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The Whores Vs Real Man Debate

Sinistar

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why are women called sluts while men are patted on the back?

i can remeber in high school, when some girl had been around, guys would say shit like 'her pussy must be as big around as this bowl ' ect.

is the bottom line on this that men think women who fuck are damaged/used up?

and ladies, lets be honest: if your man drops a large number in your lap [number of ppl hes bedded that is lmao. not a 12 inch single] what do you think? skanky? whorish? knows what to do?

ive observed, from a distance, that women whos men have been around are happy that they have been.

any chance of finding the real reasons, without falling back on male-female equality thing? hasnt worked to this point.
 
its the typical double standard. i hate that its ok for guys to go around screwing everything that isn't nailed down, but have a girl have a healthy sexual appetite, and she's labeled a whore forever. i also get all kinds of pissed off when men make excuses for cheating by saying its in their nature not to be monogomous. to borrow your phrase, "for fucks sake" does no one have to be accountable for their actions anymore?

if i were single now, it probably wouldn't bother me if a guy had been with alot of girls prior to me, but it would bother me if he was still currently running around putting notches on his belt. i know a few guys like that right now, and honestly, it kinda oogs me out. so my answer is: in the past, it would be ok for a guy to have alot of lovers, but present, he needs to be narrowing the field down a little
 
yup...

its a double standard, but sorry, its unlikely to change any time soon.

Interesting twist on this... MrsG and I have a son and a daughter, and we have discussed many times whether or not the rules (dating rules, going out rules, etc) would be different for them and I have to say, I'm still wrestling with this - the double standard issue.

MrsG, just for the record, is for a single set of rules for all - she's right, but my male hetero brain still hasn't quite accepted it.

Yeah, yeah, men are pigs...

DrG
 
TEXgrl said:



grosses me out to think of all the skanky hoes he's screwing. is that better? :)

didnt you just say it was wrong to call someone with a healthy sexual appetite a hoe?
 
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drgoodbody said:
its a double standard, but sorry, its unlikely to change any time soon.

Interesting twist on this... MrsG and I have a son and a daughter, and we have discussed many times whether or not the rules (dating rules, going out rules, etc) would be different for them and I have to say, I'm still wrestling with this - the double standard issue.

MrsG, just for the record, is for a single set of rules for all - she's right, but my male hetero brain still hasn't quite accepted it.

Yeah, yeah, men are pigs...

DrG

Plus, being a man, you know exactly how a lot of men are going to treat your daughter. I'm sure it turns your stomach to think that some guy may be screwing her screaming "Who's Your Daddy?" lol...

I agree...there is definitely a double standard...and I also agree that it will not change for a long time...if ever. It has to be something that I guess women will always have to accept...
 
Women who have had several sexual experiences with different ppl are not whores, they are normal women. Women that have several different sexual experiences while you are dating them are whores.
 
jubei said:
Women who have had several sexual experiences with different ppl are not whores, they are normal women. Women that have several different sexual experiences while you are dating them are whores.

You know...that's actually quite a logical way to look at it. I think we [women] would be naive to think that all [or even most] men could begin to think like that, though.
 
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Night Fly said:


Plus, being a man, you know exactly how a lot of men are going to treat your daughter. I'm sure it turns your stomach to think that some guy may be screwing her screaming "Who's Your Daddy?" lol...

LMAO!!

Personally, i dont have a problem with my men having more patners. It's better because i like to be taught new things too.. I try not to think about if he's had a threesome before, or if he's cum on another girls face LOL.. You only hurt yourself that way. Ive also devirginized a guy before.. No fun no fun at all.

As far as the slut deal, well i believe this will never change, but things ARE better than they used to be, so that's a step forward :)
 
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Night Fly said:
I'm sure it turns your stomach to think that some guy may be screwing her screaming "Who's Your Daddy?" lol...

That's wrong on so many levels... my daughter is 9 months old and I can't even begin to think about this. My hope is however that she will grow up with the good judgement and sense to know that men are dogs, and that she's the one in control (i.e. most women can have a guy or sex whenever they want...)

Anybody that disagrees that women are in charge when it comes to hooking up is seriously deluded.

DrG
 
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Frackal said:


didnt you just say it was wrong to call someone with a healthy sexual appetite a hoe?

background on that, the girls he is with are being with him because he's a dealer, no other reason. thats skanky.

have sex if you want to have sex any other reason is being a ho
 
I think guys don't like to think about all those hot studs that have cum before them. There's always that pressure to either meet or beat the previous sexual partner. When a woman has had more partners that just makes matters worse for the guy.

For women, 99% of them don't do anything during sex. They want a man to take control and know what he's doing. Of course that doesn't mean they want a man whore, but experience is a great thing.

One note however, if a man has never been in a serious relationship then he knows nothing about sex. It's not until you're with the same person for a long while that you're able to discover more sexual insights. He could have laid 50 women, but if he's only done it 50 times, what the fuck could he possible know.
 
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drgoodbody said:


That's wrong on so many levels... my daughter is 9 months old and I can't even begin to think about this. My hope is however that she will grow up with the good judgement and sense to know that men are dogs, and that she's the one in control (i.e. most women can have a guy or sex whenever they want...)

