My first cycle I took dbol 40mg/day for 4 weeks and sust 750 for 8 weeks & gained 21lbs.......took off 1 month.......started dbol 50mg/day for 4 weeks & sust 750 for 10 weeks & primo last 4 weeks & gained another 18lbs. only lost 3lbs in between. I have never had these results since.