Toss Your Bagged Spinach

[scorpiogirl]

Just watching GMA and a news report came on about a woman dying from eating contaminated bagged spinach. They have no way of tracking where it came from and there are 8 states that bag it. Hers was contaminated with E-coli.

Toss em and sub something else for a minute. Stores are pulliing it all off the shelves.........

 

[annieree]

Just watching GMA and a news report came on about a woman dying from eating contaminated bagged spinach. They have no way of tracking where it came from and there are 8 states that bag it. Hers was contaminated with E-coli.

Toss em and sub something else for a minute. Stores are pulliing it all off the shelves.........

Doesn't e-coli depend on how it is stored?

I remember when I was in hospital they threw away my bagged lettuce because it wasn't kept refrigerated. (Maybe I'm talking about something completely different)

 

[*Bunny*]

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/salads.htm

Guess whose been eating this last two days ...



and here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12536902/

 

[musclemom]

Doesn't e-coli depend on how it is stored?

I remember when I was in hospital they threw away my bagged lettuce because it wasn't kept refrigerated. (Maybe I'm talking about something completely different)

Oh there's LOTS of bacteria that contaminate food, some more common ones are listeria, which is generally associated with deli/prepackaged meats. Botulinum is the one that comes from spoiled canned goods (and yes, it is where Botox came from). Salmonella is associated mostly with chickens/eggs (the old undercooked chicken/bad potato salad scenarios).

E. coli infection generally comes from exposure to contaminated fecal material, short and sweet. If waste got into the water the spinach was washed in after picking, that would be one route of contamination (there's a lot of others, frankly they're pretty much disgusting and it's just not morning conversation).

There's more than one variety of e. coli, they are all naturally occuring bacteria that live in the bowels of a lot of animals, humans included. It's when it ends up somewhere it SHOULDN'T be, that it causes problems and runs rampant.

 

[musclemom]

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/salads.htm

Guess whose been eating this last two days ...



and here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12536902/

Try not to worry Buns, seriously. We get exposed to this stuff (foreign bacteria on food) constantly. Even if, in the EXTREMELY low event you consumed the "baddies," you don't automatically become infected. The people who are MOST likely to be infected are those with less, let's say vigilent immune systems (very young people, who's immune systems don't have enough wanted posters up, and very old people) and, believe it or not, people who take antacids or have generally poor digestion -- our stomach acids are also a line of defense. If we got sick every time we swallowed some bacteria our species never would have made it this far

 

[annieree]

Try not to worry Buns, seriously. We get exposed to this stuff (foreign bacteria on food) constantly. Even if, in the EXTREMELY low event you consumed the "baddies," you don't automatically become infected. The people who are MOST likely to be infected are those with less, let's say vigilent immune systems (very young people, who's immune systems don't have enough wanted posters up, and very old people) and, believe it or not, people who take antacids or have generally poor digestion -- our stomach acids are also a line of defense. If we got sick every time we swallowed some bacteria our species never would have made it this far

I suppose the best way to look at it is - if a kid can eat a mouthful of mud and survive we can eat a spot of bacteria.

 

[Roonytunes]

Guess what I packed for meal 4 today...3 cups of bagged spinach in my salad! On the upside, I've been eating out of this bag all week and haven't had problems thus far, so I should be okay <fingers crossed>

 

[H_T_]

some of my favorite words are in this thread title.

 

[scorpiogirl]

So far there are 94 cases of illness and 1 death and the number is expected to grow......just an fyi.....listening to the news right now. It's coast to coast not just in a certain region.

 

[Sassy69]

I went into a Kroger's last night looking for spinach - NONE. Ended up w/ romaine hearts.

 

[jenscats5]

I went into a Kroger's last night looking for spinach - NONE. Ended up w/ romaine hearts.

They've been pulling it from the shelves according to the news.....

And E.Coli doesn't depend on storage as MM said......

Ooops! Didn't see this thread B4 I made one.....

 

[musclemom]

I suppose the best way to look at it is - if a kid can eat a mouthful of mud and survive we can eat a spot of bacteria.

Oh hell yeah!!! Absolutely!

The best thing a parent can do is LET a kid get dirty, seriously. It's a fact that the kids whose parents are obsessed with germicidal soaps and keeping their kids uber clean and ultra safe grow up to have a lot of allergies later in life. It seems that it's better if your immune system learns what to look out for when you're young.

Generally speaking, the grubbier kids, the ones who play outside, get down in the mud, wrestle with the dog and share their ice cream with him, chew the gum they find under tables and eat food that hit the floor grow up to be healthier people.

