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We need to leave Israel alone!

BigGuns2

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I just heard on CNN that the U.S. is asking Israel to withdraw from the Palestinian territory that they now are occupying with troops. We need to leave Israel alone! I am sick and tired of us kissing Arab ass to help protect a totally bullshit alliance that we have with certain arab nations. These nations certainly are not our friends. Israel has lived with the horror of terrorism for a long time, and they retaliate with strong force. Israel is our only "true" ally in the middle east. Instead of kissing arab ass at the expense of Israel, we need to let Israel do whatever they deem necessary to protect themselves.
 
Yes, at this point, we need to realize that Israel (along with Great Britian, and probably Australia) are our only real allies...

If Bush is actually considering setting up a Palestinian state...well, bad karma for him, LOL!
 
monkey_love said:
BigGuns22: Brilliant Statement. Fuck Isreal seriously. Half of the problems we are IN now is because of Isreal! According to a CNN report most if not all the terrorirsts are mostly mad at Isreal's treatment of Palastinian people. The Palastinians are refugees in their own country? Regardless to the point, Isreal needs to change their policies and their procedures and stop killing kids/women. Those terrorists attacks are pennies to the dollar compared to how many innocent were killed by the hands of the Isreal army. Fuck them!


That is a great way to advance the Palestinian cause. Lets go out and slaughter as many innocent civilians as we can. How many Israeli car bombs or suicide bombers have struck Palestinian civilians?
 
US should leave both Israel and arabs alone this way less problems..... Israel is strong enough to fight them.
 
IMO, we should get off palestine's nuts, they want a palestinian state, fine, after were done kickin the taliban's ass we'll give afghanistan to palestine.
 
Good idea Doc but the whole prob is because they are not as smart as we are to exclude religion from politics. The seperation of church and state is the single most productive thing about us. As soon as you have religion, you are compromising your politics and integrity because nobody is really sure of what the real reason is that you voted the way you did. The entire problem is because of religion and who wants the prestige of owning the land jesus walked. They wouldn't take Afghaniwhogivesashit. As for Isreal killing more than they lose, its called a deterrent and those scumbag terrorists are too fucking uncaring about their own people to give a shit, more proof they are just in it to kill and hurt people. If someone told me they would kill me and my family if I hit them, I wouldn't risk it. They do not care. .02
 
monkey_love said:
BigGuns22: Brilliant Statement. Fuck Isreal seriously. Half of the problems we are IN now is because of Isreal! According to a CNN report most if not all the terrorirsts are mostly mad at Isreal's treatment of Palastinian people. The Palastinians are refugees in their own country? Regardless to the point, Isreal needs to change their policies and their procedures and stop killing kids/women. Those terrorists attacks are pennies to the dollar compared to how many innocent were killed by the hands of the Isreal army. Fuck them!
you are aware that BigGuns2 meant in the other way round?
 
Kahn said:
Good idea Doc but the whole prob is because they are not as smart as we are to exclude religion from politics. The seperation of church and state is the single most productive thing about us. As soon as you have religion, you are compromising your politics and integrity because nobody is really sure of what the real reason is that you voted the way you did. The entire problem is because of religion and who wants the prestige of owning the land jesus walked. They wouldn't take Afghaniwhogivesashit. As for Isreal killing more than they lose, its called a deterrent and those scumbag terrorists are too fucking uncaring about their own people to give a shit, more proof they are just in it to kill and hurt people. If someone told me they would kill me and my family if I hit them, I wouldn't risk it. They do not care. .02

Kahn, I'm not trying to flame you, but I think our politics/politicians suck, not because they're separate, but because our government is corrupt, and lies are the basis of whoever is campaigning for offices. You're right about religion being the problem for them. They will never be able to separate religion from their politics. It's been that way for centuries.
 
monkey_love said:


Isreal has killed more innocent palestinains then you could possible imagine. In fact if the U.S wasnt in bed with Isreal, we would have sanctioned them for this type of behavior (Cronkiet, 34). You dont think when Isreal retaliates after a car bombing they only kill terrorists. They kill any palastinian/muslim.

Which is what puts us on their most hated list also, we support Israel, every country in the world can see this, but until the attacks, comments about it were muted. Now, our government needs to admit the obvious, and step out of the fray. Instead of saying that they only hate us for our civilization, it's a lot more to it than just that.
 
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