meaning snake?) were widely feared and were terrible enemies.

I also think that diseases that the Europeans brought here killed alot more Indians than the whites did.

Do you remember the details of a Officer sending blankets to a reservation infected with smallpox? I remember reading about it but forget the details(I got tons of crap in my head,just can't remember it all at once).

Mad

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

I POSTED THAT ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO. All these Houndog wannabees are getting annoying.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Touche,excellent.

Tell me where I can edgumacate myself if you would.

Only thing I hate worse than hypocrasy is when it comes out of my mouth.

Mad

 

[Hengst]

Re: Re: 2Thick

Part of the problem is single parent households. Lack of parental supervision is the main culprit. For example, if free daycare were available to single mothers then they could get off welfare and get a job without worrying about their child turning into a gangbanger.

Perhaps if the mother didn't have a child out of wedlock, but rather waited, got an education, a job, MARRIED..... then had a child , then the government would not have to pay to raise it. And the mother would never be on welfare to start with.

Personal responsibility. DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN YOU CANNOT SUPPORT.

 

[WODIN]

Re: Re: Re: 2Thick

Perhaps if the mother didn't have a child out of wedlock, but rather waited, got an education, a job, MARRIED..... then had a child , then the government would not have to pay to raise it. And the mother would never be on welfare to start with.

Personal responsibility. DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN YOU CANNOT SUPPORT.

Well that applies to all people and it is just common sense which is in short supply these days for certain. There are just as many poor white people procreating out of wedlock, etc, on welfare as there are black people doing the same thing.

I use to argue with racist bigots all the time about their fucked up circular logic and reasoning. I have come to the conclusion that if you are a fucked up idiot, you are going to stay a fucked up idiot.

Do some research and reading into the Jim Crow Laws, the Black codes and regulations that the southern states imposed right after the civil war.

That was in 1865 - The Jim crow laws were around till the mid 1960's for almost a hundred years.

The black people in America have only really been truley free since the civil rights movement of the 1960's which lead to the repeal of Jim Crow statues and regulations.

That was just 40 or so years ago. Basically my life time and Ttlkpgs.

And all this shit reallys started with the fucked up Supreme Court justices ruling seperate but equal and left the "regulation" of said rulings up to the people.

Fucking idiots.