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Today I was discriminated against.

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I was filling out my application for Seton Hall, and it listed all the scholarships they offer. There were a couple that siad they were only available to minorities. Since I am white, it is impossible for me to get these scholarships. They are based on race, and my race is excluded. If I am correct, that is racism. Is it not? What should I do?
 
How come there arent any scholarships for white people only? If there were, the minorities would complain and get rid of them.

It is only fair, that if they have a minority only scholarship, they should have white only scholarships.
 
I don't know if there is a pollitically correct answer to this one, but it's been asked many of times. It's kind of like asking why there are networks like Lifetime, and WE (Women's Entertainment), but no network which specifically claims to be for men.
 
IMO this is definatley discrimination against whites. Seton Hall also have an affirmitive action program. That is also BS. They should take people soly on how good of a student they are. If they have to take a certain number of people from each race, than the more qualified students dont necicarley get in.
 
You know its just like asking why is there a black miss america, as far as i can see the regular miss america doesnt leave out any black woman. or asking where is white entertainment televison, we have bet where is wet?? i could go on and on but im sure you get the point. im not racist, i have black, mexican... all kinds of freinds ive dated black females( and it was great) but i still dont see any reasons to have theses segrgated things.
 
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downsent,

I agree. If whites had their own stuff, than the blacks would get it taken away.

Warik,

LMAO. It is the truth too.
 
2Thick said:
Please answer these questions for me BOS:

What percentage of the American population is black?

And

How many members of the US Senate are Black?

1. Too much. j/k dont want to get booted.

2. Dont know.
 
Balls of Steel said:


1. Too much. j/k dont want to get booted.

2. Dont know.



1.) 12%

2.) 2 out of 100

That means that 2% of the Senate are black but blacks make up 12% of the national population.

Unless you believe that black people are genetically inferior to white people (which is not the case) then there is some sort of institutional discrimination at play.

That is why some scholarships are only for minorities...to make up for the disparity.
 
Wow. No response to Warik? C'mon 2thick, I was hoping for a good lashing. Now I might just have to go to bed so I can get up early. Fucking cardio :mad:
 
SAT scores show that in general whites do posess a higher level of reasoning. Im sure there are other figures that also suggest this. Same for minorities.
 
I am not a racist. I just think whites should have the same oppourtuniteys as other races.
 
2Thick said:
That means that 2% of the Senate are black but blacks make up 12% of the national population.

What does this have to do with anything? How many blacks run for the Senate? How many blacks don't run against an impossible to defeat opponent?

Meaningless statistics that do not have remotely anything to do with discriminatory minority scholarships. Take them elsewhere.

(Note: I do not disagree with discriminatory minority scholarships that are privately funded. I do, however, disagree with publically funded discriminatory minority scholarships, which do exist, and with the fact that majority-only-type scholarships, privately funded or otherwise, would not survive more than a day.)

That is all.

-Warik
 
2Thick said:




1.) 12%

2.) 2 out of 100

That means that 2% of the Senate are black but blacks make up 12% of the national population.

Unless you believe that black people are genetically inferior to white people (which is not the case) then there is some sort of institutional discrimination at play.

That is why some scholarships are only for minorities...to make up for the disparity.

If you look at the urban, densly-populated centers with large proportions of minorities, I would imagine the correlating House districts are filled by similar numbers of minorites. Just a thought.
 
Warik said:


What does this have to do with anything? How many blacks run for the Senate? How many blacks don't run against an impossible to defeat opponent?

Meaningless statistics that do not have remotely anything to do with discriminatory minority scholarships. Take them elsewhere.



-Warik

These stats are very relevant. The senators represent the people in their respective states. This means that there is not equal representation.
 
downsent said:
You know its just like asking why is there a black miss america, as far as i can see the regular miss america doesnt leave out any black woman. or asking where is white entertainment televison, we have bet where is wet?? i could go on and on but im sure you get the point. im not racist, i have black, mexican... all kinds of freinds ive dated black females( and it was great) but i still dont see any reasons to have theses segrgated things.

There is no such thing as a "Black Miss America Pageant". If Miss America happens to be a Black Woman, she would be identified as "Miss America who happens to be Black". White people always have to make that an issue for some reason (that Miss America just so happens to be Black).
 