Anybody that disagrees that women are in charge when it comes to hooking up is seriously deluded.

DrG

DrG-

I hope you know that I didn't mean to offend you at all...but I think that it's totally true what I said. There is a double standard...but honestly...I think there SHOULD be one in this instance. I can't blame you at all for having a hard time rationalizing why the 'rules' should be the same. They shouldn't. Bottom line. I'm a woman and when/if I have a daughter and a son...you better bet your butt the rules won't be the same.

You have a long way to go before thinking about that. Don't be so strict that your daughter would ever want to rebel...but don't give her TOO much freedom with the boys...because things will happen.
 
From a parental standpoint, I think if we'd be stricter with the boys to start out with we'd have less to worry about with the girls. Why do we give boys the freedoms we're trying to protect the girls from to begin with? Who are they gonna be practicing their freedoms with after all...the girls we're trying to keep safe. It's also odd that girls begin to mature at an earlier age than boys (ie. puberty starts about 2 yrs. earlier for girls than boys). Then boys reach their sexual peaks by the time they're 20 yet women don't get there 'till their 30's. Mother nature is surely mysterious.
 
I think guys don't like to think about all those hot studs that have cum before them. There's always that pressure to either meet or beat the previous sexual partner. When a woman has had more partners that just makes matters worse for the guy.

For women, 99% of them don't do anything during sex. They want a man to take control and know what he's doing. Of course that doesn't mean they want a man whore, but experience is a great thing.

One note however, if a man has never been in a serious relationship then he knows nothing about sex. It's not until you're with the same person for a long while that you're able to discover more sexual insights. He could have laid 50 women, but if he's only done it 50 times, what the fuck could he possible know.
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a woman who does her best impression of a maniquen during sex doesnt get invited back.

truthfully, ive only had one ive plugged into do that shit. i hope thats all as well. if you cant help yourself....
 
would she qualify as a whore?

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Men in their 20's and women in their 30's... I figured this one out early. When I was 17, I was with a 30 year old.:p So much fun when you work with mother nature isn't it. If you don't think a 30 year old woman can "keep up" with a 20 year old guy, think again.

Now I'm sure she had more partners than I did at the time, but when we were together she didn't screw around at all, so I was happy. The whole "whore" thing is just a cheap ego-saving excuse guys come up with after getting shot down.
 
This whole thread is bullshit...NO double standards here...the reason women are seen as whores when they sleep around is because it's really not in their nature. It's almost considered an unnatural behaviour.
On the other hand, men have a natural tendency to want to fuck every half decent looking chick. It's in our genes lol.
There is an inherent difference between the sexes. Men have more testosterone, making us more sexually aggressive.
The reason men get 'patted on the back' is because it's a greater challenge for them in getting laid. To a woman, it ain't nothing....
 
So since it's in a man's biological nature to spread his seeds and fuck any person of the opposite sex, then the ones who only sleep with people they care about and pass up sexual offers should be called names and judged? Your post is a bunch of bullshit. Don't be jealous that women have a sexual advantage. I think men are just insecure with themselves which is why they can't take it when a women is in touch with her sexuality and women are brainwashed into thinking it's degrading or "bad".
 
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Friscochick said:


LMAO!!

Personally, i dont have a problem with my men having more patners. It's better because i like to be taught new things too.. I try not to think about if he's had a threesome before, or if he's cum on another girls face LOL.. You only hurt yourself that way. Ive also devirginized a guy before.. No fun no fun at all.

As far as the slut deal, well i believe this will never change, but things ARE better than they used to be, so that's a step forward :)



would you mind devirginizing me? lol
 
bananamilk said:
So since it's in a man's biological nature to spread his seeds and fuck any person of the opposite sex, then the ones who only sleep with people they care about and pass up sexual offers should be called names and judged? Your post is a bunch of bullshit. Don't be jealous that women have a sexual advantage. I think men are just insecure with themselves which is why they can't take it when a women is in touch with her sexuality and women are brainwashed into thinking it's degrading or "bad".


Who are you refering to? The ones?? I don't quite follow you...I'm not judging anyone. Just telling you how it is.
When did I express jealousy? Yes, women can get sex easier, BUT they are way more selective with who they sleep with.
I , for one am not insecure. You're confusing men with boys.
 
There is a point everyone here seems to be missing.

MEN AND WOMEN ARE INHERENTLY DIFFERENT IN REGARDS TO SEX !!!!

We're just wired differently. So you can't compare the two different attitudes or approaches to sex. It wouldn't be fair to either gender.

Anybody ever wonder why when people cheat on their partners, 9 times out of 10 it's the men?
It's because males have this added biologically driven need to copulate with more than one partner. Not because men are scumbags as ALL women will have you believe.
This drive is an inherent trait.

I'm not condoning/justifying men who cheat. Just making you all aware it's harder for a guy to stay monogamous..

Men/women just have to accept the differences.


This should be a sticky lol
 
MEN AND WOMEN ARE INHERENTLY DIFFERENT IN REGARDS TO SEX !!!!

