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What does pro wrestling teach children?

frorider6

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I really don't watch the WWF. Maybe during the commercial breaks from another show. I also don't have any kids. So take this however you want.

From what I've seen of the WWF, I don't think I ever want my kid to watch it. It seems to teach that violence is the only way to handle ANY problem and revenge is common. Even the "good guys" do it. Now, the same arguements have always been made about cartoons. But cartoons, by their nature, are not real. The WWF blurs that line, especially to a young child.

Another major problem I have with the WWF is how alcohol is portrayed. Last night (and many times before) I see Steve Austin in the ring with a can of Budweiser, chugging it, pouring it over his defeated competitor, and spraying it over the audience. What message does this send to kids. Maybe it's no worse than seeing daddy come back from the vending booth with his max amount of beer every 30 minutes. Personally, I don't think any person with a child at ANY sports event should be drinking. I believe the message is that you can't have fun without alcohol.

If this doesn't make sense, oh well. It's early.

Thoughts?
 
If ya don't like it - change the channel.

It has a parental rating just like everything else on TV. a 10 year old should not be watching it. Period. Parents need to responsibilize their actions.
 
that you can repeatedly stomp on another persons head, smash sledgehammers into their skull and smash them through tables and that they will be perfectly okthe next day


i dont thin its suitable for kids, as they will almost certainly try and replicate the moves. the dumb ass 'dont try this at home' stuff probably gets ignored

but yeah, i dont think it particularly sends a good image to children, and i personally dont think i would let my younger ones watch it if i had any

perhaps when they are old enough to realise the true competition in a bra and panties match :D
 
Y'know, I wasn't allowed to watch wrestling as a kid, and it was fairly tame then.

I think there's a rating of TV-14 on both WWF shows, and rightfully so. It's like anything else that's on TV: it falls to the parents to govern what their kids are watching.

WHAT?!?

I said, it falls to the parents to govern what their kids are watching.

:D
 
that you can repeatedly stomp on another persons head, smash sledgehammers into their skull and smash them through tables and that they will be perfectly okthe next day

Hmmm sounds like cartoons.
 
I agree that parents should take responsibility for what their kids watch. And I'm not saying it should be taken off the air. It's just an observation.

Also, if it has a TV-14 rating, why are they allowed to use beer as a prop?
 
wrestling grew up with those of us who watch it... in the 80's when BBV was a kid it was more cartoon like... now that BBV is a grown man it is mor adult like.
 
frorider6 said:
I agree that parents should take responsibility for what their kids watch. And I'm not saying it should be taken off the air. It's just an observation.

Also, if it has a TV-14 rating, why are they allowed to use beer as a prop?

Same reason why it was allowed on Cheers....It shows no illegal activity.
 
In the case of Tate, it teaches you that you can administer a substained beating of over 32 minutes to a 4 year old, rupture her kidneys and spleen, deliver blows hard enough to crack and fracture her skull, collapse a lung, crack a verterbrate and cause her to die during this "play". And you can blame it on copying what you see the wrestlers do on tv as your defense excuse when you are tried for murder.
 
i used to watch wwf as a kid because my brother made us... i wanted to watch loony tunes instead.

today's wrestling sucks imo *hears gasp from the vast numbers of wrestling lovers on elite*... the acting is worse than in porn and the chicks look like porn stars too for the most part.

i dunno.. part of me really hates it more because my ex-roommate blared it on the tv all the time and practically yelled along with the tv.

all in all though, i just don't understand the appeal.
 
Cornholio said:


Same reason why it was allowed on Cheers....It shows no illegal activity.

Good point. But wasn't Cheers only allowed (initially) to be shown after prime time viewing hours because it was set in a bar, showed drinking, and contained adult themes? Also, it wasn't marketed specifically at kids as the WWF is, which is shown in a very early timeslot.
 
when i was a kid wrestling was on at the same time as saturday morning cartoons...

and who can forget hulk hogan's rock 'n wrestle?
 
frorider6 said:


Good point. But wasn't Cheers only allowed (initially) to be shown after prime time viewing hours because it was set in a bar, showed drinking, and contained adult themes? Also, it wasn't marketed specifically at kids as the WWF is, which is shown in a very early timeslot.


Yes, but that was also b-4 ratings.

Most of the beer stuff you see is at the end of the show 10:00 on Thursdays and 11:00 on Mondays well past prime time. That's EST time BTW.
 
