Trenbolone.. problems..!

[aismas]

Hello everyone i need some help regarding trenbolone's side effects.

First off let me say i am 29, 5 '10, 185 lbs, around 12% bf, training for 4 years and i ve done like 5-6 cycles before.

Now i ve started a cycle with TREN 300mg's/week Test 750 mgs/week TBOL 60mg's/day and EQ 400 mgs/week.

I have experience with all of that and i am sure that the only drug that fucks me up mentally & emotionally is TREN. I get angry, short tempered, paranoid and i have fucked up mood swings i cant control. I havent pinned for a week now just to see if i am right about it and i am much more calm and easy going. BUT..

I know no other drug is going to give me all of Trenbolone's positive properties. To get similar effects i should substitute it with Masteron (still causes a bit of anger as i heard) winny, primo anavar all together!

MY QUESTION IS: ANYONE FOUND A WAY WITHOUT TAKING OTHER HARSH DRUGS TO ELIMINATE OR AT LEAST MINIMIZE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL SIDES OF TREN? IF YES PLS HELP A TREN LOVER OUT, OTHERWISE I LL HAVE TO DROP IT..

 

[dusteefartz]

If you love it so much...you just need to Man up and are you taking caber or parami with it?

 

[aismas]

Hi and thanks for the reply. I know what you mean but its so difficult to control it.. I ve consider caber as it lowers prolactin but does it help with the other side effects?

 

[stevesmi]

if you are a paranoid angry guy off steroids then tren will make you worse on steroids.

its not the tren that is the root problem, it is you. you have some maturing to do .. 29 is still young.

i use tren all the time and i don't have any issues like this.. i've written about low blood sugar symptoms which definately could contribute to your problems with it, you should dig up some of my threads about it. you could try glycogen tabs as well as apple juice when you are feeling symptoms coming on. low blood sugar can cause many symptoms and everyone reacts differently. in the end though it seems like you just are running too much shit and to be honest if you have that many cycles under your belt at your height you should be well over 200 pounds by now. so something is wrong with your diet, seems like you aren't eating enough

 

[dusteefartz]

if you are a paranoid angry guy off steroids then tren will make you worse on steroids.

its not the tren that is the root problem, it is you. you have some maturing to do .. 29 is still young.

i use tren all the time and i don't have any issues like this.. i've written about low blood sugar symptoms which definately could contribute to your problems with it, you should dig up some of my threads about it. you could try glycogen tabs as well as apple juice when you are feeling symptoms coming on. low blood sugar can cause many symptoms and everyone reacts differently. in the end though it seems like you just are running too much shit and to be honest if you have that many cycles under your belt at your height you should be well over 200 pounds by now. so something is wrong with your diet, seems like you aren't eating enough

Listen to this man. He knows his shit and I agree.
Im running tren right now and I am not experiencing any of your symptoms. Also look into N2Guard.

 

[RickRock13]

Diet change can help some, but if Tren causes you those problems it may be best for you to just avoid it all together.

 

[MattJS]

Sounds like you might be better off looking elsewhere... Anything that causes sides that bad isn't worth it...

 

[rustilldown]

Your also running test at 750 Mgs a week and high test plus tren in my experience is susceptible to way more sides than a just a maintenance dose of test.. Let the tren do the muscle building. Also you have 400 Mgs of eq in the mix and which isn't a ton but still is notorious for high bp and anxiety in some.and you have 60 Mgs a day of tbol ... High BP cycle if you ask me and high RBC count I'd imagine

 

[semper03]

Everyone else pretty much summed it all up but I'll throw in my experience with tren for the hell of it.

I love tren and incorporate it into almost every cycle. I've never had any problems with it but one time about a year and a half ago.

I pinned in the AM before work and as I'm on my way there I just got this extreme feeling of irritability. I couldn't sit still and felt angry as fuck. I got to work and just seeing other people pissed me off to no end. I requested to be pulled off my unit and put on the yard so I could walk it off. 11 hours later it was a lot better and once I lifted when I got off it was gone and never came back.

Steve explained it to me also about how tren effects sugar levels. I had an extreme craving for the shit. I don't eat any sugar except for what's naturally found in food but damn I was ready to fug up some cake lol

Anyway read up on Steve's post about sugar an take a chill pill. Roid rage doesn't exist just inexperience with the compound.

 

[ozcroboy]

i couldnt function without caber every 3rd day on tren. not sure thats ur source of anger but i couldnt sleep and was up n down emotionally from day to day. wouldnt use tren without caber again

 

[Dk350]

if you are a paranoid angry guy off steroids then tren will make you worse on steroids.

its not the tren that is the root problem, it is you. you have some maturing to do .. 29 is still young.

i use tren all the time and i don't have any issues like this.. i've written about low blood sugar symptoms which definately could contribute to your problems with it, you should dig up some of my threads about it. you could try glycogen tabs as well as apple juice when you are feeling symptoms coming on. low blood sugar can cause many symptoms and everyone reacts differently. in the end though it seems like you just are running too much shit and to be honest if you have that many cycles under your belt at your height you should be well over 200 pounds by now. so something is wrong with your diet, seems like you aren't eating enough

Damn straight! I felt like a schizo on tren ace. Constantly looking over my shoulder and checking my corners and shit.

