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Nelson Montana

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I know nothing about UG labs and don't need to. I'm on HR.T and get pharma stuff legit.

HOWEVER...

I constantly read about the debate between human and UG quality. It seems to me that a UG lab doesn't have to answer to any quality control so you never know what you get. Then again, if the chemical compound is correct and the conditions are 100% sterile and the dosage is right...then there's no difference.

With all the questions about who's good and who's better, let's set things straight for the members. Let's find out who has the BEST.

Time to VOTE.

So to all those who know, or think they know...

WHAT THREE UG LABS SELL THE FINEST HUMAN GRADE GEAR???

(Without giving exact names or addresses of course)


Please...no "these guys are cheap" or "I hear these guys are good" or "I don't care." Let's try to get an accurate assessment and then we may be able to refer to this thread to answer the same questions we're bound to see.

Thanks!
 
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None sell Human Grade its Vet at best

I think your asking what are the best 3 UGS out and that question will be like asking stupid groupie what band she likes
 
Can't say as far as labs go since I am waiting on an order that I placed on Monday..................but.........as far as ancillaries go I ordered letro from AG Guys on Saturday.....perfect shipping, no problems and only took 3 bus days. Ordered vials from getpinz the same night and same thing......absolutely top-notch......I will keep everyone updated on the gear.
 
OMEGA said:
None sell Human Grade its Vet at best

I think your asking what are the best 3 UGS out and that question will be like asking stupid groupie what band she likes
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Fair enough. So you're inferring that no one gets their raw materials from human pharm sources, just vet houses? But there is no vet Primmo or varr so you're saying they're selling, what? E.Q as Primmo and Winniee as varr?

And as long as what they stick in the amp does something, that's pretty much the beginning and end of it?
 
I doubt that UG gets powder from Pharm sources as they is most likely more of a paper trail.

UG is Vet at best

but maybe Anthony can educate us further
 
Nelson Montana said:
I know nothing about UG labs and don't need to. I'm on HR.T and get pharma stuff legit.

HOWEVER...

I constantly read about the debate between human and UG quality. It seems to me that a UG lab doesn't have to answer to any quality control so you never know what you get. Then again, if the chemical compound is correct and the conditions are 100% sterile and the dosage is right...then there's no difference.

With all the questions about who's good and who's better, let's set things straight for the members. Let's find out who has the BEST.

Time to VOTE.

So to all those who know, or think they know...

WHAT THREE UG LABS SELL THE FINEST HUMAN GRADE GEAR???


Please...no "these guys are cheap" or "I hear these guys are good" or "I don't care." Let's try to get an accurate assessment and then we may be able to refer to this thread to answer the same questions we're bound to see.

Thanks!
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nolimitxxx lab is #1 in my garage
 
I don't think you can say any of them sell human grade gear, it's just which ones are most consistent and accurate w/ their dosing.
That's hard to answer since noone gets anything tested but I will say that I have had good luck w/ Pro Form and GA.
 
beenieman said:
I haven't a clue but can someone please tell me if AXIO Labs is human grade???
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Start your own thread.
This is the third time I've seen you ask this same question.
 
Not true................I know of a human grade source on powder in the states, but you have to provide a DBA (business permit) and will only deliver business to business and on top of that 5 grams of test e sell for about 268.00.........do the math, thats a 20ml batch dosed at 250mg per and by the time you add the BA and oil you've got about 290 dollars invested in a cycle of pharma grade homebrew (if you don't fuck up the first time)............even 10 amps of underground at 20.00 per cc is saving you about 90 dollars
 
you might wanna delete that link there beavis :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
not only because its against the forum regulations.. but also becuase its totally bogus overpriced and just ridiculous..
 
i know of ONE UG guy who still sells human grade amps.. hes also an axio reseller

most of the amps are test..

proform has always done me right, results/ta/communication A+

Osoca is another lab that has consistenly provided great service, with some high dose products that ive seen good results with
 
gas prices arent too good to go though.. plus id be kind of worried since they are so publicly advertised
 
jmead said:
gas prices arent too good to go though.. plus id be kind of worried since they are so publicly advertised
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Interesting. I have no idea where any of these people are. And please don't tell me! (Other than stealth, which for some reason has been mentioned openly). But it seems you get what you pay for.