Cornholio said:



Yes, but that was also b-4 ratings.

Most of the beer stuff you see is at the end of the show 10:00 on Thursdays and 11:00 on Mondays well past prime time. That's EST time BTW.

touche

But what about the children that are at the actual events? Is it irresponsible for parents to take their children to these events?
 
frorider6 said:


touche

But what about the children that are at the actual events? Is it irresponsible for parents to take their children to these events?

It depends on whether or not the parents are reinforcing to their kids to not act out what they're seeing.
 
raising some good points here... personally i think it is the responsibility of the TV show to raise my child. I'm sick of doing it perosnally... yes that was sarcasm and yes this strikes a nerve... how is wrestling any worse than mtv?
 
TheProject said:


It depends on whether or not the parents are reinforcing to their kids to not act out what they're seeing.

How much influence do you think daddy has when he's had his 5th or 6th beer of the night, Austin starts chugging and spraying Bud, and good ole dad tells his son that it's not cool to drink?
 
saint808 said:
raising some good points here... personally i think it is the responsibility of the TV show to raise my child. I'm sick of doing it perosnally... yes that was sarcasm and yes this strikes a nerve... how is wrestling any worse than mtv?

Well, it's just something I saw last night and got me wondering.

And I agree. I want TV to raise my damn kids when I have them too.
 
frorider6 said:


How much influence do you think daddy has when he's had his 5th or 6th beer of the night, Austin starts chugging and spraying Bud, and good ole dad tells his son that it's not cool to drink?

way to steretype wrestling viewers
 
when i sit in my trailer, eating my mac and cheese and fishsticks and am drinking my natural light... i like a little violence, ok?
 
saint808 said:


way to steretype wrestling viewers

Hey, we do what we can to make a point, right? :D

Really though, I believe this also applies to any parent taking a child to ANY sporting event. I'm not saying alcohol should be banned from events. Simply that parents shouldn't drink while supervising a child.

As far as the WWF, I really don't have a problem with it. I just wanted a good discussion that didn't center around karma.
 
smallmovesal said:
what exactly is the appeal of wrestling though? it's terribly fake, so it's not the "realism" of it...

It's a soap opera for men, really. Sex, violence, and drama based on both.

Grown men swaggering around, mouthing off to their boss, flipping people off in public, all the while spouting off clever catch phrases. It's like an adolescent fantasy given form.

My .02...
 
see i watched wrestling way back... when it was not cool to do so, then it became cool to watch it and it changed it for the worse... now we have all these censorship people stereotyping the viewers, when the responsibility should be that of the parents... i mean there is a v chip right? They are evern trying to make it easier for lousy parents. My parents let me watch it. In person I am about as non violent as you can get.
 
frorider6 said:


How much influence do you think daddy has when he's had his 5th or 6th beer of the night, Austin starts chugging and spraying Bud, and good ole dad tells his son that it's not cool to drink?

Again, that parent is not being a good role model for his child. What's worse, that he's drunk in front of this kid or that he took him to wrestling? I'd rather a sober father take his son to a WWF show, and explain to him the difference between reality and fiction.
 
Kids learn nothing from wrestling. That's why they shouldn't watch it. Parents need to friggin take some interest in what their kids are watching.
 
The MN Bulk said:


Hmmm sounds like cartoons.


unfortunately yes :(

i'm not even sure they gave warnings to the oublic about unsuitability of wrestling for kids when they showed it here
 
I watched wrestling and cartoons as a kid and it never screwed me up either. But I do find the current phenomenon interesting.
 
saint808 said:
hey smalls how is wrestling any worse or less appealing than piss christ?

let me ask what the ultimate message is behind wrestling then you sillyass.

here's a summary of piss christ and its effect:

THE CRUCIFIX SUSPENDED in urine was one of the least seductive works, but not the
least lifeless. It may have been included purely because of the notoriety of its
mocking title and its provocative recorded act, nothing more. Other repressed
objects are suspended in fluid but are not attributed to urination, only the cross is
specified in this way. Divest the work of these clues and it, like many others, are
merely enlarged postcards. Throughout the whole show a viewer senses only
privilege given, access provided, money made available and active support
uncritically received.