 

[Arabian]

if you are a paranoid angry guy off steroids then tren will make you worse on steroids.

its not the tren that is the root problem, it is you. you have some maturing to do .. 29 is still young.

i use tren all the time and i don't have any issues like this.. i've written about low blood sugar symptoms which definately could contribute to your problems with it, you should dig up some of my threads about it. you could try glycogen tabs as well as apple juice when you are feeling symptoms coming on. low blood sugar can cause many symptoms and everyone reacts differently. in the end though it seems like you just are running too much shit and to be honest if you have that many cycles under your belt at your height you should be well over 200 pounds by now. so something is wrong with your diet, seems like you aren't eating enough

^^^ This , I have run countless cycles of Tren and it does not always bulk people up, it all comes down to diet. If you eat alot and have a high protein / calorie diet then you will gain more than normal. On the other hand , if you eat and do not intake enough calories or protein, it will actually shred you up and reduce your bulk. As with any compound, it all comes down to your diet. Best of luck

 

[stevesmi]

the odd thing with tren is I gain a shitload of mass on it and put on weight and some body fat too.. even running a caloric deficit. I am definately the minority cause most guys will say they shred up on tren even eating junk. so lesson is everyone reacts differently and you should try it yourself but be smart.

in theory since tren is a tremendous nutrition partitioner if you eat a lot on it you should put on a tremendous amount of mass on the stuff .. nothing else short of slin on paper does what tren does when it comes to shuttling shit into the muscle. (and i've even tried some slin and i still think tren blows it away too) food for thought.. unfortunately when you come off tren you tend to get a slingshot effect which is why i always tell guys not use tren early on in their cycling career. save it for later cause you can get very discouraged watching your lifts go way up and then come crashing down when you lose that shuttling advantage..

in many cases newbs will actually end up in worse shape after a tren cycle for this reason and would of been far better served lifting natural and building a proper base then jumping into tren. don't believe me? see criminal10dinc on youtube.. dude has run test/tren off and on for almost a year straight and looks like he doesn't even lift. a lot of the vets like myself, arabian, and other tell newbs to leave tren for later on and they think we say this cause we somehow want to keep guys from reaching their potential, in reality we say this cause we WANT you newbs to reach your potential.

 

[UA_Iron]

Pros take a lot of other drugs to combat things like this... things in the benzo classes to numb out those kinds of feelings.

But I in no way recommend that, in fact, I strongly am opposed to anyone doing that. That's the fact of the game.

 

[Aplopez8]

Hello everyone i need some help regarding trenbolone's side effects.

First off let me say i am 29, 5 '10, 185 lbs, around 12% bf, training for 4 years and i ve done like 5-6 cycles before.

Now i ve started a cycle with TREN 300mg's/week Test 750 mgs/week TBOL 60mg's/day and EQ 400 mgs/week.

I have experience with all of that and i am sure that the only drug that fucks me up mentally & emotionally is TREN. I get angry, short tempered, paranoid and i have fucked up mood swings i cant control. I havent pinned for a week now just to see if i am right about it and i am much more calm and easy going. BUT..

I know no other drug is going to give me all of Trenbolone's positive properties. To get similar effects i should substitute it with Masteron (still causes a bit of anger as i heard) winny, primo anavar all together!

MY QUESTION IS: ANYONE FOUND A WAY WITHOUT TAKING OTHER HARSH DRUGS TO ELIMINATE OR AT LEAST MINIMIZE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL SIDES OF TREN? IF YES PLS HELP A TREN LOVER OUT, OTHERWISE I LL HAVE TO DROP IT..

Out of curiosity are u single or in a relationship?

 

[stevesmi]

Pros take a lot of other drugs to combat things like this... things in the benzo classes to numb out those kinds of feelings.

But I in no way recommend that, in fact, I strongly am opposed to anyone doing that. That's the fact of the game.

i think people in general take drugs for every little thing. i mean these days everyone is on atleast 2 or 3 drugs at a time for everything. we are a fucked up society dependent on a pill for every ill.

 

[UA_Iron]

i think people in general take drugs for every little thing. i mean these days everyone is on atleast 2 or 3 drugs at a time for everything. we are a fucked up society dependent on a pill for every ill.

I can't argue that one, I agree 100%

I don't like the way tren makes me feel so I don't run it. I suppose I should give Tren Ace a try one of these days to see how it differs from the enanthate version - but it does something to my mood that really no other drug does.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Tren is a nasty ass drug designed for cattle. It does amazing things but at the risk of your health. If that's worth it to you, then that's what you have to deal with.

 

[semper03]

Bottom line. Tren is amazing, you should research a lot and have cycle history before running and already know the risks. I love the stuff and I put up with the side cause of that.