:rolleyes:

here is a fact that may shock you anabolic. women like sex as much as men do- even in the animal kingdom
 
If men are biologically programmed to spread their seeds into every women out there then what about the men who are more selective in choosing who they sleep with? Should they be called insulting names and looked down upon because they're not living up to their biological duties? Don't be jealous that women have power over men in a category, which in this case is sex. I think that men go by this old way of thinking because they're brainwashed into it by society, their egos needs for them to be more powerful over us wee women in every way (jobs, position of authority, money, household, sex, etc.), and/or insecurity with themselves as to their sexual techniques and prowess. If you go by the old way of thinking (sexual women=sluts, sexual men=studs) and don't think you fall into the aforementioned category, then you're in denial babe. Women are brainwashed into thinking that expressing your sexuality is degrading, disrespectful of yourself and "dirty". No wonder many women have trouble reaching orgasms and letting go in bed. All their lives they have had to repress their sexual urges because of the faulty teaching. Then men complain about women not being adventurous enough or sexual enough in bed?! Hello!!! If you and others in this world would stop shaming sexual women (their style of dressing, flirting, graphically talking about and expressing their love of sex, multiple partners, etc.) then we wouldn't have this problem.

There is a difference between humans and animals. That's why scientists put us in separate categories. It's normal for animals to mate with their family members but do you see other humans doing their "biological duty" by having sex with family? No, not most people. We are not here on this world to just procreate. With animals yes all they do is eat, sleep, and mate. However humans have the power of reason and logical thinking (well some) which is why we contemplate about religion, ethics, jobs, family, relationships, our place and meaning in this world, etc. Humans are not as simple as animals are so please people stop using that old tired biological programming bullshit in your arguments. "Well it's biologically programmed in men to cheat, look at the animals!" Ughhhhh! Somebody get me a gun! Men and women cheat because basically they're insecure with themselves and are too cowardly to tell people the truth about how they feel. Or they're just cruel bitches! Men just use that biological EXCUSE to validate to themselves and to others that it's not really their fault. It gets them out of taking responsibility for their actions.

Calling someone an insulting name such as "whore" is judging someone negatively. Just because others do it doesn't mean you should follow them. Most men are taught to date around and sleep around with as many women as possible. It's seen on t.v, movies, music, even in the family when dads high five their sons for "scoring" and the moms just say "boys will be boys" bullshit. That's a large part of the reason why in general women are choosy and men aren't. So since it's in our genes for women to be more emotional and men logical, then women shouldn't work in business or hold management positions? What's the point of having a custody battle over a mom and dad if it's a mom's biological duty to raise the kids? Men and women are different, due to a large extent on how we're brought up in this world, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same opportunities, privileges and be treated differently.

This whole argument reminds me of when black slavery was prominent in America. Most of the people said that since blacks are different from whites, to them that meant that white people had certain rights and opportunities that blacks didn't have. Does that make sense to you? Of course it doesn't now because through the years we have learned to stop being so closedminded about that and have seen the truth. There were a few people back then that believed that slavery was wrong but most people just scoffed at their beliefs and said it was inherently right to do this. This is how I feel about this issue. I feel like I'm trying to get people to see how stupid, and closedminded they're being but they just won't listen or refuse to change their beliefs because that means they were wrong all this time.
 
bananamilk said:
If men are biologically programmed to spread their seeds into every women out there then what about the men who are more selective in choosing who they sleep with? Should they be called insulting names and looked down upon because they're not living up to their biological duties? Don't be jealous that women have power over men in a category, which in this case is sex. I think that men go by this old way of thinking because they're brainwashed into it by society, their egos needs for them to be more powerful over us wee women in every way (jobs, position of authority, money, household, sex, etc.), and/or insecurity with themselves as to their sexual techniques and prowess. If you go by the old way of thinking (sexual women=sluts, sexual men=studs) and don't think you fall into the aforementioned category, then you're in denial babe. Women are brainwashed into thinking that expressing your sexuality is degrading, disrespectful of yourself and "dirty". No wonder many women have trouble reaching orgasms and letting go in bed. All their lives they have had to repress their sexual urges because of the faulty teaching. Then men complain about women not being adventurous enough or sexual enough in bed?! Hello!!! If you and others in this world would stop shaming sexual women (their style of dressing, flirting, graphically talking about and expressing their love of sex, multiple partners, etc.) then we wouldn't have this problem.

There is a difference between humans and animals. That's why scientists put us in separate categories. It's normal for animals to mate with their family members but do you see other humans doing their "biological duty" by having sex with family? No, not most people. We are not here on this world to just procreate. With animals yes all they do is eat, sleep, and mate. However humans have the power of reason and logical thinking (well some) which is why we contemplate about religion, ethics, jobs, family, relationships, our place and meaning in this world, etc. Humans are not as simple as animals are so please people stop using that old tired biological programming bullshit in your arguments. "Well it's biologically programmed in men to cheat, look at the animals!" Ughhhhh! Somebody get me a gun! Men and women cheat because basically they're insecure with themselves and are too cowardly to tell people the truth about how they feel. Or they're just cruel bitches! Men just use that biological EXCUSE to validate to themselves and to others that it's not really their fault. It gets them out of taking responsibility for their actions.