That's funny, I talked about this same thing in Steel Beast's "Can You Please Explain:lack Of Income And Affect On Learning Ability And Opportunity."

Most white people get railroaded and aren't able to get shit for scholarships.
 
J-Ro said:
That's funny, I talked about this same thing in Steel Beast's "Can You Please Explain:lack Of Income And Affect On Learning Ability And Opportunity."

Most white people get railroaded and aren't able to get shit for scholarships.

The only reason most white people can't get a scholarships is because most white people do not qualify for them.
 
statistically the murder rate goes up as the sale of icecream increases. according to the statistics we should quit selling icecream.
 
Excuse me the miss black usa, which is hyped as the black miss america. where the hell is the miss white usa? And pretaining to the 2% of blacks in the senate, it doesnt mean any sort of racism is going on it means that they dont get elected or for that matter run, it the population percetage is 12 for blacks youd think more would be in office if all the blacks voted, so mabey just mabey some of those blacks are voting for whites... becaues for whatever reason they agree with them.. or they dont vote at all which is there fault. Are we supposed to inact some sort of affirmative action for are goverment? Which by the way affirmative action is just reverse racism.
 
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GladiusNova said:
I can't beleive a bunch of White Guys are crying about not getting equal opportunity of scholarship funds! Boo fucking Hoo!!


discrimination is discrimination, whether its against blacks or whites.
what if a white guy from a trashy trailor park in a poor family needed a scholarship due to his poverty and he was denied just on the fact that he was not a minority.
 
2Thick said:


These stats are very relevant. The senators represent the people in their respective states. This means that there is not equal representation.

The top 10% of income earners pay more than 50% of the taxes and their votes count the same as those who pay no tax at all.

This means that there is not equal representation.

-Warik
 
spongebob said:
statistically the murder rate goes up as the sale of icecream increases. according to the statistics we should quit selling icecream.

That is some good logical deduction. Too bad intelligent people know to weed out the spurious variables. If you don't know what that means then I suggest you write your Congressman so he can ban ice cream.
 
2Thick said:


That is some good logical deduction. Too bad intelligent people know to weed out the spurious variables. If you don't know what that means then I suggest you write your Congressman so he can ban ice cream.

LOL @ 2Thick
 
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spongebob said:



discrimination is discrimination, whether its against blacks or whites.
what if a white guy from a trashy trailor park in a poor family needed a scholarship due to his poverty and he was denied just on the fact that he was not a minority.

If he is poor enough then he qualifies for financial aid. If he is smart enough, he will quality for a scholarship.
 
2thick are you saying that all white people have it easy? boo fucking hoo this, if the majority of the country is white then the majority in poverty is also white, look at all the rural poor. I Bust my ass to go to college my parents are poor im poor and yet where is are help where is are group looking out for the best intrest of us where is all the specia; help and exceptions for me? theres the naacp and any number of other groups looking out for the intrest of other peoples, im not racist but revese racsim is still racsim.
 



These stats are very relevant. The senators represent the people in their respective states. This means that there is not equal representation.



the key phrase: the senators represent the PEOPLE in thier respective states.

blacks aren't people?


we need to get away from sticking people into groups or racism will never go away.
 
2Thick said:
They pay more because they make more. They pay exactly the same as everyone else (relatively speaking).

Very well, I'll play your game.

Black senators - they win less because they run less.

They pay exactly the same as everyone else? Not only do they pay more in dollar amounts, but they also pay more percentage-wise. Hardly the same.

"They pay more because they make more" "They pay exactly the same" I'm impressed, 2Thick. You've never said two dunderheaded things in the same post before. Usually it takes 2 or 3 posts before the blatant contradiction emerges. Imagine that!

Finally, if you admit that they pay more, shouldn't they have more representation? I think Bill Gates' vote should count more than Harry the Hobo's vote since Bill Gates actually contributes to society.

-Warik
 
downsent said:
2thick are you saying that all white people have it easy? boo fucking hoo this, if the majority of the country is white then the majority in poverty is also white, look at all the rural poor. I Bust my ass to go to college my parents are poor im poor and yet where is are help where is are group looking out for the best intrest of us where is all the specia; help and exceptions for me? theres the naacp and any number of other groups looking out for the intrest of other peoples, im not racist but revese racsim is still racsim.