An interesting aspect of this debate is the exclusion of the artist. The artist is of no
consequence. It is neither here nor there whether a particular artist produced it or
meant anything by it. The debate centres on some perceived loss of control in
society, in fact it has little to do with art and serves to conceal the radical challenge
of art to every strata of society (without the divisiveness of fashionable perversity).
It is interesting to note that the artist, though always present through the debate,
gave little away as long as the work was visible, and only after the privilege was
withdrawn did he speak passionately and pathetiquely.

What we have then is a unique and modern problem. On one hand you have many
moral minorities making a fuss over something where the media triggered the
alarm, whilst the art world (like government) remained immune to the public
concern. Recent developments in Australian politics have already informed us of
the long term effects of ignoring the fears of the people.

The explanation for the implacable position adopted by the art custodians is
simple paternalism. Secondly, the very power that 'offense' gives to a rejected art
object, and also the 'in house', invitational privilege bestowed on art lovers (though
to the art world, nudity and sacrilege are all 'old hat' and 'Ho Hum')

The church having failed to broadcast its own cultural mandate and having lost
trust in its own artistic voices has allowed private, corporate and public-funded
institutions to take complete control of support for the arts and provision for
exposure of all art forms. The church's time, money and energy - wasted on
drawing unparalleled attention to possibly the most spiritless secular product - has
never been spent with the same conviction for the purpose of bringing attention to
its own artistic protagonists.

The result is an art world today that thinks it is the sole supporter of the arts; the
one true champion of the lone artistic voice; the dedicated libertarian condemning
prejudice and iconoclasm; the city of refuge for the fleeing visionary ( the visionary
mercilessly hunted by the righteously vengeful) and finally the bold promoter of
those cast out by a Philistine public. Oh, if this were true, that the art world were the
veritable bosom of Abraham.



THE REALITY OF the art world's corruption lies hidden during its own 'festivals of the
favoured' and in its own articles of faith. It describes itself and its artists as ones
who are issue-based and tough-minded; as makers and displayers of serious
works of art, as challenging all assumptions, and finally and so patronisingly,
encouraging the viewer to think. This self-congratulation climaxes with the claim
that only the art world accepts challenge and can with confidence confront the new
and welcome the indispensable threat of art.

The fact is, that this is not true. The threat of art is only embraced when the target
of blame is external to itself. The contradiction lies in the claim that "What no one
has the right to do, is to stop Meburnians from seeing serious art" (T. Potts, The
Age 9/10/97). Here the peaceful opposers are seen as cultural police (though they
have little power), while the art world describes itself as the upholder and
preserver of artistic and public rights. In the light of the gallery director closing the
show after the second act of vandalism, thereby denying Victorian citizens that
very right to be offended or stimulated, one wonders what internal or external
forces would cause such retreat. It was certainly done against principle and in the
face of the artist's own ire. Yet, ironically, while moral corruption imported form the
Big Apple had been down played, the artist's own anger was quick to cite New
York bouncers as the security style we are in need of down here.

It is at these intense moments of conflicting interests that the darker reality in the
illusion of honoured career and real disgrace; of opening accolades and hasty
closure; of exclusion and inclusion, as continually carried out by every art
establishment, are clearly seen. It is indeed just as often the art institution that
denies the public the right to see serious art - the kind of art that the institution itself
and its curators cannot abide or handle, what they cannot come at writing about, or
in good conscience display or collect.

This is most clearly seen in the practice of taking off the walls contemporary works
of which the public approves. In selectively taking out of circulation, keeping things
unseen in storage, blocking acquisition or exhibition proposals, deacquistioning,
failing to contextualize or promote through visibility, patrons and consultants are
manipulated. Acquisition committees never get to approve or let alone see the
works that send a shudder through curatorial departments, whose artists keep
alive such a fear of art that it confronts even the very lovers of art with experiencing
in themselves, the same desire to persecute and exclude.

The moral outrage in regard to Serrano's work in this case may be justified, but
this also highlights once again both the tiny impact post modernism has had on
society and the remoteness of contemporary artistic concerns from the general
publics' understanding. The furore itself though should be questioned because it
too attempts to claim the moral high ground. For there is no guarantee that such
protestations and physical attacks would not be made on religious works, or the
works of Christian artists, who challenged through unorthodox means and images
the spiritual leanness at the very heart of the established church. A leanness that
seems energized only in protecting its own traditions and not its risen Lord.