Calling someone an insulting name such as "whore" is judging someone negatively. Just because others do it doesn't mean you should follow them. Most men are taught to date around and sleep around with as many women as possible. It's seen on t.v, movies, music, even in the family when dads high five their sons for "scoring" and the moms just say "boys will be boys" bullshit. That's a large part of the reason why in general women are choosy and men aren't. So since it's in our genes for women to be more emotional and men logical, then women shouldn't work in business or hold management positions? What's the point of having a custody battle over a mom and dad if it's a mom's biological duty to raise the kids? Men and women are different, due to a large extent on how we're brought up in this world, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same opportunities, privileges and be treated differently.

This whole argument reminds me of when black slavery was prominent in America. Most of the people said that since blacks are different from whites, to them that meant that white people had certain rights and opportunities that blacks didn't have. Does that make sense to you? Of course it doesn't now because through the years we have learned to stop being so closedminded about that and have seen the truth. There were a few people back then that believed that slavery was wrong but most people just scoffed at their beliefs and said it was inherently right to do this. This is how I feel about this issue. I feel like I'm trying to get people to see how stupid, and closedminded they're being but they just won't listen or refuse to change their beliefs because that means they were wrong all this time.



WTF ?!

I like the way you put words in my mouth, and characterize me as someone else..

I was GENERALIZING about the fact that males have more sex drive, that doesn't mean some guys are not selective.

How many times are you going to call me jealous? I'm not, I do very well with the ladies, trust me.

Society brainwashing women into not expressing their sexuality because it's degrading? What fucking rock are you living under? This is 2003 ! and you're not living in Afghanistan !

Btw, society DOES NOT influence me, or the general populace to the extent you say it does...there is such a thing as natural instincts. And I wasn't 'TAUGHT' to score with as many women as possible. Don't YOU have a mind of your own?

I'm not here insulting anyone. I don't call women sluts for sleeping around. Heck, I wish there were more of them !
Guys call women sluts when they go off with someone else after being rejected lol.
 
"Society brainwashing women into not expressing their sexuality because it's degrading? What fucking rock are you living under? This is 2003 ! and you're not living in Afghanistan !"

Where have you been? Yes I know what year it is and things have improved for women sexually somewhat but is it near equality? No I didn't think so. If a woman is dressed provocatively, what do people call her? Yea a slut. If a woman vocally expresses how much she likes sex with men (oral, anal, vaginal etc.), she is called a whore. If a woman likes to flirt and dance sexily she is called a tramp. If she has one night stands or has sex with men who are not her boyfriend/husband she is looked down upon. How many more examples do I have to give so you'll see straight? You are the one who is naive if you think women's sexuality is accepted in society equally as a man's. It's just like when some people say we don't have racism anymore. Bunch of bullshit!

"I was GENERALIZING about the fact that males have more sex drive, that doesn't mean some guys are not selective"

Well so you can generalize that most males have more of a sex drive than most women but there are still exceptions to the rule right? Well how come you can't make exceptions when it comes to women? Just like men, not all women are exactly the same. This might surprise you but some women can actually separate sex with love. Some women only want sex with a man and nothing else. And this might really shock you but some of these women are confident, smart, beautiful, women that just are really horny and want some dick and no talk. So if a man doesn't go by what he's biologically programmed to do it's ok but if a woman goes against her biological programming she's looked down upon?! That makes absolutely no sense!

So the point is why are women looked down upon for having sex or being sexual? Is it because sex deep down inside is still looked upon as something dirty and bad if done by a woman not within the confines of a relationship? I think so.
 
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"Btw, society DOES NOT influence me, or the general populace to the extent you say it does...there is such a thing as natural instincts. And I wasn't 'TAUGHT' to score with as many women as possible. Don't YOU have a mind of your own?"

You say that but you believe what you've been taught by yes society. I have a mind of my own and people have tried to brainwash me into thinking sexual women are degrading or I should only have sex with someone I love if I respect myself yada yada yada. However since I have a mind of my own and actually question things I have come to the conclusion that these people are wrong and ignorant. This whole double standard began when women had hardly any freedoms and were looked as inferior compared to men. It's a shame that this way of thinking still exists in our modern society when women have more freedoms in other areas of life.
 
I was GENERALIZING about the fact that males have more sex drive, that doesn't mean some guys are not selective.

brace yourself here comes another shocker. women have a high sex drive like guys do
 
I think the same about men as I do women. They should both treat themselves with respect.

I know women who have have intercourse with MANY men even at a young age...and it baffles me to think about WHY they would treat themselves in this way. I look at men the same way.

I could not imagine having a one night stand...ever. I do not see the point. I could not imagine having sex with someone that I could not see myelf marrying in the future.

Just my opinion though...

B True
 
I think I have held the "sexual advantage" over most of the women I have enountered so far. Keep your generalizations and stereotypes to yourself.

"cause if you don't know, now you know,nigga"-BIG
 
DepressiveJuice said:


brace yourself here comes another shocker. women have a high sex drive like guys do


Fact: Men masturbate 10 (maybe 9) times more often than women

Fact:women would never pay for sex

Fact: women hardly ever watch porn

Fact: 99 times(maybe 98) out of a 100 men make the first move


You were saying... ?
 
bananamilk said:
"Society brainwashing women into not expressing their sexuality because it's degrading? What fucking rock are you living under? This is 2003 ! and you're not living in Afghanistan !"