If you are poor then you qualify for financial aid. If you are smart then you qualify for scholarships.

What else do you want?
 
Warik said:



"They pay more because they make more" "They pay exactly the same" I'm impressed, 2Thick. You've never said two dunderheaded things in the same post before. Usually it takes 2 or 3 posts before the blatant contradiction emerges. Imagine that!

-Warik

If you want to quote me then quote everything I said. I said "relatively speaking".

So, your argument is faulted.
 
2Thick said:


That is some good logical deduction. Too bad intelligent people know to weed out the spurious variables. If you don't know what that means then I suggest you write your Congressman so he can ban ice cream.


i know exactly what it means, my only point is that statistics can be misleading.
 
Warik said:


Very well, I'll play your game.

Black senators - they win less because they run less.


In order to run for a seat, you have to be chosen by your party to be a candidate. Boom, discrimination!

Finally, if you admit that they pay more, shouldn't they have more representation? I think Bill Gates' vote should count more than Harry the Hobo's vote since Bill Gates actually contributes to society.

-Warik

They pay exactly the same percentage wise. Therefore, they have the same amount of representation.
 
2Thick said:


That is some good logical deduction. Too bad intelligent people know to weed out the spurious variables. If you don't know what that means then I suggest you write your Congressman so he can ban ice cream.

just curious, do you know what the spurious variables are in these statistics.
 
spongebob said:




blacks aren't people?



What are they then? Oh, their skin just happens to be a different color than ours, that means we are BETTER and deserve MORE SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS.

Ignorance is the root of all EVIL, and you display that "quality" quite well.
 
GladiusNova said:


What are they then? Oh, their skin just happens to be a different color than ours, that means we are BETTER and deserve MORE SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS.

Ignorance is the root of all EVIL, and you display that "quality" quite well.

I believe that was a question, not a statement. Try actually reading the post before you flame. You took that question completely out of the context of this post.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


I believe that was a question, not a statement. Try actually reading the post before you flame. You took that question completely out of the context of this post.

Yeah..sorry..I just realized that after I hit the old post reply button. I guess now everyone will flame ME for ALL my posts from here to now on huh?
 
Hey 2think i now see my mistake my anger should have been directed at gladiusnova, i saw his comment by your name and poped, i was submiting my post before i knew what i did, and to gladiusnova, im white and i have no problem with a black miss america, i wanna know why there needs to be a pagent specifically for blacks, with equall pestige, I'v noted the way it is talked up and presented.. its just odd to me. thanx for taking an intrest in my comments though. I enjoy the debate.
 
GladiusNova said:


Yeah..sorry..I just realized that after I hit the old post reply button. I guess now everyone will flame ME for ALL my posts from here to now on huh?

I wouldn't see why they would. I just wanted to make sure that the poster was not labeled a racist for stating that black people were not people,when actually asking a question.
 
GladiusNova said:


Yeah..sorry..I just realized that after I hit the old post reply button. I guess now everyone will flame ME for ALL my posts from here to now on huh?

ive already flamed you, but please disregard it
 
spongebob said:


ive already flamed you, but please disregard it

You know what man...I won't disregard it...too late....and I won't apologize. How about you don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to your posts from now on since I'm such an "idiot".
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


I wouldn't see why they would. I just wanted to make sure that the poster was not labeled a racist for stating that black people were not people,when actually asking a question.


thank you BC, i am by no means a racist!
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


I wouldn't see why they would. I just wanted to make sure that the poster was not labeled a racist for stating that black people were not people,when actually asking a question.

...but you didn't have to be so cocky about it! Oh, sorry...I see you're a "pro bodybuilder". Excuse me for infringing on your seniority.
 
2Thick said:
They pay exactly the same percentage wise. Therefore, they have the same amount of representation.

Mr. Gates is required to pay 39.6%, Mr. Hobo is required to pay 0%.

I don't follow.

-Warik
 
GladiusNova said:


...but you didn't have to be so cocky about it! Oh, sorry...I see you're a "pro bodybuilder". Excuse me for infringing on your seniority.

