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Thinking of running AAS anyways
- Thread starter Tone28
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wait for what?... reaching some arbitrary amount of bodyweight? why take the stairs when you can take the elevator...
keep it simple and remember that diet and training will dictate your results... either you do right or dont, also keep in mind that the faster gained, the faster lost if not properly maintained...
good luck with your cycle...
keep it simple and remember that diet and training will dictate your results... either you do right or dont, also keep in mind that the faster gained, the faster lost if not properly maintained...
good luck with your cycle...
TravFlex91
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Kind of a double edged sword with this one.
OP: what are you taking for pct? Do you have any ai's on hand? Adex or something of the sort?
You realize at 150 youve barely given yourself a base.. When your off cycle you can and will lose all gains and just fuck up your test levels. Nothing worse than having no nuts, ED and being 150 and depressed. You need to do your research on diet, eat more before you take aas. How long have you been working out? Your body won't be able to handle the newfound strength and you'll hurt yourself and look like a tool. This whole I'm cycling anyways attitude is ridiculous, the guys on here are literally going to make you cry. And hopefully step up your diet and realize your making a stupid mistake
TravFlex91
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There is honestly so much other things you can do besides aas. The whole waiting Argument is so relevant. Primary reason, your going to ruin your body and end back up at 150.. It's almost inevitable.
I'd look into caloric surplus.. More protein, even supplement a natural test booster shiit. Just dont jump right into aas like you won't snap a tendon and be a fuckin gibble..
A Soft Koala
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I'm in for this train wreck....Glad people like Moya are doing the responsible thing and giving good advice...rofl.
TravFlex91
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Hahaha yes!
TravFlex91
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He has less posts than me bro.. Like this guys account has been dormant or some stupid shit.. But hey, he's gonna pin anyways right ?
A Soft Koala
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Alright Tone, if you are going to run it no matter what go ahead and list out your cycle, cycle sups, ai, and PCT.
TravFlex91
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How pissed are you gonna be when his response is.. What does all the stuff after cycle mean?
mich29
Banned
like others have said your loss most of your mass your gain on cycle as its too early plus you run the risk of getting hurt as well.def not worth it to run it so early
.honestly you can adjust your diet and trainning and gain the newbie 10 to 15lbs anyway right off the bat in a month or 2.
by then your body should be in half way decent shape to cycle if you must but I'd at least wait 6 months to a year before running anything.trust me when your diet and training are in order your gain like your on aas and it will blow your mind.at what you think you needed to be on in order to gain the weight and power you wanted.
TravFlex91
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^^^this.
if these guys werent so busy figuring out how to do a premature cycle the research would show them that there are some less risky options that can be pumped into their blood stream e.g. sarms, ph's, etc.
this guy runs osta and hcgenerate with a kick ass diet and I guarantee hed be surprised at his gains.
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this guy runs osta and hcgenerate with a kick ass diet and I guarantee hed be surprised at his gains.
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i second the baffling... im just baffled all night with some of the ridulousness i've been reading... fuck man, seriously? why wait... UMMM i don't know... maybe because you said "new to working out" or maybe because your fucking way underweight... I think your stats are made up... you can't possibly be this negligent at 29 years old or perhaps i'm giving your age too much credit... either way... its not about "you should wait" or more like " your nowhere near fucking ready"
RADAR
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Heres a train wreck waiting to happen,when i was your age i didn't have access to all of this information, so consider yourself lucky.
First of all , i'll say this only once
1- steroids are not some magic pill
2- you have no base, nothing will work without that.
3- diet make it your lifestyle
4- you have to hit the gym reliously every day at least 4-5 days a week
Now for starters READ THIS
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html
You need at least 4-5 yrs hard training.
Imagine a Cake
it could be a 3- or 5 layer cake (thats your foundation) depending how you want to be.
after that you may add iceing
its like giving someone an indy car the day before the indy 500 and saying.. ahhh go for it.. what could go wrong...
start slow get some driving lessons.. buy an old beater.. learn to drive.. fix up the old car a bit.. learn the workings of it.. buy a new model.. maybe do some small local races like autocross.. stay there a while.. step it up..
this 'model' is basically a universal truth. "you gotta learn to walk before you run"
start slow get some driving lessons.. buy an old beater.. learn to drive.. fix up the old car a bit.. learn the workings of it.. buy a new model.. maybe do some small local races like autocross.. stay there a while.. step it up..
this 'model' is basically a universal truth. "you gotta learn to walk before you run"
you will waste your entire cycle learning how to workout, diet, and you will spend all of it being sore.
you have no conditioning or muscle memory to work with. so it will be a waste.
also when you come off roids you will 99% quit on the gym, i guarantee it. you will lose your motivation. seen it happen a zillion times.
you have no conditioning or muscle memory to work with. so it will be a waste.
also when you come off roids you will 99% quit on the gym, i guarantee it. you will lose your motivation. seen it happen a zillion times.