Where have you been? Yes I know what year it is and things have improved for women sexually somewhat but is it near equality? No I didn't think so. If a woman is dressed provocatively, what do people call her? Yea a slut. If a woman vocally expresses how much she likes sex with men (oral, anal, vaginal etc.), she is called a whore. If a woman likes to flirt and dance sexily she is called a tramp. If she has one night stands or has sex with men who are not her boyfriend/husband she is looked down upon. How many more examples do I have to give so you'll see straight? You are the one who is naive if you think women's sexuality is accepted in society equally as a man's. It's just like when some people say we don't have racism anymore. Bunch of bullshit!

"I was GENERALIZING about the fact that males have more sex drive, that doesn't mean some guys are not selective"

Well so you can generalize that most males have more of a sex drive than most women but there are still exceptions to the rule right? Well how come you can't make exceptions when it comes to women? Just like men, not all women are exactly the same. This might surprise you but some women can actually separate sex with love. Some women only want sex with a man and nothing else. And this might really shock you but some of these women are confident, smart, beautiful, women that just are really horny and want some dick and no talk. So if a man doesn't go by what he's biologically programmed to do it's ok but if a woman goes against her biological programming she's looked down upon?! That makes absolutely no sense!

So the point is why are women looked down upon for having sex or being sexual? Is it because sex deep down inside is still looked upon as something dirty and bad if done by a woman not within the confines of a relationship? I think so.



Women shouldn't be so concerned about what people think of them dressing provocatively, sex talk, flirting..
Honestly. Who gives a shit?
I don't think any woman who does these things are considered sluts, whores, tramps.. and most MEN don't either.

It's my belief that women who do these things, do it to look good, to express themselves, be admired, get some attention (although some go as far as teasing- women love doing that), and possibly to attract a potential mate.

And your thoughts on the women who separate sex from love...VERY RARE ! Truthfully, they have great difficulty with that one !
It never lasts long if they do. That's why there are so many one night stands..


Why can't you just face the facts that the sexes are different?
 
ANABOLICK1 said:



Fact: Men masturbate 10 (maybe 9) times more often than women

Fact:women would never pay for sex

Fact: women hardly ever watch porn

Fact: 99 times(maybe 98) out of a 100 men make the first move


You were saying... ?


the third one isnt really a fact. women dont need to do the second one and the fourth one really doesnt relate to a high sex drive. women's sex drive is as high as a males
 
Haha those are not facts. I masturbate a shit load and since I'm a woman I can do it over and over again without waiting in between. I've been doing it since I was seven too. Women don't need to pay for sex since we can get some dick anywhere. I love watching porn and have watched porn since I was a kid, and it's not the softcore shit you're thinking. Men make the first move because that's culturally learned even in this day and age.


"Women shouldn't be so concerned about what people think of them dressing provocatively, sex talk, flirting..
Honestly. Who gives a shit?"

Of course a boy would say that. But anyways most girls go through that name calling thing when they're still in junior high and high school where they're still at that impressionable age. It affects them psychologically.

"I don't think any woman who does these things are considered sluts, whores, tramps.. and most MEN don't either." That's nice that you don't think so but like you said in the first post you put in this thread you explained why men call women those names so you do know that they do and think that way. Stop contradicting yourself.

"And your thoughts on the women who separate sex from love...VERY RARE ! Truthfully, they have great difficulty with that one !
It never lasts long if they do. That's why there are so many one night stands.."

Haha it's equally VERY RARE for men to only have sex with women they love and care about. But that doesn't matter. What matters is why should someone be insulted and judged if they don't live by their "biological duties"?

Oh and another thing since you're all into this whole biological reasoning, how come if men are supposed to spread their seeds with as many women as they can their dicks have to wait awhile to start working again, but women don't have to or not nearly as long? Biologically wouldn't that mean that women are made to sleep around with as many men while the other men recover? If all women are supposed to do is get pregnant then shouldn't they sleep around all the time to do so?


"Why can't you just face the facts that the sexes are different?"
I never said they weren't different. I said you should accept the differences but treat both genders equally. I know it's in human nature to be scared of things or people who are different but try not to be.
 
DepressiveJuice said:



the third one isnt really a fact. women dont need to do the second one and the fourth one really doesnt relate to a high sex drive. women's sex drive is as high as a males


Fourth one doesn't relate ?! It's all about THE DRIVE !!
 
bananamilk said:
Haha those are not facts. I masturbate a shit load and since I'm a woman I can do it over and over again without waiting in between. I've been doing it since I was seven too. Women don't need to pay for sex since we can get some dick anywhere. I love watching porn and have watched porn since I was a kid, and it's not the softcore shit you're thinking. Men make the first move because that's culturally learned even in this day and age.


"Women shouldn't be so concerned about what people think of them dressing provocatively, sex talk, flirting..
Honestly. Who gives a shit?"

