Troubling article from the AS board

[tripleV]

Check out the article at
http://www.realbodybuilding.com/steroids.html
I found this posted on the AS board and thought the ladies might want to read also.

 

[flex4life]

sad and scary... the pros I've known (men and women) told the same stories re: health issues, costs, 'have to do it to win'
I see these mag pics & wonder... how much further will it go before they really start dying off?

 

[poohbear]

Several leading questions, but interesting none the less

 

[tripleV]

yeah interesting, i don't know how to take it. all i can say is that is does "affect" me when I read it...how...i'm not too sure.

 

[wilson6]

This article was printed during the height of the BB magazine anti-steroid movement that went on in 1990's. If you look at things now, the same mags that were hard core BB mags that went to the PC movement in the 90's are back to hardcore BB and discussing responsible AAS use rather than condeming it as they did in the 90's. How much truth is there to this article and how many pro's does this represent? Who knows and who cares. Good tabloid journalism is about finding the worst of the worst to interview then making it sound like it is the norm amongst that population. Sure there is considerable drug abuse at the pro level, always will be. Is it to win or is it to be a freak or satisfy some other personal desire, or do they just say it is to win so they can pin their decision to use drugs heavily on someone else? It's not their fault, they have to in order to win. Yeah, whatever.

W6

 

[ann]

No ones holding a gun to anyones head ...... Its their body, their choice, and they made their beds, now sleep in it.

 

[Sassy69]

No ones holding a gun to anyones head ...... Its their body, their choice, and they made their beds, now sleep in it.

I think this article is indicative of the bb industry at the pro level. Let's face it, there's so little money in it as a sport, but there're obviously people who want to get into it. Especially if you are coming from the pure novice side (e.g reading the mags, think protein mix & cell tech will get into the fitness or Mr. O comps) - then the reality hits. There are plenty of local competitions are precious few that are actually "natural".

To make any money in this sport, the bottom line is market value - the public wants to see the freaky huge people. How much bigger is Ronnie Coleman than Arnold was? How much bigger will this year's Mr. O be? The womens' comp requirements are easing up a little - we've passed through the freaky big phase and now they are moving to a "softer" look - though its still not clear what the hell they are looking for. Figure & fitness are becoming the "preferred" look. But reality -- even the figure girls, who do not have to be huge and do not have to have fantastic strength, endurance and gymnastic skill are taking AS, diuretics, T3 and all the other secret ingredients so they look tight in 2 posing suits on comp day.

So, not it maybe doesn't have to get to the level that the interviewee is talking about, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening. Also people can choose to persue or not persue this as a career -- but those that do will probably get sucked into some level of chemical abuse along the way because that is the media and the industry demand to make it profitable. Very sad. But I think very true.

 

[ann]

What made me sad reading the article, wasnt the drug abuse ( because I know damn well they dont get that from creatine alone, as all the ads in the mags show ) but from anyone having to stoop so low, and sell your body for drug money. Now thats a sad individual..... its about the only thing in the article that kind of freaked me out.

 

[wilson6]

Selling one's body for drug money. Sounds like someone is trying to equate AAS to narcotics. Like I said, it was the era of anti-AAS by the mags. PC.....

Do some bodybuilders sell their bodies for AAS because they really want steroids or it is that life style that appeals to them and the AAS use is an excuse to pursue it? Maybe........

No one gets sucked into chemical use. Some want those physiques and they find out the reality of what it takes to get them. At that point they have to decide if that is what they want to do. It's still their decision.

There is nothing sad about any of this because it's still by choice.

Sad to me is when some little kid is shot and killed by his/her father who whacks out because his wife wants a divorce because she is tired of getting beat-up by him.

W6

 

[Sassy69]

Well, I guess its sad in the fact that a lot of people get into this sport because they love doing it - and if you happened to be heading in the direction of sports modeling, etc. the sort of "expected" requirement is the use of AS. It sort of perpetuates itself. In other words if you choose to NOT do AS, then you have to choose to NOT be a sports model or whatever was your goal -- the AS / abuse is the necssary byproduct.

 

[NY Muscle]

I know a few pros, and they all feellike they are cattle and they are, i dont even know any pros who like what they do, most hate it, even the top guys lilke flex wheeler and lee preist, also kevin levrone, he doesnt even want to do the olympia this year, hes just fed up.

personally i think the top pros mostly look gross and like jokes, expect for guys like Dexter Jackson and a few other new pros like Victor Martinez, but eventually they all end up lookin like clowns and a freak show..but at least they still look like men... its the women that are sad... i goto shows a lot.. i just went to the Womens Extravaganza in NJ this satruday, it was funny the girls were massive in the audience and manly and their voices were so low. funnything is.. i got the privaledge of talking to some of the judges, Rich Gaspari and John H(placed 3rd in masters olympia) and all they did was talk shit about the female bodybuilders and the strength girls, how disgusting they find it and how its a joke and they are all jokes.
when u see some of these girls ( if u can still can call them that) with jawlines worse than most guys, and who have to shave everywhere and clits as big as a thumb, it makes you wonder what are they thinking..hey to each their own, but female bodybuilders get no respect, i mean there were maybe 200 people at the show, it was a small seminar room, if it was fitness it would have been over 1000 people their and in a huge auditorium.. shit a few yrs ago the ms olympia was in a room just as small.
they should get rid of female bodybuilding altogether and stick to just figure and fitness.

oh 1 last thing... a bunch of pros want to walk off stage at the 2001 Olympia in Vegas, as a protest but i doubt that they will, the big names will never do it especially ronnie coleman.

 

[flex4life]

Some of the pros/competitors I've talked with knew AS was a part of competing to win, however never expected it to be to used the degree it is to stay a part of the winning & make $$... sure it's a choice, but to really succeed at it, like Sassy said, it's a necessary bi-product. If your choice is 'no more for me', you have to find a new career path.

Sandy Renaldi (NPC judge) recently interviewed on '60 Minutes' agreed "AS is a big part of the sport... and to test or ban AS use, this elimates the 'freaks'... no freaks= no audience & no $$$."

 

[NY Muscle]

i just want to add 1 thing

i like the ametuer female bodybuilders and some NPC girls, but the pros are gross lol