WHAT WE SHOULD keep in mind, in all the artistic platitudes brought out in this
debate, is that an attack by the church may not be an assault on art, and the
defense by the art institution may not be a defense of art at all, but in both cases a
mere closing of ranks. The Church reinforcing its own undeveloped theology of the
body, and the art establishment reinforcing its own non-prescriptive and pluralistic
notions that on this occasion are about a single view of sexuality and the body, that
is protected and supported because it is perceived as representing the 'spirit of
the age'. The art, in this case Serrano's, is merely the vessel, the platter and the
pool of blood in which the severed, bleeding reputations and values of past
prophets and priests are horrifically and deliciously displayed.

The real tragedy in all the media hype and fuss, is that it gives the impression the
'Art' is responsible for the uproar. It isn't so, it is merely one artist's privileged and
puerile glee in the fall of a few of our remaining bodily taboos. I suspect it is truly
the lack of challenge in these works and the absence of any credible critique of
them which now continues to provide the room whereby the radical nature of art
and its contribution in our society have been sidelined. Other contemporary work
that would make both the public, the Church and the art world groan, tremble,
seethe with anger, or even remove their hats or shoes in respect, is now all the
more removed and relegated, whilst this vacuous and powerless art work,
picturing an all too familiar object, has been taken to with claw hammers by those
who claim to venerate the object represented.
 
frorider, read what i quoted from saint. he asked me a question about that... so i answered.

what crawled up your ass this morning?
 
smallmovesal said:
frorider, read what i quoted from saint. he asked me a question about that... so i answered.

what crawled up your ass this morning?

just seems like a lot of space to waste for 1 tiny reference. A link to the article would have worked just fine.
 
PISS CHRIST served the purpose that the artist made it out to be. Namely, for publicity. I know Serrano. He has been to a couple of parties my fiance has. I have his work of Stream (Ejaculation in Trajectory):

http://www.hightechhightouch.com/content/specimen/serrano/t_untitledx.jpg

Hanging in my media room. And contrary to what is going around, it is NOT a stream of milk being squirted. I think you all can figure out what it is.

What you have here was an artist that was not getting any recognition to the work he did because basically, photograhy is not really considered an 'art' form more than it is a documentary. What he did was create something very controversial and even then, that was not really very original. After the Mapplethorpe era of shock photography, there was not much new ground to cover. So basically Andres was still lost in the sea of unknown artists. What he did next was rather brilliant. He arranged for an acquaintance to ensure that his photo of Piss Christ was presented to the religious fanatic Jesse Helms would get his hands on it. What transpired then was the exact effect that Serrano wanted. His photograph (not his actual art work but a $5 eight by ten photograph) was torn up on the center stage floor by a very prominent voice in the newspaper. And viola.... instant publicity and recognition.

Later when told that Ted Army said he would probably jack off onto Christ if he could get a fund for it, Serrano came up with "White Christ" . An image of a cast-plaster sculpture of Christ’s head was coated with milk and then submerged in water. As the milk swirls off into the water a marbleized effect is seen. Christ’s eyes stare mournfully up to heaven even as He seems to drown in these two life-sustaining fluids. "Milk signifies purity, the purity of life or the maternal aspect of life."

What Serrano has to do with wrestling in comparision, I have no idea. That was a bad comparision. But it should be noted that he has been working on a project involving female bodybuilders over the last few years. He tells me that he wants to make them appear "fuckable". The problem though, is that over the last ten years, womens bodybuilding has downplayed the sheer muscle size that was prevailent in hardcore women like Bev Francis, and the early 80's group. So he does not have many models to work with.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didn't this used to be a wrestling thread?

Jeez, Saint, ya HAD to open THAT can of worms, didn't ya?

:D
 
Jae said:
PISS CHRIST served the purpose that the artist made it out to be. Namely, for publicity. I know Serrano. He has been to a couple of parties my fiance has. I have his work of Stream (Ejaculation in Trajectory):

http://www.hightechhightouch.com/content/specimen/serrano/t_untitledx.jpg

Hanging in my media room. And contrary to what is going around, it is NOT a stream of milk being squirted. I think you all can figure out what it is.


nice... i love the photos... they are so beautiful, yet disturbing. i like that tension.

you should def post more. :)
 
Just some questions for the wrestling crew:

Many of us have watched wrestling since we were young, often without our folks permission. I know I did. And I remember at a young age not really knowing for sure whether it was real or not.

So, do you feel that you've been affected by that? To what extent? Based on your experience, would you let your kids watch it? At what age?
 