What the fuck are you talking about now. The number of posts I have has nothing to do with the thread. You got all bitchy at spongebob for something he did not even say and I simply called you on your mistake. So fuck you.
 
GladiusNova said:


You know what man...I won't disregard it...too late....and I won't apologize. How about you don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to your posts from now on since I'm such an "idiot".


you call me a racist, and now this. jeez.
 
2Thick said:


They pay exactly the same percentage wise.

That would be called a flat tax. We don't have that.

10% of 10,000 is 1,000.
30% of 100,00 is 30,000.

Those numbers, while only used for arguments sake b/c its late for me, don't seem the same or "fair" to me.

A flat tax which we should have would look something like this:

10% of 10,000 is 1,000
10% of 100,000 is 1,0000
10% of 1,000,000 is 100,000

Those numbers seem a little more "fair". With that I'm off to bed.
 
downsent said:
Hey 2think i now see my mistake my anger should have been directed at gladiusnova, i saw his comment by your name and poped, i was submiting my post before i knew what i did, and to gladiusnova, im white and i have no problem with a black miss america, i wanna know why there needs to be a pagent specifically for blacks, with equall pestige, I'v noted the way it is talked up and presented.. its just odd to me. thanx for taking an intrest in my comments though. I enjoy the debate.

Why not? Does it bother you that much? That's the problem here. You guys are just arguing just to hear yourseves arguing! Over useless shit!! All the benefits, pagents (sp), scholarships, TV channels, Congressman, Senators, PRESIDENTS, etc....White People have, and it seems like you all STILL aren't satisfied until EVERY LAST PERSON on this planet is WHITE!!!!...and then you still will find something to complain about! I'm White also, and I have a lot nore to worry about than whether or not I will qualify for some fucking scholarship that is centered around "being Black to qualify"! If you aren't Black, then apply for any of the other 10,000 scholarships out there!
 
2Thick said:


You pay nothing only if you make less than 4k (I think).

That is barely enough to buy a cup of coffee per day.

You don't follow because it is not comparable.

Harry the Hobo lives on the street and earns a living by begging for quarters. He voted in the presidential election because supports of the Democratic party offered him cigarettes and gave him a ride to the polls.

It's ok, though, I'll continue to play your silly game.

Bill Gates's 39.6% required tax rate vs. Average Lower Class Family's required 15% tax rate. Average Lower Class Family's required tax rate is 15%, but Bill Gate's is required to pay 2.64 times what they are required to pay (percentage-wise); therefore, Bill Gates does not have equal representation because his vote should count for 2.64 while Average Lower Class Family's vote should only count for 1.

-Warik
 
GladiusNova said:


...but you didn't have to be so cocky about it! Oh, sorry...I see you're a "pro bodybuilder". Excuse me for infringing on your seniority.



what country are you from GladiusNova?
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


What the fuck are you talking about now. The number of posts I have has nothing to do with the thread. You got all bitchy at spongebob for something he did not even say and I simply called you on your mistake. So fuck you.

The reason why I called you out is because you made it a point to "correct" my mistake rather that applying your input to the post at hand THEN making the correction! So fuck you too!
 
GladiusNova said:


The reason why I called you out is because you made it a point to "correct" my mistake rather that applying your input to the post at hand THEN making the correction! So fuck you too!

I do not need to put my opinions into this post. I would be saying the exact same things that you are. I agree with you on this particular issue. You are the one being a bitch about it, not me. I was done after my post explaining why I corrected you.
 
Warik said:


Harry the Hobo lives on the street and earns a living by begging for quarters. He voted in the presidential election because supports of the Democratic party offered him cigarettes and gave him a ride to the polls.

It's ok, though, I'll continue to play your silly game.

Bill Gates's 39.6% required tax rate vs. Average Lower Class Family's required 15% tax rate. Average Lower Class Family's required tax rate is 15%, but Bill Gate's is required to pay 2.64 times what they are required to pay (percentage-wise); therefore, Bill Gates does not have equal representation because his vote should count for 2.64 while Average Lower Class Family's vote should only count for 1.

-Warik

You need a stable address to register to vote. Therefore the hobo can't vote.

If you charged the average family any more then they would be forced to depend on the state because they would not have enough to survive. If you calculate the other types of tax such as sales tax then the average person pays more than those rich folks because more of their net income goes towards essentials such as food, rent, utilities...etc.
 