Of course a boy would say that. But anyways most girls go through that name calling thing when they're still in junior high and high school where they're still at that impressionable age. It affects them psychologically.

"I don't think any woman who does these things are considered sluts, whores, tramps.. and most MEN don't either." That's nice that you don't think so but like you said in the first post you put in this thread you explained why men call women those names so you do know that they do and think that way. Stop contradicting yourself.

"And your thoughts on the women who separate sex from love...VERY RARE ! Truthfully, they have great difficulty with that one !
It never lasts long if they do. That's why there are so many one night stands.."

Haha it's equally VERY RARE for men to only have sex with women they love and care about. But that doesn't matter. What matters is why should someone be insulted and judged if they don't live by their "biological duties"?

Oh and another thing since you're all into this whole biological reasoning, how come if men are supposed to spread their seeds with as many women as they can their dicks have to wait awhile to start working again, but women don't have to or not nearly as long? Biologically wouldn't that mean that women are made to sleep around with as many men while the other men recover? If all women are supposed to do is get pregnant then shouldn't they sleep around all the time to do so?


"Why can't you just face the facts that the sexes are different?"
I never said they weren't different. I said you should accept the differences but treat both genders equally. I know it's in human nature to be scared of things or people who are different but try not to be.


You're unbelievable.

Time and again, twisting my words.

What I said in my first post is that women are seen as whores when they SLEEP AROUND !! NOT for dressing provocatively, flirting etc.. no contradiction here. But nice try.


Your arguments are sure getting weak, but I'll address them anyway.
Yes, it's VERY RARE for men to only have sex with women they love and care about. That just strengthens MY argument. But really, I don't need your help.

And your whole PHYSIOLOGICAL comparison is just plain stupid.
The sex drive primarily begins in the brain. In men,the brain sends signals to the genitals, which in turn produces testosterone, the primary SEX HORMONE, which effects behaviour, libido(sex drive). Men produce waaaaayyy more testosterone. In women, the main hormone is estrogen.

BM, this is biology 101 :rolleyes:
 
Just answer this one simple question since it seems like if I write too much you just get yourself confused. Ok so you said women are seen as whores because they are going against their "biological duty" but it's ok for a man because that's what Mother Nature intended for males to do right? B]So my question is how come the men that do not go by their biological programming are not judged negatively, but women that do not go by their biological programming are?[/B] We have already established the fact that both of these groups are in the minority but that's not the question. Just answer it, plain and simple. Males can go either way but women have to live by a strict code?!

My whole physiological explanation is just as stupid as your reasoning for why there's no double standard. I wrote it because I thought you might have been better able to relate to that and see how dumb your reasoning is. Haha I guess it worked.=)
 
Anabolic, those are facts. Just because your write "fact" doesn't make it a fact. LMFAO, your too much buddy. Man you need to think a little bit more before you write something down and put your name to it. Of course women make the first move, watch porn, pay for sex and masturbate. Sorry women don't come up to you, they are all over me. I've watched a couple masterbate, but they don't readily admit to it. Alot of my ex gf liked to watch porn, also we had alot of mirrors. I didn't see here shutting here eyes.

Bananamilk, true you could probably get "a dick" when you really want it, but you can't get the one you want quite so easily. You know what I mean. Sure you can go grab Chris Farley and get him to do whatever you want but why would you?
 
jubei said:
Anabolic, those are facts. Just because your write "fact" doesn't make it a fact. LMFAO, your too much buddy. Man you need to think a little bit more before you write something down and put your name to it. Of course women make the first move, watch porn, pay for sex and masturbate. Sorry women don't come up to you, they are all over me. I've watched a couple masterbate, but they don't readily admit to it. Alot of my ex gf liked to watch porn, also we had alot of mirrors. I didn't see here shutting here eyes.

Bananamilk, true you could probably get "a dick" when you really want it, but you can't get the one you want quite so easily. You know what I mean. Sure you can go grab Chris Farley and get him to do whatever you want but why would you?


Those are facts. Percentages may vary. You're missing my point.
I never said women never make the first move. Never said none watch porn. You know women who pay for sex?!
As I said earlier, I do alright with women, and have been hit on b4..

You're just an ignorant dumbass who's not following what I'm saying..
 
I started off addressing your "facts". I'll say it again, they are not facts. If you think they are please don't respond because you are obviously too stupid to tell the difference between a fact and an opinion. How could "women hardly ever watch porn" be a fact? What does hardly ever mean? Also I'm curious about your percentages on women masturbating and making the first move. Is this primary research, and if not what is your original source. I'm sure it's close at hand so you can let me know.

An "ignorant dumbass"? Not following your point. What is your point, other than to flaunt your own ignorance of females. Sorry you think I'm arrogant, and that refuting your "facts" with personal experience makes me a dumbass. You're weak.
 
bananamilk said:
Just answer this one simple question since it seems like if I write too much you just get yourself confused. Ok so you said women are seen as whores because they are going against their "biological duty" but it's ok for a man because that's what Mother Nature intended for males to do right? B]So my question is how come the men that do not go by their biological programming are not judged negatively, but women that do not go by their biological programming are? We have already established the fact that both of these groups are in the minority but that's not the question. Just answer it, plain and simple. Males can go either way but women have to live by a strict code?!