I'd think when dealing with this sort of stuff, it's worth the extra few dollars. This isn't something where you want to take chances. Maybe if the better UG labs rise to the top it'll oust the fly-by-nights.

This is all curiousity on my part, but I do have a vested interest in where this is all going. The FDA HATES the fact that anyone would be moving in on their racket. At the same time, whenever someone is hurt or ripped off by a black market dealer, they could care less. In fact, it's in their interest to welcome it.
 
when you say a difference in a few dollars.. try about 100-150% higher than a few reliable more on the "DL" sources

im sure GAs stuff is good.. but their prices were high BEFORE the china issue.. now.. wowsers
 
oh ya, and they basically RUN their own open source forum.. with their name plastered all over it.. they just updated their site too.. its very visually apealing and takes forever to load the forum.. but hey maybe LE will get tired of waiting for the page to load and will move on?!
 
FNG here! someone tell me about "the china thing". Im still trying to recover from the "signature" thing. I dont want to run into anymore RAT TRAPS!!
 
My Favorites (in no order) were:

DL Pharmaceuticals, Inc
Stealth Injectables
Stark
Dpharm (now he runs a nutritional company also)
 
Syrus NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - was tops. BD has been consistent. They are no longer. LSP has been consistent and highly rated. Not a lot of sources carry it. Balkan Pharmaceuticals is supposed to be human grade. Axiolabs is new but not necessarily human grade. Apparently A--N was a BD authorized distributor, applied for a pharma license in his home country (E. Europe), BD owners were not on board, and when he actually got it, he started Balkan Pharmaceuticals, which is a licensed human grade pharmaceutical based in a E. European country. Cannot speak for many UG labs other than Syrus, BD, LSP. Stallion is an UG lab that seems to be honest and consistent although admittedly affected by the Chinese powder crackdown -- 50% increase in prices. I have no experience with GA, ProLabs, or whatever they are called. Only have heard of them through the grapevine here and there. Human grade is not impossible to find. Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Naposims seem readily available, Sustanon, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (Karachi or Norma), Enanthate (Iranian), Omnadrens, all seem to be in supply if you know where to look.
 
Mac173 said:
I don't think you can say any of them sell human grade gear, it's just which ones are most consistent and accurate w/ their dosing.
That's hard to answer since noone gets anything tested but I will say that I have had good luck w/ Pro Form and GA.
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with all the stuff thaat was going wrong with proform and my still be I will say this...the gear has bin some of the best I have come across.even his primo has bin said by many people that use only primo to be primo and good at that...
 
Glad to see this one bumped up. Wow, lots of varying opinions and the concencous seems to be that there's no way of knowing whose materials are pharm grade or not, but it seems all the labs are essentially UG's.

So who are the winners? It seems like GA wins in regard to customer satisfaction followed by Proform, Balkin and Stealth. (And honestly I don't know wjo any of these are but I know Stealth has been mentioned openly so many times. They sell the packets, right? There's something about that I don't love. But it's a non issue to me).

Bottom line: If the stuff does what it's supposed to do and enough vets know the difference between test and primmo and dboll and varr and nobody is experiencing any problems regarding purity, then that's as good as it's going to get for now.
 