Ok, back to the topic of wrestlilng...... I am not sure what it is teaching kids nowdays.... but in the early years it was all about SELF PROMOTION!!!

Ric Flair was the innovator of catch phrases. But before that, you had to really work at getting people to remember who you were. You had to be crazy like Bruiser Brody, scarey like Pak Song, a dream boat like Rick Steamboat, a commie like Ivan Koloff or the Iron Shiek, etc.... Or you had to be a plain guy that really got under people's skin like Gorgeous George. Who can forget Jimmy Jam Garvin strutting to the ring behind Precious who was busy spraying the air with Air Freshner so "her man" wouldn't have to smell all the cigerette smoke. This was long before facilities were No Smoking. Then he would get the mic, his ZZTop music would be cut off and he would inform all the people that while he wrestled, he wanted them to shut up and put out their cigerettes because "it is taking the curls out of my hair and making it fritzzz".
 
gymtime said:
Just some questions for the wrestling crew:

Many of us have watched wrestling since we were young, often without our folks permission. I know I did. And I remember at a young age not really knowing for sure whether it was real or not.

So, do you feel that you've been affected by that? To what extent? Based on your experience, would you let your kids watch it? At what age?


I'd say 13 years old. Hopefully they have enough sense to know what's up. When I was a kid wrestling was very tame compared to what we see today, thanks to Vince MaMahon. That boy's not right.
 
I remember watching G.L.O.W (Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling) on Saturday mornings. I always thought I was getting away with something, kinda like when I watched porn when I was older. The Farmer's Daughter was my favorite. Mmmmmmmmmm.
 
gymtime said:
Just some questions for the wrestling crew:

Many of us have watched wrestling since we were young, often without our folks permission. I know I did. And I remember at a young age not really knowing for sure whether it was real or not.

So, do you feel that you've been affected by that? To what extent? Based on your experience, would you let your kids watch it? At what age?

depends on the maturity of my child... i would be more protective if i had children i am sure... but then isn;t that the whole point of this threa?
 
The Nature Boy said:



I'd say 13 years old. Hopefully they have enough sense to know what's up. When I was a kid wrestling was very tame compared to what we see today, thanks to Vince MaMahon. That boy's not right.

LOL!! NB - It's "that boy aint right." Say it with me......
 
saint808 said:


depends on the maturity of my child... i would be more protective if i had children i am sure... but then isn;t that the whole point of this threa?


Saint, you win a cupie doll. :D
 
frorider6 said:



Saint, you win a cupie doll. :D
LOL

At a very young age my grandmother told me wrestling was fake as she was making out a check to jim and tammy baker... nuff said.
 
yeah... wrestling was much more tame when we were younger. I remember when the worst thing you could do was piledrive someone. They were guaranteed to be out for six months. Back then, you could ram someone in the steel post or rail and then roll them back in for an easy 1-2-3.

Of course back then, the matches were 30 minutes long. I hated all the damn armbar moves. and I never did believe the sleeper hold really worked.
 
gymtime said:


Oh, it works alright. Just ask my little sister. :D

It was your armpits that knocked her out, not the wrestling move.

Another wacked out move was the Abdominal Stretch. You could see it was just a rest hold. Poor Lex Luger would always be caught mouthing off the words... "what do we do next?" every time he was trapped in it.


And who could forget the dreaded ForeArm-Off-The-Ropes. Boy that knocked them cold. I could never remember why all the other forearms they gave them didn't do the trick. Somehow, just hitting ropes transformed your forearm into a steel head roller.

And let not forget the Heel move... The fishhook. You know where they would hang them over the ropes and then hook a finger in each corner of their mouths and stretch their lips. Dudes would be missing some fingers if I were the babyface. No one uses that move anymore.


I guess it can be argued that the Midnight Express, Lane and Eaton were the parents to the high impact moves you see today. They came up with so many, the announcers could never get a name for them sometimes. Remember Jim Crockett naming that move of theirs The Double Doozle? Shit. He couldn't describe it any other way. Then they had The GraveDigger. Man... they were awesome.
 
gymtime said:


Oh, it works alright. Just ask my little sister. :D

dude, I am picturing you sneaking up on your little sister while she is having a tea party with her Barbies or playing on the swinging and slapping that sleeper hold on her. Her little arms and leg flying everywhere... muffled screams.... then a sharp elbow to your crotch, a kick to the shins and then she says "I'm telling on you....."

Spent the week in your room huh?
 
