Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I had a question in my mind about tren and its ability to prevent bloat.. Im currently on tren e , bulking, my diet is really high in sodium and carbs .. Im not even watching my sodium intake.. I am getting notciable amounts of bloat on my face and other parts of my body but its nothing like the test moon face or whatever ..question is , can you still get bloated on tren if your diet is like the one im on currently or does tren remove bloat regardless of whatever you do?
Tren bloat
- Thread starter rohanum
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Why is your sodium so high?
Im bulking so i cbf with watching my sodium intake
Mate, bulking or not, you should always minimise sodium intake on cycle. Tren really increases your blood pressure, coupled with lots of sodium, and you have a recipe for disaster. Tren by itself does not prevent bloat, it doesn't aromatise and therefore does not cause bloating. If you want a steroid with anti-e properties DHT derivatives like Masteron and Proviron works. Are you running Test as well? I hope you are not running a tren only cycle. If you are on Test an AI would help with the bloat.
Bottom line take it easy on the sodium, even bulking keep it under 1500mg. Do what you will with carbs, but sodium has no place in building a solid physique.
Bottom line take it easy on the sodium, even bulking keep it under 1500mg. Do what you will with carbs, but sodium has no place in building a solid physique.
it is complete broscience that tren doesn't cause bloat in some people.
the reason being tren is a nutrition partitioner. and if you are insulin sensitive then you will react amazingly well to its nutrition partitioning effects and your strength and the scale will shoot up fast on it.
guys who claim I am wrong aren't insulin sensitive so they have no clue what many of us have to go through. if diabetes run in your family its more likely you are probably insulin sensitive and will have this reaction to tren. use it to your advantage if you want to build mass and strength fast, otherwise tren just isn't for you. use primo instead
the fact you are saying your diet is high in carbs confirms exactly that I am 100% correct. all those carbs are being shuttled into your muscles and causing a bloated look.
the reason being tren is a nutrition partitioner. and if you are insulin sensitive then you will react amazingly well to its nutrition partitioning effects and your strength and the scale will shoot up fast on it.
guys who claim I am wrong aren't insulin sensitive so they have no clue what many of us have to go through. if diabetes run in your family its more likely you are probably insulin sensitive and will have this reaction to tren. use it to your advantage if you want to build mass and strength fast, otherwise tren just isn't for you. use primo instead
the fact you are saying your diet is high in carbs confirms exactly that I am 100% correct. all those carbs are being shuttled into your muscles and causing a bloated look.
My weight is shooting up extremely fast on tren .. It didnt shoot up this fast on test (with all its water retention).. Ive gained 20 lbs in 4 weeks and my strength is getting through the roof , strength is up 10-30 lbs on all my lifts ..it increases dramatically with every workout. Keep in mind Ive been know tonreact very strongly to androgens .
Im assuming i can still use tren on a cut and get a lean , dry , shredded look on it if i minimize my carb intake ?
well 2 things.
depending on where you started from I can't be impressed with 20 pounds in 4 weeks. that is actually very dangerous what you are doing and your lipids are going to be grass
2nd re-read my prior post on insulin sensitivity on tren. if you reduce your carbs your sides will go through the roof IF you are truly insulin sensitive. so reducing carbs isn't an option in the first place IF you fit that mold.. does diabetes run in your family? if so its more likely you fit that
also how can you really think you will cut down on tren when you gained 20 pounds in 4 weeks? something as anabolic as tren is will grow you, not shrink you ... again you never listed your stats so I can't really delve into it deeper but I suspect you react well to the anabolism of tren, its not the androgens actually... BUT you might want to consider NOT running something anabolic in the future because look at the damage you are doing to your lipids and your soft tissues putting on so much mass so fast.
Yeah im using test at low doses .. Doing a 250 mg bi weekly shot . The bloat really isnt really even that noticable, face is a bit more swollen , i definitely dont look like a balloon though . To be honest I think the tren is doing a decent job at minimizing bloat . If i was natty and i was eating the way im eating atm then i would get a hell lot more bloated . What i dont understand is how the fuck am i gaining so much weight this is far more than what i gained on aromatizing stuff like test.
you obviously are not understanding what I am writing if you can't figure this out
tren is a nutrition partitioner. just like how injecting insulin will tell your body to start storing, tren does the same thing. remember tren is 5X more anabolic than testosterone and that isn't bullshit, its very legit. sometimes AAS on paper don't fit reality, tren does though
No , diabetes doesnt run in my family . Im not really sure if im sensitive to insulin .. How can i know if i am or if im not? I react well to both the androgenic part and the anabolic part .. I lost 3 % body fat on my last testosterone cycle , went from being 17% to 14% on a bulk.
I went off roids for 7 months and stopped training and dieting completely for 5 months so this might be a result of a combination of muscle memory and the trenbolone . Cut down on tren as in I meant if i went on a caloric defict.
