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What are your thoughts on how often to take sust?
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glennds
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i am taking twice a week, on week 4. have put on 5 lbs or so. not big huge gains but steady. no sides yet, besides a little pain in my glute the first couple injections. i understand the potential for sides come later with sus, and i hope this is not the case with me. eod seems like an awful lot.
babbabuee
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I get why guys want to do mon / thurs injections, but if the idea is to get your levels as steady as possible, then doesn't it make sense that you would do the same amount of time between shots, i.e. e#d. I'm running enanthate/eq now at 250/200 e4d. when I run sust later this year, or next, I'll probably do e3d or e4d, depending on what I stack with it.
so my vote is for either e3d, e4d or e5d, depending on your history/goals.
so my vote is for either e3d, e4d or e5d, depending on your history/goals.
bicepts101
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this is why i will never use sust again....too much speculation of when to take it
when i did use it i went E3D
when i did use it i went E3D
Nighthawkk
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Sust is fine twice a week. The idea behind EOD jabs is to take advantage of the prop/isoprop, but the amounts are small and you will still make great gains by building up levels of the longer acting esters.
concordsize
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I dont use sus because I dont thing you get the full effects unless used ed or eod. And if that is the case I would use prop.
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bicepts101
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hvywghtchamp said:
it was ok...im likeing cyp much better....i feel like im getting less side effects
.....plus sust has you limping for 4 days...which pisses me off
majutsu
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I like sust -- but this is a pointless argument, as its different for everyone. Sust 2x/week is fine for an earlier cycle or stacked with another drug for an intermediate cycle, or 3x week with stacking for a slightly more advanced cycle. Those are my prefs. Susts are nice I think--and they're human grade, which I like.
majutsu
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Jubei, sust for me has less acne, less water bloat than cyp or enant. Although, I prefer enantate over cyp for the same reasons. I like prop (which is why I like sust), but just prop SEEMS (subjectively) to give me less gains than the longer esters (maybe the longer esters just build up a higher blood level more effectively, I don't know.) I know guys say, "Oh! just do enantate and prop." Sure . . . and tell me again how that's easier than sust? Plus, I seem to pay 10-16$ for 200mg test whether prop, enan, cyp, or sust -- so where is this supposed cost difference? Sust has always been cheap, far cheaper than prop, and only slightly more expensive than cyp or enan jugs. Also, sust is human grade, except for schering, all these other esters are UG labs or vet grade. Sust is good 
trinidad
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majutsu said:Jubei, sust for me has less acne, less water bloat than cyp or enant. Although, I prefer enantate over cyp for the same reasons. I like prop (which is why I like sust), but just prop SEEMS (subjectively) to give me less gains than the longer esters (maybe the longer esters just build up a higher blood level more effectively, I don't know.) I know guys say, "Oh! just do enantate and prop." Sure . . . and tell me again how that's easier than sust? Plus, I seem to pay 10-16$ for 200mg test whether prop, enan, cyp, or sust -- so where is this supposed cost difference? Sust has always been cheap, far cheaper than prop, and only slightly more expensive than cyp or enan jugs. Also, sust is human grade, except for schering, all these other esters are UG labs or vet grade. Sust is good
Majutsu, how often do you inject and at what doses when taking sust? I'm currently doing 500 mgs. e5d.
i like taking eod,, iam getting ready to start 250mg sus eod almost 1000 a week, 100mg tren eod for first 60 days and 100 mg winni depot eod starting the 3rd week. any comments on that i would appreciate. last one i did was 600 t-400 a week divided m-w-f with 200 deca m-w-f and 100 tren m-w-f. i loved it but time for a bigger and better on pluse i love winni depot...
Cardinal Slin
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honestly dude, twice a week is enough - once a week or every 5 days aint that bad either. At the end of the day you are not talking about massive differences in weight gain - probably a few lbs.
technogeek
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So as a first time cycle 250 e5d with liver support and pct would be good enough for me?
First time cycle
age 30
230 lbs
6 ft tall
in pretty good shape
First time cycle
age 30
230 lbs
6 ft tall
in pretty good shape
emilio_rebenga
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technogeek said:
then you should do a text only cycle..its a safer bet for your 1st cycle..you dont have to inject as often and you can see how your body reacts to it
technogeek
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Let me rephrase that, this would be my first injecting cycle. I am currently finishing up a 4 week cycle of chlorodrol-50.
Forgive me for stupid questions and I'm sure you get tired of the same old questions all the time I just want to do this the right way and you people seem really knowledgable.
What is a text only cycle and what will I need. Thanks in advance.
Forgive me for stupid questions and I'm sure you get tired of the same old questions all the time I just want to do this the right way and you people seem really knowledgable.
What is a text only cycle and what will I need. Thanks in advance.
