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Using juice to win an EAS physique transformation competition

Theoretically,if you wanted to win one of those 12 week EAS drug tested before/after picture transformations, what drugs would you use and when would you discontinue them in order to pass the drugs test!?

Do you think most of them were on the sauce?
 
SPORT SCIENTIST said:
Theoretically,if you wanted to win one of those 12 week EAS drug tested before/after picture transformations, what drugs would you use and when would you discontinue them in order to pass the drugs test!?

Do you think most of them were on the sauce?


LOL, sure some do. Most actually make a total 180 simply by dieting, cardio, lifting and having great genetics...Im sure Bill would test you out b4 he gave you his Lambo
 
If I'm not mistaken I believe the prize is $1,000,000. I know they state that they do testing for gear. I would think that if they're giving away $1 million, you bet they're going to take testing seriously. Even if you found a way to come up clean, unless your natty test is back into normal ranges by the time they test you, then they'll probably be a little questionable.
 
Ben Johnson passed 19 tests in the two years before being caught at the Seoul Olympics, though he admitted afterwards of long-term steroid use. Seeing as he was a Winstrol man, I guess that would be a good one to use!


Ben Johnson was stripped of his Olympic 100m gold medal when he became the most high profile athlete ever to fail a drug test. At first he denied drug use, saying that an American athlete had spiked his drink while he waited to give his urine sample. In the end it turned out that he had tested positive only through his own stupidity. Having passed all his previous tests by ensuring that the steroids he used had cleared his body by the time he competed and was drug tested, a hamstring injury caused Johnson to panic. Fearing his chance of Olympic gold was gone he received a stanozolol injection just 2 days before the final. It was this act that caused him to fail the test, without it he would probably have passed it like all the others. Therefore instead of being remembered as the most notorious cheat in history, he would have been known as a truly great Olympic champion. (English A, 1999).


I also understand that there is no reliable test for growth hormone and EPO

If you could get hold of some THG, or another designer steroid that they haven't designed a test for, that might go down well!

Any other thoughts?

"To be caught is not easy; it only happens when an athlete is either incredibly sloppy, incredibly stupid, or both" – Emil Vrijman (Bamberger M, 1997).
 
That story is bullshit. BJ did NOT get a shot 2 days prior to being tested. I'd like to know this guys source because the people like his coach who finally admitted and told the story of BJ's drug use tells a different tale.

Winny is a very bad choice. The reason is that the metabolites from the depot sit in the muscle for several months. Which is what happened to BJ according to his trainer. The metabolite can let go at any time and there is no way to know when. If you are getting tested and the metabolite lets go, you're busted.
 
Ulter said:
That story is bullshit. BJ did NOT get a shot 2 days prior to being tested. I'd like to know this guys source because the people like his coach who finally admitted and told the story of BJ's drug use tells a different tale.

Winny is a very bad choice. The reason is that the metabolites from the depot sit in the muscle for several months. Which is what happened to BJ according to his trainer. The metabolite can let go at any time and there is no way to know when. If you are getting tested and the metabolite lets go, you're busted.

Source: A.Hill 1999


Also found this on the net, found it very interesting:

Ben Johnson followed in 1981, when he was twenty years old, beginning with a daily dose of five milligrams of the steroid Dianabol, in three-week on-and-off cycles. Over time, that protocol grew more complex. In 1984, Taylor visited a Los Angeles doctor, Robert Kerr, who was famous for his willingness to provide athletes with pharmacological assistance. He suggested that the Canadians use human growth hormone, the pituitary extract that promotes lean muscle and that had become, in Francis's words, "the rage in elite track circles." Kerr also recommended three additional substances, all of which were believed to promote the body's production of growth hormone: the amino acids arginine and ornithine and the dopamine precursor L-dopa. "I would later learn," Francis writes, "that one group of American women was using three times as much growth hormone as Kerr had suggested, in addition to 15 milligrams per day of Dianabol, another 15 milligrams of Anavar, large amounts of testosterone, and thyroxine, the synthetic thyroid hormone used by athletes to speed the metabolism and keep people lean." But the Canadians stuck to their initial regimen, making only a few changes: Vitamin B12, a non-steroidal muscle builder called inosine, and occasional shots of testosterone were added; Dianabol was dropped in favor of a newer steroid called Furazabol; and L-dopa, which turned out to cause stiffness, was replaced with the blood-pressure drug Dixarit.