2Thick said:


Because more ice cream is sold in the summer and more murders are committed in the summer.


correct, the heat makes people mad. maybe we should all start posting during winter months.
 
They pay exactly the same percentage wise. Therefore, they have the same amount of representation.

Do you mean to tell me you have no idea that a person making 100,000 a year pay more of a percentage of their income to taxes then a person making 20,000 a year??? Geez you are "thick" .
 
GladiusNova said:


Why...I said I was WHITE...isn't that enough for the majority here?


no, i was just wondering because the way you misinterpreted my post and the way you jumped on BO-C, makes me think your from another country. sometimes people from other countries dont understand ou way of putting sentences together or they take comments as insults the way you did with BO-C.
 
2think - why do you even bother? Some of these people on here have an IQ well below their shoe-size.

icecream and murder rate ... jesus h christ. whoever posted that is one dumb fuck. no offense.
 
spongebob said:



no, i was just wondering because the way you misinterpreted my post and the way you jumped on BO-C, makes me think your from another country. sometimes people from other countries dont understand ou way of putting sentences together or they take comments as insults the way you did with BO-C.

Don't worry about him. He doesn't like me anyway, so he will take any chance he can to flame me. I tried to be civil with correcting him, but he just hates to be wrong.
 
Gladius, why dont you pull your head from you ass and hear me, not put words in my mouth. 1. there are not 10,000 other scholarships out there for me to get. There are especially none just caues im white, unlike if i was black, mexican any "minority". 2. you say i compalin to here my self, and want all to be white, where'd you get that, seems to me you dont even understand the point im makeing, of a double standard here in america, that is not only practiced but advocated to such an extant that it became a law, afirmative action. I bring up these points becaues if whites had there own it is racist and said to just be furthering seperation between whites and everyone else, but when blacks and other minorites have them, its not. And to your comment white people have it all, thats not true, in this day and age thats completly wrong. Do you pay attention to what goes on in this country..mabey you should
 
talonracer said:


Do you mean to tell me you have no idea that a person making 100,000 a year pay more of a percentage of their income to taxes then a person making 20,000 a year??? Geez you are "thick" .

There is a reason for the disparity (which I explained above). I said relatively speaking but maybe you didn't catch that...
 
freshr1 said:
2think - why do you even bother? Some of these people on here have an IQ well below their shoe-size.

icecream and murder rate ... jesus h christ. whoever posted that is one dumb fuck. no offense.



oh, weell enlighten us old wise one.
that was to make a point that statistics can be decieving, read all the fucking post. and by the way its true you "dumbfuck"
 
I was filling out my application for Seton Hall, and it listed all the scholarships they offer. There were a couple that siad they were only available to minorities. Since I am white, it is impossible for me to get these scholarships. They are based on race, and my race is excluded. If I am correct, that is racism. Is it not? What should I do?

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it depends on how you define words like 'racist' or 'racism'. your definition of racism may be any time a double standard is imposed and race is a pivotal issue. some people consider it racism anytime a minority isn't given compensation for his repression. so you have opposing definitions for the same word.

complain about it, i guess. there was a white guy who wanted to go to a black only school once (i can't remember the details, i.e. what type of college, where it was, when this was). he was finally let in.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


Don't worry about him. He doesn't like me anyway, so he will take any chance he can to flame me. I tried to be civil with correcting him, but he just hates to be wrong.

This is the fucking internet! I don't even know you! But I know you well enough to say FUCK OFF (YOU)!!...remember those words...you said them first. By the way, I said I was sorry for MY mistake, but you seem to want to revert to name calling and flame wars. I won't take any chance to flame you...only when you come at me with NEGATIVE words...then I will have to apply wrath.
 
GladiusNova said:


This is the fucking internet! I don't even know you! But I know you well enough to say FUCK OFF (YOU)!!...remember those words...you said them first. By the way, I said I was sorry for MY mistake, but you seem to want to revert to name calling and flame wars. I won't take any chance to flame you...only when you come at me with NEGATIVE words...then I will have to apply wrath.

HERE ARE MY TWO POSTS ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE:

BO-CEPHUS said:


I believe that was a question, not a statement. Try actually reading the post before you flame. You took that question completely out of the context of this post.