Retabolil2 said:
WOW! WHAT AN ASS KISS! JESUS...ANTHONY WHO IS SAYING LOTS OF "BEYOND THE RULES" THINGS ABOUT SOURCES CAN EDUCATE YOU?! TRUST ME YOU CAN TEACH HIM A GOOD LESSON BECAUSE HE DOESNT KNOW MUCH! FOR EXAMPLE ACCORDING TO ANTHONY BALKAN PHARM IS HUMAN GRADE! ONLY A NEWBIE WILL EAT THIS! WAIT A MINUTE, I`M NOT SAYING THIS BRAND IS GARBAGE! NO! PROBABLY ITS TOP NOTCH BUT STILL ITS NOT HUMAN GRADE AND ITS NOT BEING SOLD IN ANY PHARMACIES, EVEN IN ROMANIAN ONES! AND EVEN IF ITS BEING SOLD THROUGH GYPSIE PHARM STORES IT DOESNT MEAN SHIT! IN THAI PHARMACIES YOU CAN BUY ALOT OF ILLEGAL SHIT TOO BUT IT DOESNT MAKE IT PHARM GRADE!
ORGANON AND SCHERING HAD TO DECREASE AMOUNT OF STEROIDS THEY MANUFACTURE BECAUSE EU GIVES THEM A HARD PRESSURE! AND THEY REALISE HOW MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE ON THIS MARKET BUT STILL THEY DONT MAKE ANY NEW STEROIDS AND NOW THEY ONLY MAKE Primobolan - methenolone - IN TURKEY, OUT OF EU! THEY DONT MAKE IT IN SPAIN AND THEY DONT MAKE IT IN GERMANY ANYMORE!
ALL THOSE NEWBIE GURUS ON THE BOARD MAKE ME SICK... I DONT PRETEND TO BE A GURU AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A WISEMAN TO FIGURE 2+2 !!!
YOU CANT LEARN FROM GUYS LIKE SATCH, DBBT...(LIST GOES ON)!!!
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Damn, you straight up called Anthony out on that post . .

You even capped all of your typing. Who is Satch and DBBT?
 
I dont know about you but I dont get GA from a RESELLER
maybe thats why youre spending an arm and a leg

Dbbt has some humor once in a while
but hes a damn fool
 
Stallion is doin gme right.
 
Retabolil2 said:
most fucked up scammers and worst sort of idiots out there :) Do a search and you`ll find alot about Satchboogie! :) This guy could sell you his urine as test testosterone cypionate! And he was jacked! Just like Anthony! around 120lbs or so :) LOL
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Satchboogie sounds really gross selling his urine in vials like that . .

I'm scared to search for him cause i don't want threads about urine or bullshit.

You know what i mean?
 
instant.muscle said:
satch sold human grade gear then scammed lots of people for lots of money
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his shit was not human grade he sold gtp witch is a good product but he fucked there name up by selling his fake shit some times and going scam in the end.
 
Retabolil2 said:
WOW! WHAT AN ASS KISS! ..!
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Sorry but thats not me.

If someone shows me goodness, professionalism, and the best of themselves I really don't care what others say.

Innocent till you let me down numerous times.
And if you let me down all the way then I simply wont be a friend.

thats my rule.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I know nothing about UG labs and don't need to. I'm on HR.T and get pharma stuff legit.

HOWEVER...

I constantly read about the debate between human and UG quality. It seems to me that a UG lab doesn't have to answer to any quality control so you never know what you get. Then again, if the chemical compound is correct and the conditions are 100% sterile and the dosage is right...then there's no difference.

With all the questions about who's good and who's better, let's set things straight for the members. Let's find out who has the BEST.

Time to VOTE.

So to all those who know, or think they know...

WHAT THREE UG LABS SELL THE FINEST HUMAN GRADE GEAR???

(Without giving exact names or addresses of course)


Please...no "these guys are cheap" or "I hear these guys are good" or "I don't care." Let's try to get an accurate assessment and then we may be able to refer to this thread to answer the same questions we're bound to see.