My whole physiological explanation is just as stupid as your reasoning for why there's no double standard. I wrote it because I thought you might have been better able to relate to that and see how dumb your reasoning is. Haha I guess it worked.=) [/B]




There's no double standard because the sexes are different physically, mentally, emotionally. So you can't compare the two..
In order to establish a double standard, the two have to be exactly alike.

I can't be bothered responding to the rest of your post, it's too long, therefore too confusing for me

:rolleyes:
 
Haha those are not facts. I masturbate a shit load and since I'm a woman I can do it over and over again without waiting in between. I've been doing it since I was seven too. Women don't need to pay for sex since we can get some dick anywhere. I love watching porn and have watched porn since I was a kid, and it's not the softcore shit you're thinking. Men make the first move because that's culturally learned even in this day and age.

Damn-Im in love:p Wheres bananamilk been hiding all these years?!?
 
There's no double standard because the sexes are different physically, mentally, emotionally. So you can't compare the two..

Hmm, interesting perspective. Based on this logic there would be no double standard. Good post.
 
jubei said:
I started off addressing your "facts". I'll say it again, they are not facts. If you think they are please don't respond because you are obviously too stupid to tell the difference between a fact and an opinion. How could "women hardly ever watch porn" be a fact? What does hardly ever mean? Also I'm curious about your percentages on women masturbating and making the first move. Is this primary research, and if not what is your original source. I'm sure it's close at hand so you can let me know.

An "ignorant dumbass"? Not following your point. What is your point, other than to flaunt your own ignorance of females. Sorry you think I'm arrogant, and that refuting your "facts" with personal experience makes me a dumbass. You're weak.


Oh excuse me...let me rephrase one of the FACTS... MEN WATCH WAAAAYYYY MORE PORN THAN WOMEN !!

BETTER ?!?

What are you? A bitch? You sure nitpick like one...
 
Anabolick, you can't answer my question because I've found something you've never thought of huh? Ok so you're saying men have a higher sex drive than women so why aren't men who don't fuck with just anyone not insulted because obviously they aren't physically, emotionally, and mentally built like your average man right? Aren't they like the women who only sleep with people they love even if it's in the minority? I can see the double standard in that because they both treat sex and love the same. So can you answer the question?

Your argument is that since women go against their biology that is why they are called names. However men that go against theirs are not. There can be a double standard in this because in this case both sexes are going against their biological programming except that males can go either way without judgement but women can't. So answer the question? I'm interested in knowing because no one can seem to answer it without going to their previous statement even though it doesn't fit into the question I'm asking. That just means they're stumped or too dumb to see the logic.

Jubei, it is just as easy to get some fine prime grade A dick as it is to get some Chris Farley type ones. I know because I've had the chance to and lots of my other female friends have too.

Vulgar-there's lots of women like me but fear of judgement keeps them hidden. Haha I'm sure you can find some if you look really hard though.=)
 
bananamilk said:
Anabolick, you can't answer my question because I've found something you've never thought of huh? Ok so you're saying men have a higher sex drive than women so why aren't men who don't fuck with just anyone not insulted because obviously they aren't physically, emotionally, and mentally built like your average man right? Aren't they like the women who only sleep with people they love even if it's in the minority? I can see the double standard in that because they both treat sex and love the same. So can you answer the question?

Your argument is that since women go against their biology that is why they are called names. However men that go against theirs are not. There can be a double standard in this because in this case both sexes are going against their biological programming except that males can go either way without judgement but women can't. So answer the question? I'm interested in knowing because no one can seem to answer it without going to their previous statement even though it doesn't fit into the question I'm asking. That just means they're stumped or too dumb to see the logic.

Jubei, it is just as easy to get some fine prime grade A dick as it is to get some Chris Farley type ones. I know because I've had the chance to and lots of my other female friends have too.

Vulgar-there's lots of women like me but fear of judgement keeps them hidden. Haha I'm sure you can find some if you look really hard though.=)



Men can be called queers.

Is that what you wanted to hear?
I really don't know where you're going with this..
Instead of asking silly questions, make your point. If there is one.

Btw, I like the way you responded to Jubei's post.
'' I've had a chance''...to get good dick.
Translation: A males body part is not enough for me. Must have great personality, charm, be funny, witty...and other prerequisites.

BM, I see you trying so hard to be like a guy. It's admirable.:)
 
Just as easy to get "grade A dick"? I think not. Now you are saying that you can have "any" guy you want just as easily as the fat guy in the corner. This may be almost accurate for the 3 percent of women out there that are drop dead gorgeous and hit on guys who are half drunk in clubs or bars. Also when I say "get" I don't mean he would just use you as a fuck toy for the next 45 minutes and then forget your name if he ever knew it in the first place.


For the rest of the times in life things are different. If an average girl goes up to way above average guy and tries to pick him up what do you think will happen. He'll tell here to get lost, or say he's already seeing someone or whatever. If you can get any man so easily post a pic of you and your boyfriend and well be the judge.
 
