Tren and CJC-1295 w/dac

[T R E N]

What's up guys? Here to get a little bit of input from you in regards to my next cycle.

I spent October, November, and December doing a pretty heavy bulk that consisted of Test, NPP, and Anadrol. Put on some really nice size. Now, I have been cruising on Test since January and plan to start my next cycle the 1st of March. This will be a cutting cycle.

My current plan is to run this for 20 weeks total;

Test - 250mg/week
Tren E - 400mg/week
CJC-1295 - 5mg/week
GW-50 - 20mg/day

A couple of questions..

1. What is the longest you have ran Tren? Also what support do you run with it to aid the body and lipid profile? Supps or drugs.

I have ran Tren for 14 weeks in the past with no issue.

2. Will my body desensitize from CJC like it does to things like hex? I don't really want to switch to mod-grf and pin myself 3-4 times a day.

Anything you guys would add to this? I have money to spend but want to keep it realistic.
Current stats
28
5'10
250
15-16%

 

[T R E N]

Most likely going to add 200mcg Huperzine-A 3x/day, and 500mcg Ipam before bed.

Any thoughts?

Also thinking about running IGF-1, but heard that is pointless with Tren.

 

[T R E N]

Feel like I'm talking to myself.

 

[EZ_E]

Chill out dude, people have lives.

This is a BIG cycle, I like the higher dose of tren to test. IMO 250-300 mg's of test is plenty if you're running other oils with it.

20 weeks is a LONG time for tren but if you've done it before with no issues....most guys advise caber or prami with tren.

As far as the pepetides, John Juan is the resident guru on them, hopefully he will chime in on that piece.

 

[GOTGrowth]

Longest for me is 48 weeks. I really watched my health and was getting bloodwork every 6-8 weeks. You can't sleep on it and after being on it so long you have to adjust back. Its a great drug don't get me wrong, but look at it as a step not a staple.

 

[T R E N]

48 weeks on Tren? That's a long time. What kind of support did you run with it?

Sorry EZ-E.. I just had to bump this thread from the bottom 2 times.

 

[RamboStallone]

I think you have a great plan here.

Longest I ran tren was 9 weeks, unfortunately this is the only steroid that gives me insane sides that I can't handle.

Add the huperzine A. You don't have to worry about desensitization with cjc dac.

If you are looking to add igf-LR3, dose it at 50mcgs prebed everynight or on workout days only. It is perfect with tren, the recomp will be great. It will suck up all the carbs and shuttle them into your muscles as you sleep. You will wake up leaner and fuller.

Another option is adding in MK-677 prebed at a low dose of 12.5mgs or even 25mgs, just depends on how you feel on it.

Definitely add the ipamorelin prebed of you have the funds, dose it at 500-1000mcgs. It will help immensely with recovery.

Hope that answers your questions. Let me know if you need additional help.

 

[T R E N]

Thanks for the response.

I was planning on dosing the IGF-1 preworkout in the morning, but you make it sound ideal to dose it before bed, especially when cutting. Can I dose the Ipam and IGF at the same time? I thought insulin would blunt the GH release?

 

[RamboStallone]

Thanks for the response.

I was planning on dosing the IGF-1 preworkout in the morning, but you make it sound ideal to dose it before bed, especially when cutting. Can I dose the Ipam and IGF at the same time? I thought insulin would blunt the GH release?

Igf1 will blunt your natural mgf post workout. So if you use it preworkout you will interfere with natural mgf which may or may not hinder gains, to be honest this subject is quite complicated because some will say who cares about natural mgf when you have igf1 in you system. This is why i recommended prebed, that way the interference is avoided.

Since igf1 will inhibit ghrps to some degree, I suggest you dose the ipamorelin first. Then wait 15-30 mins and pin the igf-LR3. This probably isn't as big of deal because the igf-LR3 won't be elevated enough yet.

 

[T R E N]

Great, thanks for the help.

Been doing some reading and thinking about running 800mg of EQ with this, and then 100mg daily of Anadrol for the first 50 days. Any thoughts?