Thanks!
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I know my shit is legit. I homebrew and get every powder that crosses my path tested. HRT is too damn expensive and not worth the extra money spent. Most of the HRT clinics out there that are pushing the legal limits are getting shut down. The last thing I want is some asshole doc who has my name, address etc. getting raided by the feds and then the feds visiting me.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Remember my yesterday`s post? :) It got deleted :) They will delete this one as well :)
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i dont get it. Why would all your posts get deleted? I understand that you have some beefs. But, if they did not want you here, wouldnt they just ban you?

I, actually, think you add an important perspective here. You call bullshit on people alot.. The russian sheriff?
Good to have you here!
 
Retabolil2 said:
Remember my yesterday`s post? :) It got deleted :) They will delete this one as well :)
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ret let me know whats going on here really I want to know about this shit...I thought this post deleting crap ended when ulter and mac left....
 
Stew and needto:

If you drop me an e-mail, I'll give you my phone number, and tell you 100% of what's going on around here.

You will see things a bit differently at that point, regarding what's up.
 
I have a ton of free time, and I like talking on the phone. No worries.
 
Maybe I'll go into business in Russia, brewing steroids in my kitchen sink? Or do you have the market cornered on that already?
 
I have been using almost all Quest since i started juicing, and think I have done well with it...I have gone back and forth between UG and human, and different UGs and have not noticed much of a difference other than price(human costs more $) Other than that I find that Quest, and the one of two other brands (like LTL and red sea) that I stick with are smooth, no painful shots due to too much alcohol to balance out improper conditions
 
wow, I didnt read the entire thread before I posted, didnt notice the hornets nest already going on
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Stew and needto:

If you drop me an e-mail, I'll give you my phone number, and tell you 100% of what's going on around here.

You will see things a bit differently at that point, regarding what's up.
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lol I have sent you like 4 emails this week bro and you ant replied to any of them....its my account [email protected] to what I thought was your ef account [email protected] unless you got a imposter now to.lol

any way I have a lot to talk about with whats going on here to things in the industry that are up and coming....one company that used your name is on the top of my list as well.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Stew and needto:

If you drop me an e-mail, I'll give you my phone number, and tell you 100% of what's going on around here.

You will see things a bit differently at that point, regarding what's up.
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I love to hear
 
Retabolil2 said:
Tell your sex partner not to delete some of my posts, because it looks like you have paranoya and speak to yourself :) LOL
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If you're wondering why your posts get deleted, re-read this one.

Better yet, have AnaFit tell you how it worked out for them when they acted like you are right now.
 
i've used ga gained like 40 lbs on 10 weeks test and eq..

i'm gonna try swish next. heard he's a bad ass has some sick blends..
 
Anthony Roberts said:
If you're wondering why your posts get deleted, re-read this one.

Better yet, have AnaFit tell you how it worked out for them when they acted like you are right now.
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answer the dame phone.lol :)
 
DBBT said:
lololololololol.

someone has to make you look more down syndromed once in awhile.
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you would b smart to just stay out of my way bro....I dont go out of my way to bother you.it cant be that hard for you to do the same.....
 
I've been away for a while, I'm curious to know what happened to mac? Seemed like a good bro,unless I've been foiled!
 
Yeah, I know what happened with GenXXL. Are you talking about the info I had in my blog for a week now?

Also...anafit said the same thing...they said they'd be around long after, etc, etc...and now they're struggling to pay their bills.
 
What GenXXL thing are you talking about? Brian going to prison?

No...I'm talking about AnaFit acting like they ran the show here, getting the boot, and now their business is bleeding money.
 
Nelson Montana said:
It seems to me that a UG lab doesn't have to answer to any quality control so you never know what you get.
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UG labs have quality control. Their products are often tested by users, and the results published. Also, in a sense, the customer feedback loop via the amazing invention called the internet, is quality control. If a lab fucks up, the information is dispersed at the speed of an electron. Granted, it might be too late for some users, so the system is not perfect, but then again, the FDA has fucked up on more than one occasion, too, often with tragic results.
 
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