Anabolick-men can be called queers but you don't really see that happening now do you? I'm talking realistically here and you know that men don't get shit whatever they do when it comes to sex either way but women do when they go against Mother Nature. If you don't see the double standard in that or you can't admit to it then you're just immature, stupid and pathetic. By the way I'm not trying to talk like a boy. That's the way I've always talked and always will. It's better than disrespecting women by referring to them as bitches like you do. I guess it makes you feel like you're cool and more manly? Haha whatever, you're pathetic! You should question everything you've been taught instead of following the rest of the herd of sheep. It can only benefit you.

Jubei-Your question was in reference to Anabolick's post about how women don't pay for sex so I don't know why you're changing the question to getting an actual boyfriend. But whatever it's easy to get dick whether it be from a fine guy or some fatass ugly guy. Same for getting a boyfriend. If you don't recognize that women do have a sexual advantage over men then you're lost in your own little world. Haha whatever you're both pathetic! I'm done talking to both of you dicks because it's getting boring not talking to someone on a higher intellectual level. I'm out!
 
Stupid bitch. You don't know me. You think your operating on some higher intellectual level when everything you have said is common knowlege, and don't confuse the volume of your posts with their quality. I guess you like the sound the keys make when you type, but you have added nothing but insults and your own ignorance to this discussion.

I am in my own little world, in fact I don't know anybody whos not. I don't care about what advantage you may have over some fat guys or old men or horny 17 year old boys. I'm concerned with myself, and I sure as hell would't be interested in someone with that kind of attitude. Don't get me wrong, I love women in general, but I can't stand you.

Fact: I turn women down on a regular basis
Fact: I have made women beg for sex
Fact: Women lose their game when a man is confident
Fact: When you finally get some GOOD dick you will stop being such a man hater.

Cause you know, I got all the banana milk you need right here.
 
jubei both my pic and hers have been posted. my looks are above average and bananamilk is just a total babe. you know how to look them up- im sure you're not as stupid as you appear to be :) dont forget your glass of hatorade on the way out bro ;)
 
hatorade? You watch too much jenny jones, and I never disputed what SHE looked like. There is a difference between hostile and stupid.

Fact: Depressive Juice is lacking "good dick" thats why banana is such a man hater.
 
lol she isnt a man hater- she just doesnt like idiots. if i wasnt good in bed i wouldnt be able to make her squirt
 
Okay enough already. You haven't added anything, neither has you gf. You 2 just like to run you mouth. Man if I was with her I'd be depressed as well. You keep calling me stupid other than that you havent said anything. Good for you. And where are those god damn pictures. I mean, I was really looking forward to looking at them.
 
I know in the picture forum but there is like 90 pages of pictures. Son?? Who the hell do you think you are Redman?
 
jesus man how dense are you? the title states that its her pics. do you need help wiping your ass too?
 
bananamilk said:
Anabolick-men can be called queers but you don't really see that happening now do you? I'm talking realistically here and you know that men don't get shit whatever they do when it comes to sex either way but women do when they go against Mother Nature. If you don't see the double standard in that or you can't admit to it then you're just immature, stupid and pathetic. By the way I'm not trying to talk like a boy. That's the way I've always talked and always will. It's better than disrespecting women by referring to them as bitches like you do. I guess it makes you feel like you're cool and more manly? Haha whatever, you're pathetic! You should question everything you've been taught instead of following the rest of the herd of sheep. It can only benefit you.

Jubei-Your question was in reference to Anabolick's post about how women don't pay for sex so I don't know why you're changing the question to getting an actual boyfriend. But whatever it's easy to get dick whether it be from a fine guy or some fatass ugly guy. Same for getting a boyfriend. If you don't recognize that women do have a sexual advantage over men then you're lost in your own little world. Haha whatever you're both pathetic! I'm done talking to both of you dicks because it's getting boring not talking to someone on a higher intellectual level. I'm out!


What your problem is is that you're trying to portray women into something that they're not. Including yourself. You're in total denial. You claim you have the sexual advantage. Yes, you have the advantage of getting sex just about whenever you want it,I'll give you that. BUT, the irony is that it's not a woman's agenda!
They look for a lot more than just a dick. On the other hand, guys are not as selective when it comes to dating, because all we want to do is sow our wild oats. Not to say we don't want a keeper.

I still find your question to be truly retarded. You're looking for an argument that's not even there. You just sound JEALOUS that there is no name you can call a guy for being what he is. Why don't you make one up? If it'll make you feel better..
 
If i did need help wiping my ass, would you help me? Sounded awful lot like an offer. Bananamilk just got roasted pretty good. She has no point. She is just a rapid man hater trying to pick a fight. I think she belongs on the anabolic board with all that test in her system. Then her boyfriend starts to stick his two cents in with his ass whiping fetish. I think Hanz has a thread that was wanting your advice. You poor depressed bastard. Whipe your own ass.
 
she obviously called you two out and you said she has no point. ha ok sure. lets face it, she made you two look like idiots :angel:
 
Read the entire thread, or go talk to your rooster cooch of a girlfriend. Actually she's a banana cooch. :D
 
DepressiveJuice said:
she obviously called you two out and you said she has no point. ha ok sure. lets face it, she made you two look like idiots :angel:


What thread were you reading?? You're a nipple.
 
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