 

[jenscats5]

Oh hell yeah!!! Absolutely!

The best thing a parent can do is LET a kid get dirty, seriously. It's a fact that the kids whose parents are obsessed with germicidal soaps and keeping their kids uber clean and ultra safe grow up to have a lot of allergies later in life. It seems that it's better if your immune system learns what to look out for when you're young.

Generally speaking, the grubbier kids, the ones who play outside, get down in the mud, wrestle with the dog and share their ice cream with him, chew the gum they find under tables and eat food that hit the floor grow up to be healthier people.

A healthy immune system is nothing to sneeze at!! Get it??

 

[H_T_]

it's because of filthy workers urinating & defecating in the products. nasty ass pickers.

 

[musclemom]

it's because of filthy workers urinating & defecating in the products. nasty ass pickers.

I was trying to avoid saying that Toilet facilities are not provided or so far from the harvest location that there is no other place to go, or no time to go. When you're paid by the pound for what you harvest, 10 minutes to run across a field (have you ever tried to cross a field on foot? Trust me, not easy) to go to the latrine represents several pounds of lost picking time, which means less money for your family.

Additionally, I wonder if manufacturers actually use 1000s of gallons of pure, fresh water that they would need to wash vegetables. I imagine that they recycle a LOT of water used for "washing" without using basic decontamination/purification.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I heard this was possibly due to a well that overflowed and contaminated the field. Washing would do nothing because once it was in the soil, it went into the roots to of the plants and INTO the leaves. Not on the OUTSIDE, rather the INSIDE of the plants.

 

[musclemom]

I heard this was possibly due to a well that overflowed and contaminated the field. Washing would do nothing because once it was in the soil, it went into the roots to of the plants and INTO the leaves. Not on the OUTSIDE, rather the INSIDE of the plants.

That does not sound logical ... plants do not absorb E. Coli, it's an aerobic bacteria, it cannot live inside a plant. Flatulence is one of the byproducts of the digestive process of the bacteria, ergo, the spinach would blow up.

Sounds to me like propagando, because frankly e. coli is related bacteria that are in the soil already. Soil is NOT a sterile medium, it's loaded with all sorts of critters bacteria and microbes (if it weren't, it would be dead matter and nothing would grow in it). Just like WE're loaded with bacteria, viruses and microbes that make up the microcosm of our bodies. Bacteria are what digest our food, without them we would absorb no nutrients.

 

[scorpiogirl]

That does not sound logical ... plants do not absorb E. Coli, it's an aerobic bacteria, it cannot live inside a plant. Flatulence is one of the byproducts of the digestive process of the bacteria, ergo, the spinach would blow up.

Sounds to me like propagando, because frankly e. coli is related bacteria that are in the soil already. Soil is NOT a sterile medium, it's loaded with all sorts of critters bacteria and microbes (if it weren't, it would be dead matter and nothing would grow in it). Just like WE're loaded with bacteria, viruses and microbes that make up the microcosm of our bodies. Bacteria are what digest our food, without them we would absorb no nutrients.

Lady - you ROCK! lol Always a wealth of great info. I think I learn something from every post you put up! lol

 

[musclemom]

Lady - you ROCK! lol Always a wealth of great info. I think I learn something from every post you put up! lol

Oh, you are too sweet ... you know, this is weird, this is the second international board, that I belong to, that I've seen that information on.

Obviously there is some sort of active campaign going to ... ummm, plant ideas in people's minds ...

 

[scorpiogirl]

Oh, you are too sweet ... you know, this is weird, this is the second international board, that I belong to, that I've seen that information on.

Obviously there is some sort of active campaign going to ... ummm, plant ideas in people's minds ...

What info are you refering to....the flooded field?

 

[Daisy_Girl]

That does not sound logical ... plants do not absorb E. Coli, it's an aerobic bacteria, it cannot live inside a plant. Flatulence is one of the byproducts of the digestive process of the bacteria, ergo, the spinach would blow up.

Sounds to me like propagando, because frankly e. coli is related bacteria that are in the soil already. Soil is NOT a sterile medium, it's loaded with all sorts of critters bacteria and microbes (if it weren't, it would be dead matter and nothing would grow in it). Just like WE're loaded with bacteria, viruses and microbes that make up the microcosm of our bodies. Bacteria are what digest our food, without them we would absorb no nutrients.

Hey, it is what the TV told me. And the TV would never lie to me, right?

 

[musclemom]

Hey, it is what the TV told me. And the TV would never lie to me, right?

I actually saw the piece you're talking about on CNN.Com.

T.V. would NEVER lie to you

... and don't forget, the check is in the mail, too ...