BO-CEPHUS said:


I wouldn't see why they would. I just wanted to make sure that the poster was not labeled a racist for stating that black people were not people,when actually asking a question.

I DID NOT CALL YOU ANY NAMES IN THOSE TWO POST. SO I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STARTED IN WITH CALLING ME COCKY FOR CORRECTING YOU.
 
downsent said:
Gladius, why dont you pull your head from you ass and hear me, not put words in my mouth. 1. there are not 10,000 other scholarships out there for me to get. There are especially none just caues im white, unlike if i was black, mexican any "minority". 2. you say i compalin to here my self, and want all to be white, where'd you get that, seems to me you dont even understand the point im makeing, of a double standard here in america, that is not only practiced but advocated to such an extant that it became a law, afirmative action. I bring up these points becaues if whites had there own it is racist and said to just be furthering seperation between whites and everyone else, but when blacks and other minorites have them, its not. And to your comment white people have it all, thats not true, in this day and age thats completly wrong. Do you pay attention to what goes on in this country..mabey you should

Who controls America? White or Black?

Whites had the upper hand at first right? Blacks were the slaves to the Whites, no rights. They are in constant motion to "work themselves up to equals" because of how they were brought to America 400 years ago. They have the right to "have their own". They are the minority, and the minority has to maintain certain benefits exclussively (sp) for them until they are considered "equal". Whites have EVERYTHING!!! They are even the fucking football team punters for "all" Black colleges now....PLAYING ON A SCHOLARSHIP THAT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED FOR BLACKS!!! Have you ever heard of "Gramblings White Tiger"?
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


HERE ARE MY TWO POSTS ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE:





I DID NOT CALL YOU ANY NAMES IN THOSE TWO POST. SO I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STARTED IN WITH CALLING ME COCKY FOR CORRECTING YOU.

"Cocky" isn't name calling (noun)...it's a verb (action).

Did you even read what I posted about you and your "priorities on posting"?
 
GladiusNova said:


Who controls America? White or Black?

Whites had the upper hand at first right? Blacks were the slaves to the Whites, no rights. They are in constant motion to "work themselves up to equals" because of how they were brought to America 400 years ago. They have the right to "have their own". They are the minority, and the minority has to maintain certain benefits exclussively (sp) for them until they are considered "equal". Whites have EVERYTHING!!! They are even the fucking football team punters for "all" Black colleges now....PLAYING ON A SCHOLARSHIP THAT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED FOR BLACKS!!! Have you ever heard of "Gramblings White Tiger"?



just remember that this is only your opinion.
 
spongebob said:




just remember that this is only your opinion.

You cannot sit here and tell me everything in my last post is NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has nothing to do with "an opinion"!!!!!!!
 
Good go white punters, why should there be, "for only "white or black schools, scolarships, anything. Yes whits were in controll and I belive that was all evil and wrong but I am not resposible, and this is a new age. FOr equality to occure, both groups need to have the same thing. So For there to be a only black scolarship or only black, and im not just ragging in blacks im just trying to use the predominant groups in america, white and black, shows that the group doesnt want eqaulity they want special privleiges. Thats not how you creat equallity for anyone. Minorities are catred to. Becaues everyone is afarid of stepping on their toes. Thats bulshit Im an american just like anyone else and I deserve equall tretment. Just beaues Whites controlled all before doesnt mean I need to be 2nd class now. And whose to say whites controll America? Just becaues the majority of our goverment is white? Mabey blacks and other minorities are voting for whites, did you ever think of that. And mabey blacks and other minorities are not even voting. Its been studied and the majority of the voting pop. is white, are we going to have affirmative action in goverment?
 
GladiusNova said:



They have the right to "have their own". They are the minority, and the minority has to maintain certain benefits exclussively (sp) for them until they are considered "equal".

this is an opinion.
 
everything you preach is not fact, your set in you opinion and you refuse to buge. You r going on and on about whites are in controll prove it. Solid evidence, hell evidence thats built on jello if you want, just get evidence. :)
 
GladiusNova said:
Whites have EVERYTHING!!! They are even the fucking football team punters for "all" Black colleges now....PLAYING ON A SCHOLARSHIP THAT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED FOR BLACKS!!! Have you ever heard of "Gramblings White Tiger"?

