HS Lifter said:Do you like living there?
Ever think of moving to the US?
Were you born and raised in Canada? If so, why/how did your family first move there?
Razorguns said:the weather sucks. the taxes suck. the government sucks. but everything is all positive for canada.
I've always hated this statement. "At least we get free healthcare!" Look. I've got money and willing to pay for a little more and better service. So, I should get it. BUT, NOOO. Everyone has to get equal footing. BS.Subzeero said:The taxes are high because we are getting free health care and much more.
Yay! We're number 1 in hockey! Fuck GDP, education, economy, healthcare, social services, and everyting else. We've got hockey and beer!Subzeero said:oh i forgot .. and u will always be no 2 or 3 or 4 in that matter in hockey.
Canada has a lower percentage in poverty, a lower ratio of debt, far healthier people, superior social services, and virtually no enemies.EnderJE said:Sorry Sub, but you've said a few things that I really hate.
I've always hated this statement. "At least we get free healthcare!" Look. I've got money and willing to pay for a little more and better service. So, I should get it. BUT, NOOO. Everyone has to get equal footing. BS.
Also, let's not kid ourselves. Look at our taxes. It ISN'T free and the coverage is declining all the time.
Yay! We're number 1 in hockey! Fuck GDP, education, economy, healthcare, social services, and everyting else. We've got hockey and beer!
I'm sure you see the point.
Great! Then we should be proud of that and not the "free healthcare" and the hockey / beer. Everytime a post comes up like this, its always hockey and beer. Face it, we're fucking hicks of the North sometimes...Testosterone boy said:Canada has a lower percentage in poverty, a lower ratio of debt, far healthier people, superior social services, and virtually no enemies.
But that alll pales in comparison to the really important thing. Canadians are generally not disgusted with their leadership and national direction over the past 20 years.
As a photographer, I have a lot of backgrounds. One is a large flag type photo background. It isn't doing very well with a lot of adults. They are pretty damend angry. Disgusted actually.
EnderJE said:Sorry Sub, but you've said a few things that I really hate.
I've always hated this statement. "At least we get free healthcare!" Look. I've got money and willing to pay for a little more and better service. So, I should get it. BUT, NOOO. Everyone has to get equal footing. BS.
Also, let's not kid ourselves. Look at our taxes. It ISN'T free and the coverage is declining all the time.
Yay! We're number 1 in hockey! Fuck GDP, education, economy, healthcare, social services, and everyting else. We've got hockey and beer!
I'm sure you see the point.
Testosterone boy said:Canada has a lower percentage in poverty,/QUOTE]
Obviously you haven't seen the averatge income in Toronto of late. Especially among immigrants.
The healthcare issue is a big box of worms waiting to be opened. Let's just say this. The newspapers are full of horror stories of people getting sub-standard care and having to go south to get the latest and greatest. I have yet to hear of any Ameriacns going to Canada for their "superior healthcare".
Let's not even count the number of highly trained Can. doctors who head to the US for higher-paying jobs. Why shouldn't they?
Sorry but i'm not into 15% sales tax. Why should *I* pay MORE OF MY MONEY just to please other people? Where am *I* getting benefit for *MY* money? Who in the gov't is accountable to the people for spending that tax money? Nobody.
Socialism is not my cup of tea. And most intelligent and educated and successful and rich people will agree. Taxing the rich, giving to the lazy and undeserving isn't the solution.
Yes, for private healthcare.Subzeero said:You wanna pay a little more for better health care??
At the end of the day, the problem with the government takes care of everything thinking is "and how is the government going to pay for that?"And its not like its going to get worse. lol honestly. I am sure some problems are there to be addressed. And they will be.
What better way to deal with the problem then to bitch on EF? loli hope u do more about it than just expressing it in internet forums.
Bingo!Razorguns said:Obviously you haven't seen the averatge income in Toronto of late. Especially among immigrants.
Razorguns said:The healthcare issue is a big box of worms waiting to be opened. Let's just say this. The newspapers are full of horror stories of people getting sub-standard care and having to go south to get the latest and greatest. I have yet to hear of any Ameriacns going to Canada for their "superior healthcare".
Actually, it wouldn't be so bad if they just said what they were going to do and how they were going to spend the money.Sorry but i'm not into 15% sales tax. Why should *I* pay MORE OF MY MONEY just to please other people? Where am *I* getting benefit for *MY* money? Who in the gov't is accountable to the people for spending that tax money? Nobody.
I was not a fan of Harris but at least he was honest can't say the same for the new ass in power. The new health care preimium in Ontario is such a joke what extra do I see for it nothing!EnderJE said:Like the Mike Harris "revolution", I always laughed when people bitched about how this service and that service was cut because he DID tell people in his election promises.
Tactile said:You just have to look at the recent goings-on in Haiti, Sudan, Bangledash, etc. to make you appreciate living in a secure, comfortable place like Canada. I feel I might've done better financially if I would've been born in the U.S., but it comes with a pricetag of increased violence/aggression, and having most of the world hate you. Europe has distinct history and culture that we don't have in North America...us being fairly young countries in the bigger picture. Over the years I have found that I connect best with people from Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark...I mostly wish that I would've been born in the area instead.
All in all though, I'm happy being Canadian. Not neccesarily proud to be one, but happy nonetheless.
Testosterone boy said:The general level of violence and aggression here is absolutely abhorable.
One has to use deadbolts on both the outside and inside doors of their home. Security systems are frequently needed.
One cannot leave valuables in their cars overnight. Damned good chance the windows will be broken out if a $150 camera is visible during the daytime.
Not feeling safe is a very bad feeling. Very bad.
But even that pales in comparison to a new trend. The income of all but the wealthy is in a nosedive. Wages are rapidly declining. Rapidly.
Come to America if you want to be wealthy? Sure thing.....take a chance. Modern America really could care less about you if you achieve anything less.
Your job will suck unless you have serious, state of the art, skills. Overall job quality has been flushed down the proverbial toilet. Most businesses have to be a sweatshop in order to survive.
1) I appreciate the good things. However, I don' t have pollyanna views on the bad things. Healthcare is crap compared to that in the States. I work and pay for my own benefits. Yet, I have to wait in line for public services. If I didn't work and didn't pay for my own benefits, then I'd LOVE it here.Subzeero said:I don't know what it takes to make some people appreciate the good things about their lives and country. Obviously some of you have never been outside canada to a third world country.
Bingo.superqt4u2nv said:I was not a fan of Harris but at least he was honest can't say the same for the new ass in power.
Bingo 2superqt4u2nv said:The new health care preimium in Ontario is such a joke what extra do I see for it nothing!
True. Tax structure is different.superqt4u2nv said:I think all and all we have a great standard of living here in general, but to become truely wealthy have to move to the US. The more money you make here the more they take away.
Razorguns said:the weather sucks. the taxes suck. the government sucks. but everything is all positive for canada.
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