I think you need to learn a few things first. For starters, "anyways" isn't a word.
ding ding..... Winner.
Why is it wrong? Because you have no idea wtf your doing, what your using, how it works, how to eat, train, and its painfully obvious. If you had an idea about any of that then you wouldnt be asking whats wrong with it. I didnt have a place like EF in 97' and i did the same thing your wanting to do. Guess what...it turned out exactly like steve said....exactly. didnt eat right or enough...spent the whole time sore, didnt sleep or supplement right. I was a 6'0" 175 lb jerk off like we see every day.
So if your not going to listen then at least take a few months and get your body into wtf is going on before you prove steve right. I wouldnt have listened in 97' either but i shoukd have spent a few months trying to prepare.
But i doubt you will...afterall....summer is coming.
Not the place for asking this. Please start your own thread
A Soft Koala
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SARM's brother
. I don't know but hopefully they will still have the 50% off discount when they are back in stock!
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EarthRider
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lmao, i smell a troll
^^^this...we are being played
Troll or not, I fucking love cake...
the OP isn't a troll.. he asked almost the same thing back in sept. i guess now he really really wants to juice. but i don't know what he has been doing since sept.. had he followed what i told him with the bulking and workout in my signature for the past 6 months he wouldn't still be 150 pounds.
TravFlex91
New member
Straight the fuck up.
not sure which is worse--a troll or world's worst and laziest procrastinator who then wants instant results
TravFlex91
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Hey bro.. I curled a combine total of 3 times today.. Actually ever. But nothing happened so.. I'm gonna get tren deca test prop and some dbol to kick it off. Don't worry I did my research.. Running Nolva for my pct... Lolololol
good point.. the problem is guys use steroids as a motivational tool to hit the gym. then when they come off they quit again.
OP: if you aren't motivated off steroids, then don't even bother to run them.
its like an NFL pro athlete who walks in on game day but during the week doesn't study film, show up at meetings, learn from the coaches, or practice.
its why guys like Ryan Leaf who are considered the most talented guy in the draft end up being busts but guys like Tom Brady turn into MVP's.
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kc17
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Broscience at its best. How is he gonna fuck up his test levels uh ?
Dayum....a Ryan Leaf reference...
they asked Ryan Leaf what he would do after he signed his rookie contract he said "I'm going to vegas to party"
they asked Manning the same question he said "i'm gonna get to the facility and meet the coaches and learn the playbook and study tape"
last i heard Leaf was arrested for burglary and Manning just signed a 96M dollar contract. so its up to the OP which direction he wants to take. he can either go the Ryan Leaf route or the Manning route
also Leaf actually pulled his hamstring and was on the ground in agony after not even being touched in a game, he ran for a first down and slid and managed to pull his hamstring. that is bad conditioning pure and simple. and thats what will happen when you go into a cycle with bad conditioning. you will either be sore all cycle or you will hurt yourself doing the simplest things.
blue_steel74
New member
Build your "cake" first
How bout tellin this dude to eat some cake first lol. Sounds like he could use some shitty calories lol
C0LUMB0
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at 150lbs...please put down the syringe and head for the kitchen son.
RADAR is right as always
This is the cycle you need :
weeks 1-52......... 25000mg of chicken propionate with rice administered to the mouth 3 times a day .
weeks 1-52......... 30000mg of beef decanote and sweet potato shoveled down the throat ED
weeks 1-52......... 10000mg of oats enanthate x 2 ED
weeks 1-52......... 12000 i.u of whey protein acetate down the neck x 2 ED.
Have nuts,eggs,milk,fish,fruit,green veg to handle sides like hunger pangs .
0.5 rolls of toilet paper administered to the sphincter ED to deal with nasty whey protein shits.
Good luck and enjoy the cycle.
RADAR is right as always
This is the cycle you need :
weeks 1-52......... 25000mg of chicken propionate with rice administered to the mouth 3 times a day .
weeks 1-52......... 30000mg of beef decanote and sweet potato shoveled down the throat ED
weeks 1-52......... 10000mg of oats enanthate x 2 ED
weeks 1-52......... 12000 i.u of whey protein acetate down the neck x 2 ED.
Have nuts,eggs,milk,fish,fruit,green veg to handle sides like hunger pangs .
0.5 rolls of toilet paper administered to the sphincter ED to deal with nasty whey protein shits.
Good luck and enjoy the cycle.
If you can't gain weight naturally, you won't gain on steroids either. They just help accelerate what you are already doing.
You will put your health and HPTA at risk for no benefit. Learn how to eat and grow first!
You will put your health and HPTA at risk for no benefit. Learn how to eat and grow first!
that guy dated one of my ex's best friends. hung out with him twice.... royal prick. SUPER off topic, sorry.