Sorry i didnt see that response . I am aware of that . So this means i can not go through a cutting phase on tren ? I am starting to realize how strong tren really is . My stats are-
5'11
210 lbs , 12-13% bodyfat
My starting weight was 187 lbs ( note that i atrophied alot as i completely gave up on bodybuilding for 5 months )
^^^ the fact that you stopped training all that time and jumped on juice means we don't know anything except you had a lot of room to grow back from muscle memory
its that simple.
next time you should train and come back without juice, then one you build back your conditioning then you jump on juice.
your soft tissues are in big trouble
its that simple.
next time you should train and come back without juice, then one you build back your conditioning then you jump on juice.
your soft tissues are in big trouble
TheKid7
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Are you running a tren only cycle ??? Why in the world is your sodium so high... why do people even bother to dirty bulk anymore esp on tren seems like a waste of gear to me. What are your goals and what is your full cycle looking like? Assuming your not on an AI or prolactin Inh...
Tren can be used as a bulk and cutting agent as Steve said it basically increases nutrient uptake in cells and is very good if not the best at maintaining lean muscle and even adding it while in a caloric deficit. If this is your first time with tren giving everything else you've posted in this thread you are in for quite a ride..
I got a little reckless , i couldn't wait to get back on cycle , which i guess was foolish. But its still amazing , on my last cycle , at my peak i was a little over 200 lbs , now im hovering around 210 plus im alot less bloated and i havent increased in body fat % either. Thats is why i said i dont know how the fuck im gaining so much weight from something that isnt supposed to put on this much weight.
Can you please aware me on how ill be getting soft tissue problems if i keep this up? I havent really heard about this .. youll be doing me a huge favor.
As i said earlier i am using test with it .. Doing 250 mg bi weekly shots. This is my second cycle , im running 500 mgs of tren e . Again, as i said earlier i couldn't be fucked with keeping track of my sodium intake... Ive changed my mind about that im gonna lower it to avoid bp problems. So far i dont see the need to run anything on this cycle. I have literally 0 side effects other than some weird dreams .
when you gain 20 pounds and that much on your lifts as you wrote your soft tissues can't keep up
that's why its dumb to do what you did.. in reality you are setting yourself back cause you will start noticing chronic injuries start popping up
Oh right ..So to avoid problems with the joints and tendons im guessing i should take it easy in the gym?
No, you shouldn't be on juice. Juice allows us to lift heavier which builds bigger muscle. If your taking it easy you shouldn't be on juice which leads back to point number one.
TheKid7
New member
Actually your original post said you are experiencing bloat which is a side you stupid fuck. Also asked what AI your on if any, and what prolcatin inhib your on, if any. And Tren has many myths but also affects everyone differently. I've never heard it helps with bloat.
What do you mean by nutrion partitioner exactly? How does this work?
Elvia1023
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I would have to seriously be fucking my diet up to gain any bloat on tren. Like with all aas (especially tren) guys should be starting cycles as lean as possible. Tren can do amazing thing when someone has higher bf and his dieting. But to me tren is best used with high carbs (high carbs and high bf is not the best combo though). It burs through them (glucose metabolism). If you are lean it gets to a point were it almost feels like the more you eat on tren the leaner you get. Obviously that doesn't make sense but is due it's nutrient partitioning effects (especially carbs) and it's strong androgenic/anabolic effects. With the right timing of macros and a good training system you can literally transform in weeks on tren.
As great as Tren is, if your diet is fucked you can bloat on anything. You are getting glycogen super compensation within your muscle cells giving you the added scale weight and spillover from excess carbs (bloat). High sodium will cause water retention giving you bloat as well. Add in the fact that you had a huge layoff, and muscle memory combined with high androgens is throwing the weight on you fast. All this is why you have a huge scale number and the fullness you see. It is all very temporary and a vast majority is not actual muscle tissue. Don't expect it to stay around once you are off the Tren.
You definitely should not have got on juice so soon. You should have capitalized on muscle memory with the easy gains while strengthening your tendons and connective tissues before ever touching the juice. It's an easy way to get injured
You definitely should not have got on juice so soon. You should have capitalized on muscle memory with the easy gains while strengthening your tendons and connective tissues before ever touching the juice. It's an easy way to get injured
jumpmaster82
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99% of tren users will not get any kind of bloat, or "moon face" as we used to call it back in the day.
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You better start reading entire fucking threads before calling people 'stupid fucks' . That bloat is most likely because of my diet. I am not using any of that shit although i got it on hand . I think you are mistaking this for the kind of bloat testosterone cause. This is no where near that. This is so little calling it bloat feels like an over statement
please do not ever call a member on here 'a stupid fuck'
we don't act like that on here to each other. if you cannot avoid being a prick then find another forum.
this is the most interesting thing ive read... so are you saying if your insulin sensitive then tren doesnt work as good? or do you mean it works just as good but unfortunately comes with bloat?
diabetes does run in my family on my dads side, got bloods back and doc says im fine
not sure how to tell if im insulin sensitive?
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