I'm sitting here trying to understand what a white punter has to do with anything. And to say that ALL black colleges ALL have white punters is a gross overgeneralization. Has it ever occured to you that maybe the punters are on the team because they can kick?? If the kicker was black, you would not even notice them, but you are apparently angered by seeing one white player on an all black team, I guess you want all black, all the time. This is a common attitude by many African Americans. I take it that you are for segregation??

And yea, I've heard of Grambling, aren't they the team that lost something like 400 straight football games??? maybe they should open their doors to all races instead of trying to create their own subculture. The funny thing is, colleges like Grambling are ridiculously easy to get into, yet they still make as much money as whites who graduate from a much more prestigous school.

Have you heard of Texas Southern University Law School?? The AVERAGE GPA to get in is 2.4, that means you can almost fail out of college and still get into law school. The average LSAT is also one of the lowest averages in the nation. Yet, despite these ridiculous requirements, TSU graduates still manage to land extremely high paying jobs, assuming they pass the bar exam that is. I think only 70% of TSU grads pass the bar exam compared to 99% of other schools in Texas. What is a good response to this?? Civil rights leaders bitching about the BAR exam not being equal for minorities. It all makes sense in the end.
 
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spongebob said:


this is an opinion.

OK Einstein...take that "opinion" and prove me wrong then. Take in consideration your own beleifs which I do hope you have good legitimate points to prove your "facts".
 
Why do minorities have to mantain benifits exclusivly? Is this not the land of equallity. If that is the case again I say where is the white entertainment network, or the white only schools, or the white onle scolarships? That all went out years ago caues it was RACIST!!!! I don't want any of these things but I want to be able to be equall, not just kinda of equall, where minorities get more caues there minorities.. and whos to say to white is the majority anymore anyway?
 
GladiusNova said:


They have the right to "have their own". They are the minority, and the minority has to maintain certain benefits exclussively (sp) for them until they are considered "equal".

the "opinion" is that YOU believe that they should have this right.
other people dont believe this.
 
GladiusNova said:


OK Einstein...take that "opinion" and prove me wrong then. Take in consideration your own beleifs which I do hope you have good legitimate points to prove your "facts".


i have no facts, only my opinion. alot of other people on this thread will not admit this. the only few facts on this thread were the numbers 2thick put up, but that doesn't mean his solution to the problem is "fact" its his opinion, like the rest of ours on how to solve the problem.
 
Natymike said:


I'm sitting here trying to understand what a white punter has to do with anything. And to say that ALL black colleges ALL have white punters is a gross overgeneralization. Has it ever occured to you that maybe the punters are on the team because they can kick?? If the kicker was black, you would not even notice them, but you are apparently angered by seeing one white player on an all black team, I guess you want all black, all the time. This is a common attitude by many African Americans. I take it that you are for segregation??

And yea, I've heard of Grambling, aren't they the team that lost something like 400 straight football games??? maybe they should open their doors to all races instead of trying to create their own subculture. The funny thing is, colleges like Grambling are ridiculously easy to get into, yet they still make as much money as whites who graduate from a much more prestigous school.

Have you heard of Texas Southern University Law School?? The AVERAGE GPA to get in is 2.4, that means you can almost fail out of college and still get into law school. The average LSAT is also one of the lowest averages in the nation. Yet, despite these ridiculous requirements, TSU graduates still manage to land extremely high paying jobs, assuming they pass the bar exam that is. I think only 70% of TSU grads pass the bar exam compared to 99% of other schools in Texas. What is a good response to this?? Civil rights leaders bitching about the BAR exam not being equal for minorities. It all makes sense in the end.

I don't know where you get that 440 loses straight crap from. Maybe you typed in the wrong search on Yahoo...but that's besides the point.

I didn't say ALL White punters, That was just an example equal to the BS examples that have been posted on this post about minorities!...and I am White if you would have taken time to READ all the posts beforehand!

..and if Grambling were so "easy" to get into, why doesn't your friend who was the creator of this post GO TO GRAMBLING?!!! Is he scared of what his WHITE friends might think of him?!!!!...and find proof that Grambling Graduates make as much OR MORE money than prestigious White College Graduates.