Going into the Seoul Olympics, then, Johnson was a walking pharmacy. But--and this is the great irony of his case--none of the drugs that were part of his formal pharmaceutical protocol resulted in his failed drug test. He had already reaped the benefit of the steroids in intense workouts leading up to the games, and had stopped Furazabol and testosterone long enough in advance that all traces of both supplements should have disappeared from his system by the time of his race--a process he sped up by taking the diuretic Moduret. Human growth hormone wasn't--and still isn't--detectable by a drug test, and arginine, ornithine, and Dixarit were legal. Johnson should have been clean. The most striking (and unintentionally hilarious) moment in "Speed Trap" comes when Francis describes his bewilderment at being informed that his star runner had failed a drug test--for the anabolic steroid stanozolol. "I was floored," Francis writes:

"To my knowledge, Ben had never injected stanozolol. He occasionally used Winstrol, an oral version of the drug, but for no more than a few days at a time, since it tended to make him stiff. He'd always discontinued the tablets at least six weeks before a meet, well beyond the accepted clearance time. . . . After seven years of using steroids, Ben knew what he was doing. It was inconceivable to me that he might take stanozolol on his own and jeopardize the most important race of his life."

Francis suggests that Johnson's urine sample might have been deliberately contaminated by a rival, a charge that is less preposterous than it sounds. Documents from the East German archive show, for example, that in international competitions security was so lax that urine samples were sometimes switched, stolen from a "clean" athlete, or simply "borrowed" from a noncompetitor. "The pure urine would either be infused by a catheter into the competitor's bladder (a rather painful procedure) or be held in condoms until it was time to give a specimen to the drug control lab," Ungerleider writes. (The top East German sports official Manfred Höppner was once in charge of urine samples at an international weight-lifting competition. When he realized that several of his weight lifters would not pass the test, he broke open the seal of their specimens, poured out the contents, and, Ungerleider notes, "took a nice long leak of pure urine into them.") It is also possible that Johnson's test was simply botched. Two years later, in 1990, track and field's governing body claimed that Butch Reynolds, the world's four-hundred-metre record holder, had tested positive for the steroid nandrolone, and suspended him for two years. It did so despite the fact that half of his urine-sample data had been misplaced, that the testing equipment had failed during analysis of the other half of his sample, and that the lab technician who did the test identified Sample H6 as positive--and Reynolds's sample was numbered H5. Reynolds lost the prime years of his career.

We may never know what really happened with Johnson's assay, and perhaps it doesn't much matter. He was a doper. But clearly this was something less than a victory for drug enforcement. Here was a man using human growth hormone, Dixarit, inosine, testosterone, and Furazabol, and the only substance that the testers could find in him was stanozolol--which may have been the only illegal drug that he hadn't used.

After failing the drugs test at the '88 olympics, Johnson said this: :

There are about six dozen drugs on the market, as far as I know, and some, like water-based testosterone, leave the system in a day,"

-an assertion confirmed by several experts on steroids and other performance-enhancing substances. Even with the most commonly used water-based steroids, the two-week period can be shortened. "Let's say I have a deal with a lab under which I can send your urine to test your (steroid) levels, "says Voy, assuming the role of an illicit-drug adviser. "Then I just play around. I adjust the dosed. I know exactly when to get you off to fall below the (drug-testing) radar. If I can get you off nine days before your event, we've got it made, because chances are you're not going to lose any of your (strength and endurance) gains in that period. It's simple biochemistry."

Sports scientists say that a run-of-the-mill male athlete with a 1-to-1 t/e ratio who raised his ratio to 6 to 1 by injecting testosterone (the maximum levels allowed to pass a test), in conjunction with hGH could improve his athlete performance by as much as 10% to 20%. That's a huge advantage in, say a 100-meter sprint in which a few hundredths of a second can separate first place from fourth, or in a throwing event, in which six feet can separate a gold medalist from an also-ran.

Donike also established 6 to 1 as the legal ratio for women, even though it is almost unheard of for a women to have a ratio greater than 2.5 to 1.


Anyone other suggestions?
 
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