LOL, Jae where have you been for all the wrestling threads?

Remeber the tests of strength? They never do that anymore.

And remember the rope they'd have to hold on to in the corner for tag team matches?

Whatever happened to the locker room interview? That got replaced with 20 minutes of boring talking in the ring.

Or the the rake across the back? Or if you threw someone ever the top rope you'ld be disqualified? Or the matches with a 10 minute time limit? Or when people didn't have theme music? Or when announcers got beat up by wrestlers?
 
Jae said:


dude, I am picturing you sneaking up on your little sister while she is having a tea party with her Barbies or playing on the swinging and slapping that sleeper hold on her. Her little arms and leg flying everywhere... muffled screams.... then a sharp elbow to your crotch, a kick to the shins and then she says "I'm telling on you....."

Spent the week in your room huh?

Close, but my sister was a bit more of a planner. She waited until later that evening, came up behind me while I was sprawled out in a chair and dropped a 12lb bowling ball on my boys. Good times.....
 
saint808 said:
hey smalls how is wrestling any worse or less appealing than piss christ?

How does this effect anything? Just becuase it may (or may not) be 'better' than Piss Christ has NO bearing on the merits of the WWF.
Just cuz u can think of something that is 'worse' than wrestling dosent make wrestling ok. Thats like saying that beating the shit out of someone is ok, cuz there is something worse than that... killing them.
Bogus argument.
 
gymtime said:


Close, but my sister was a bit more of a planner. She waited until later that evening, came up behind me while I was sprawled out in a chair and dropped a 12lb bowling ball on my boys. Good times.....


<hank hills patented scream> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
 
If your looking for wrestling to teach your kid anything then maybe it would be wise to search elsewhere. But here is something positive a kid "could" get out of it.

Wrestling could show a kid about survival of the fittest---where only the strong survive. But in Wrestling case which is unique, you have cartoon like-- -bigger then life characters(appealing to kids and adults) showing a kid that even if he doesn't beat the other in a match, he will not quit and will be back to try to win his next match.....It could show a kid not to give up.....peace
 
Wombat said:
If your looking for wrestling to teach your kid anything then maybe it would be wise to search elsewhere. But here is something positive a kid "could" get out of it.

Wrestling could show a kid about survival of the fittest---where only the strong survive. But in Wrestling case which is unique, you have cartoon like-- -bigger then life characters(appealing to kids and adults) showing a kid that even if he doesn't beat the other in a match, he will not quit and will be back to try to win his next match.....It could show a kid not to give up.....peace

By your logic, you're also teaching him that violence is a perfectly acceptable form of problem solving.
 
this thread makes me want to punch people. and break chairs.
and get big huge imlants and wear short shorts.

but in all honesty, most of the other threads do too.
 
I don't know what, if anything, it teaches kids, but I wouldn't get too into it, since it attracts a similar demographic as NASCAR.

Don't try to tell me people who are willing to spend their time watching fake fights are mostly college-educated.
 
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Re: What does wrestling teach children?

Violence and how to act like a complete moron with too much body fat to boot.
 
frorider6 said:


By your logic, you're also teaching him that violence is a perfectly acceptable form of problem solving.

The truth is that it is(atleast on this planet)-----that is why wars exist-----we may not like it but survival has everything to do with violence. Always has and always will. We can hide these things from kids for some time but they will find out the truth one way or another. We live in a very violent world. Some may not like it and want to hide from it but it is there and always will be.
 
pro wrestling teaches kids that they can say their prayers, take their vitamins, train and to quote the rock:' go take a hulkacrap."

lol, that was funny. i had to add that. sorry. :)
 
Go to MOrpheus and download the kid acting like Scott Hall. He is beating his brother up in the bedroom. He actually does the Razors Edge and then does the Hall strut.



In wrestling.... whatever happened to the Body Scissors?

The Stomach Claw?

The 30 minute headlock? You know they lay on the mat and every once in a couple of minutes, one rolls the other over his shoulders and attempts a pin.

The Spinning Toe Hold?

And what about all the old gimmich matches? The Death Match. (Shit, no one ever died. I was disappointed), The Coal Miners Glove Match? The Lights Out Match (wearing hoods so they can't see. WTF??) The Bondage Match (where each wrestler had a friend come to the ring and use ropes to tie his opponent up in the corner. The first one loose got to beat on the other wrestler. The Heel was always lose first.)
 
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