To get into Law School you have to take the bar Exam...right? That doesn't have anything to do if you're White or Black....if you're DUMB....then your just DUMB!!!! Don't try to make ANOTHER argument out of this post which I feel that you're are leaning against.

Find a new search engine buddy because you are all out of whack!
 
Like I said in my previous post...if Mr. Natymike is even REMOTELY correct in his assumption on "easiness"...why don't the "non-beleivers" apply for admission to Grambling State University where they are almost "guranteed" admission to their Historically Black College!? Afraid?? Too proud?? TOO WHITE!!!!!!?
 
GladiusNova said:
To get into Law School you have to take the bar Exam...right? That doesn't have anything to do if you're White or Black....if you're DUMB....then your just DUMB!!!! Don't try to make ANOTHER argument out of this post which I feel that you're are leaning against.

Find a new search engine buddy because you are all out of whack!

I should find a new search engine?? do some research before you make another idiotic statement. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then there is no point in arguing with your feeble mind.
 
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GladiusNova said:
Like I said in my previous post...if Mr. Natymike is even REMOTELY correct in his assumption on "easiness"...why don't the "non-beleivers" apply for admission to Grambling State University where they are almost "guranteed" admission to their Historically Black College!? Afraid?? Too proud?? TOO WHITE!!!!!!?

You make it sound like Grambling wants a ton of whites to transfer there. Remember all the the Harlem blacks that protested Clintons arrival to their neighborhood?? They didn't want more white people coming with him.

FUBU= For US by US

Fubu is like Grambling, if your not black, then you're not welcome.
 
Natymike said:


I should find a new search engine?? do some research before you make another idiot statement. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then there is no point in arguing with your feeble mind.

What part of that statement do you find "idiotic"? Or am I just being intolerant against your "opinion"? The only research I need to do on your (and everyone else's) comments are right here on page 1,2, and 3 of this post! Like I said, you all are just arguing just to hear yourselves argue! Why don't you go to BET.com and get a REAL argument! Scared!!? Too proud!!!? TOO WHITE!!!!?
 
Hey gladius, why dont you read all the posts, he was aying there is minority leaders screamining that the bar is too hard for blacks. And along with that ive heard that minority leaders were trying to change th sat or the act beacues it was biased for whites. Expalin that. What kind of bullshit is that? Your gonna tell me that a test is racist?? And to your point about you are also white and all the post are about minorities, thats what this thread started as, pay attention, your the one who said we needed to shut up, How is anyone who doesnt apply to grambling right away too proud? Mabey they cant get the major they want there, mabey its too far... etc. And to your not understanding of the point about losing 4oo games in a row, it is mostley a segragted college mabey they should open their doors to other colored peoples and not just blacks, then mabey they'd win more. Im not saying balcks are bad athletes im saying their not the only good athletes. Segragation leads to dislike dislike breeds hatred and hatred is racism. Gladius you havent made a point yet tonight, the majority of people who have contibuted to this thread are aginst you, does that tell you something or are you just gonna chalk it up as we'r all whites wanting more and all we like is hearing ourselves. and you shouldnt be calling anyone dumb... trust me you shoulnd't. :)
 
Natymike said:


You make it sound like Grambling wants a ton of whites to transfer there. Remember all the the Harlem blacks that protested Clintons arrival to their neighborhood?? They didn't want more white people coming with him.

FUBU= For US by US

Fubu is like Grambling, if your not black, then you're not welcome.

Now you know what all those Black Kids feel like EVERYDAY going to the "White Colleges" and in modern society.

I was just trying to give you all an altrenative to your "problem" with the scholarship funding. Be a White Tiger. What's the problem? Scared!!!? Too Proud!!!? TOO WHITE!!!?

I'm going to bed...you all are hopeless..I'm actually not angry because you all make me laugh too hard!!! lol, lol, lol
 
downsent said:
. Gladius you havent made a point yet tonight, the majority of people who have contibuted to this thread are aginst you, does that tell you something or are you just gonna chalk it up as we'r all whites wanting more and all we like is hearing ourselves. and you shouldnt be calling anyone dumb... trust me you shoulnd't. :)

You're right...you're all White and you want more. My case is closed.
 
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