Bruce said:
+1
Susta is a blend of pretty much diff. "rare" test types, except for the prop - everyone says you should hit prop eod....and I do that when I take 750mgs of Susta250 ew...but when I take 500mgs of Susta250 ew, then I hit it Mondays and Thursdays.
technogeek
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Can anybody please help me out with my previous questions? Thanks in advance.
whitemahon
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Burpees said:
Guys, as soon as the prop peaks, the phenylprop is ramping up. Once the phenylprop peaks, the iso is right behind it & at a higher concentration. By this time all three are overlaping. There is still some porp & phenylprop and a good amount of iso when the 100mg Deconate ramps up. They all overlap and build on top of eachother. People make it sound like once the prop begins to fade there is some sort of drop. This simply isn't true. While one ester is peaking, the next is building. When the previous ester is dropping, the next one is peaking. I really wish i could draw a line graph to show you guys this. Really the ideal way of taking sustanon for most even serum levels is to frontload 2x dose the first week and 2x week after.
I understand why people would think you need to shoot sus ed or eod "because it has prop in it". However, it only has 30mg of prop & 220 mg of other esters that pick up right where the prop leaves off & keeps the party going for three weeks. Shoot it eod if you like. I'm sure it works, but you really don't need to.
the elite addict
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whitemahon said:
ditto, 2x a week is sufficient
technogeek
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So what would be a good first time test only cycle for a first timer then?
anabolic12
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I have done countless cycles of Sus (which doesnt make me a expert) and have gone EOD and Mon/Thurs. The only dif. I noticed was my strength increased faster. Not any size diff. at all, in week 2 my strength went through the roof, which for my normally happens around week 3. After noticing no other diff. I learned More doesnt mean better, bigger, or stronger. My suggestion is, if you have enough for EOD injects. Brake it up into two cycles.
Like I said I have done many cycles of Sus. and my last cycle was only 250mgs every week for 12 weeks. With the diet I had in check and after PCT. I held onto 8 pounds
Like I said I have done many cycles of Sus. and my last cycle was only 250mgs every week for 12 weeks. With the diet I had in check and after PCT. I held onto 8 pounds
technogeek
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This sounds like a cycle that I want to do with just sus for my first time. Did you take liver support during and what was your PCT. Thanks
technogeek
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Big_Joe
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For me it depends a lot on what I am running with it. If I am doing something like EQ at 600mg per week then I use one amp sus with one ml of 300mg EQ on M,W,F. This give me 750 test and 600 EQ and great stack to put some veins in your arms.
If I'm doing decca and dbol I use an amp of sus on M, W along with the decca. The d-bol goes down the throat.
When I am on a cruise it an amp about every two weeks.
Now this last one I would not recommend for everybody. But I'm an old fart, mid fifties, that has been through a ton of shit and my nuts are shut down, ( not from gear, but that's why I started gear. ) I have been through two different types of chemo that just fucked me up big time. I had been an athlete for over 35 years and all off a sudden I was a broken down old man ready for the grave. Well I'm a two fisted fighter and I have a lot of medical education and training. I did a shit load of tests on my self, read thousands of articles on medline, now they call it pub med. I started with testosterone replacement on my own schedule. I couldn't get my doctor to give it to me and it's cheaper under ground. I started to recover. I made an agreement with my doc. I won't put him in any ethical binds and he doesn't ask any questions he really doesn't want to know the answers to.
Now I do a blast and cruise program it it is working miracles. Just about everybody in my family is a doctor and some are research heads at NIH. I don't tell them shit and they are amazed at how well I am doing. I know they are just dying to ask me what I'm doing but I won't tell them. (Gee I just take vitamins and exercise a lot)
I took a couple of them to a world gym last Christmas for fun. They had never been in a gym like that before.
If I'm doing decca and dbol I use an amp of sus on M, W along with the decca. The d-bol goes down the throat.
When I am on a cruise it an amp about every two weeks.
Now this last one I would not recommend for everybody. But I'm an old fart, mid fifties, that has been through a ton of shit and my nuts are shut down, ( not from gear, but that's why I started gear. ) I have been through two different types of chemo that just fucked me up big time. I had been an athlete for over 35 years and all off a sudden I was a broken down old man ready for the grave. Well I'm a two fisted fighter and I have a lot of medical education and training. I did a shit load of tests on my self, read thousands of articles on medline, now they call it pub med. I started with testosterone replacement on my own schedule. I couldn't get my doctor to give it to me and it's cheaper under ground. I started to recover. I made an agreement with my doc. I won't put him in any ethical binds and he doesn't ask any questions he really doesn't want to know the answers to.
Now I do a blast and cruise program it it is working miracles. Just about everybody in my family is a doctor and some are research heads at NIH. I don't tell them shit and they are amazed at how well I am doing. I know they are just dying to ask me what I'm doing but I won't tell them. (Gee I just take vitamins and exercise a lot)
I took a couple of them to a world gym last Christmas for fun. They had never been in a gym like that before.
nzrodney
Banned
Here's a link to an old theory about cycling sustanon. I believe it has some merit & I have used it this way but in any event the way you dose sust if determined by the amount of the dose. With 750mg PW it can be shot EOD M-W-F with a lay off on the weekend without any real adverse effects to bloods levels as the amount of the short esters are minimal. Anything over a gram PW should go ED IMO to achieve even bloods & less sides.
http://bb-forums.com/steroids/p/34751/cycling_sustanon
http://bb-forums.com/steroids/p/34751/cycling_sustanon
goku_kakarot77
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eod or ed at best, some even say 2x week