 

[stevesmi]

Tren is a nasty ass drug designed for cattle. It does amazing things but at the risk of your health. If that's worth it to you, then that's what you have to deal with.

i run only parabolan/tren hex now which was designed for humans well before ever being used on cattle. also my bloods come in clean after cycle every time. its all about running correct dosages and n2guard as you know.. i think people who get health problems from tren are those that run too high a dosages and people who have no business running AAS anyway cuz they aren't in shape

 

[Nelson Montana]

i run only parabolan/tren hex now which was designed for humans well before ever being used on cattle. also my bloods come in clean after cycle every time. its all about running correct dosages and n2guard as you know.. i think people who get health problems from tren are those that run too high a dosages and people who have no business running AAS anyway cuz they aren't in shape

Yes, Para was the human version but quicly taken off the market because of the kidney toxicity.

You're right about keeping dosages sane and taking precautions like using N2GUARD, but I'd still issue a strong caution to anyone looking to use it. It's only for the most advanced users and I wouldn't risk it once you're over 40 or so.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ my kidney values came in clean bro. I have no doubt though if abused it can have severe consequences. i wouldn't run it longer than 10-12 weeks at a time without a significant break in between. anyone who runs tren or any AAS should be doing bloodwork consistently to make sure no issues come up.

have you ever run tren before? how was your experience?

you probably have a good point that tren isn't a good idea to those older guys simply because of the strength gains which can put a lot of pressure on you old guys soft tissues, a lot of younger guys run it and end up hurt so i can't imagine what would happen to older guys

 

[scorpio0118]

I have been on tren for 2 weeks. 50mg Ed. Great gains, night sweats, and yes I catch my self being a little jumpy. No other major sides have bothered me. I am lucky I guess.
But when I do get irritable I remind myself why and realize that it is an unnatural, temporary state. Now I am 38 and have been lifting for 15 years. This is my second cycle ever (sorry stevesmi and I know your advice about tren) so far I am seeing amazing results, and my cardio is still strong.

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[ALIN]

Hello everyone i need some help regarding trenbolone's side effects.

First off let me say i am 29, 5 '10, 185 lbs, around 12% bf, training for 4 years and i ve done like 5-6 cycles before.

Now i ve started a cycle with TREN 300mg's/week Test 750 mgs/week TBOL 60mg's/day and EQ 400 mgs/week.

I have experience with all of that and i am sure that the only drug that fucks me up mentally & emotionally is TREN. I get angry, short tempered, paranoid and i have fucked up mood swings i cant control. I havent pinned for a week now just to see if i am right about it and i am much more calm and easy going. BUT..

I know no other drug is going to give me all of Trenbolone's positive properties. To get similar effects i should substitute it with Masteron (still causes a bit of anger as i heard) winny, primo anavar all together!

MY QUESTION IS: ANYONE FOUND A WAY WITHOUT TAKING OTHER HARSH DRUGS TO ELIMINATE OR AT LEAST MINIMIZE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL SIDES OF TREN? IF YES PLS HELP A TREN LOVER OUT, OTHERWISE I LL HAVE TO DROP IT..

You could try using it at minimal dosages.

 

[stevesmi]

I have been on tren for 2 weeks. 50mg Ed. Great gains, night sweats, and yes I catch my self being a little jumpy. No other major sides have bothered me. I am lucky I guess.
But when I do get irritable I remind myself why and realize that it is an unnatural, temporary state. Now I am 38 and have been lifting for 15 years. This is my second cycle ever (sorry stevesmi and I know your advice about tren) so far I am seeing amazing results, and my cardio is still strong.

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2 weeks is nothing.. wait till around week 5 and see what happens. ace starts working its magic around week 4 or 5 trust me.

 

[dusteefartz]

Around 4-5 weeks is when I really started to see the tren shine in me, But as I said before I don't get the night sweats like a lot of people claim...Yes..I wake up and my pillow is a little moist but thats about as far as it goes and tren has not affected my cardio in anyway. I still am able to do my 30-40 mins a day. What I am seeing this time around (4th cycle with tren) is that I am gaing lean muscle rather than really cutting up like I did last summer. I am still lean but I jumped 10 lbs since starting compared to last time I dropped in weight.

 

[scorpio0118]

2 weeks is nothing.. wait till around week 5 and see what happens. ace starts working its magic around week 4 or 5 trust me.

I can't imagine. I've already put on 10lbs. And looking leaner. I keep a picture log. People are already making comments like you look great. Complimenting my size and so on. I can't imagine what I'll look like in another 3 weeks.

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[UA_Iron]

Yes, Para was the human version but quicly taken off the market because of the kidney toxicity.

You're right about keeping dosages sane and taking precautions like using N2GUARD, but I'd still issue a strong caution to anyone looking to use it. It's only for the most advanced users and I wouldn't risk it once you're over 40 or so.

Interestingly enough halotestin is still on the market even with its known toxicity.

It makes me wonder what about tren was so awful that they pulled it from the market...

 

[stevesmi]

Interestingly enough halotestin is still on the market even with its known toxicity.

It makes me wonder what about tren was so awful that they pulled it from the market...

parabolan got pulled in 97 and the few lucky fucks that got to use it had a helluva good experience.

not sure why the french pharma company pulled it, maybe it was just too powerful

 

[Xandoz]

Just keep yourself calm if it is that big of a problem don't use it.

 

[The Suppleminator]