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THE ultimate SARMS stack...

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I'm sure by now, most of the people that hang around EF a lot know something or the other about the compounds that we know as SARMS. Hell, quite a few people have probably used SARMS as well at least once (on their rats of course). But lately, stacking different types of SARMS has grown more and more popular, and some people, myself included, have begun messing around with stacking our favorite SARMS together to make a great combination. Thus, the triple stack was born.

I'm sure a lot of people have heard about the triple stack consisting of the SARMS S4, OSTA, and GW-50, but it doesnt seem to me like a lot of people really grasp the concept of how and why all of these stack so well together. So, I've created this post to try to condense some information for everyone interested in running this amazing combination. First and foremost, I'd like to explain from my perspective the three biggest reasons that this particular stack differs from other stacks;

1. The nature of SARMS. As most of us know, SARMS stands for Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators. This is scientific mumbojumbo for saying that each of these compounds, in their own unique way, binds to their own specific type of androgen receptors and greatly increases their sensitivity. These SARMs carefully choose which type of androgen receptor they bind to, thus they are "selective". This particular property makes stacking SARMs incredibly effective - none of the chemicals interfere with each other and your results are maximized. The particular function of each SARM is elaborated in the links provided, but the basics are as follows - S4 is androgenic in its nature with mild anabolic effects, OSTA is almost purely anabolic, and GW-50 is anti-catabolic (yes, this is different from anabolic). The functions of these three lead into my next point about why this stack is so effective.

2. Versatility. I'm sure anyone who has ever designed a stack of anything knows that it can be a pain trying to tailor the fine details or your supplement of AAS regiment to suit your particular needs for your goals. Generally, you have to choose between retaining a shit load of water and probably some fat weight in order to put on large amounts of muscle, or sacrificing a big portion of your muscle growth in order to stay lean and shredded on a cut cycle. The supplement world is not so different in this respect - for example, taking cutting supplements is generally going to cause you to go catabolic and taking loads of creatine to bulk is going to make you look bloated and retain water. This is part of the benefit of the triple stack - no matter what you're trying to do, all of your bases are covered and you will be able to put on muscle while losing fat weight (granted that your lifting routine and diet are good). We will start with GW-50, an active agonist that activates the metabolic pathways that use fat for energy instead of other tissues. This has a profound anti-catabolic effect, meaning that you wont lose muscle while taking GW-50, even on a catabolic diet. This may seem like a useless property when bulking, but GW-50 has other great effects like increased endurance and recovery time in between sets. Secondly is OSTA or Ostarine SARMs (MK-2866). OSTA is unique in that it is exclusively anabolic in its effects. On OSTA, your muscle recovery and anabolism is increased and your muscles feel full and healthy all day long. S4 is another unique compound that has relatively high androgenic activity and mild anabolic activity. This means that S4 generally gives you large amounts of endurance, mild strength increases, and high amounts of energy (GW can also have this final effect). So what does all of this mean? It means that with the combination of these three compounds, you're going to get these effects; anti-catabolism, increased anabolism, increased recovery between workouts, increased recovery between sets, increased endurance, increased fat loss, increased energy levels, and you may also notice increases in strength. This also means that the result of this stack are almost always going to produce a lean look while adding good, clean, long lasting muscle to the frame. Sounds like about everything you could ever want from a stack.

3. Ease. This is a multi-faceted, blanket explanation. The first and greatest thing about SARMs in this respect is that, at least in the U.S., they're LEGALLY AVAILABLE (at sites like www.sarmssearch.com). Always living in fear that one day you're door is going to be busted in by the DEA is stressful and an annoyance/hinderance. For plenty of members here, its worth it, for others, its not. Either way, being able to get a chemical that produces good results without having to worry about a damned thing is a pretty good deal from where I'm standing. The second part of this is simply the ease of administration. Injections can be painful, and even when theyre not, its cumbersome and just not something that everyone enjoys. With SARMs, all doses are administered orally - extracted, popped in the mouth, swallowed, done. Doing the entire triple stack for me takes a grand total of about 30 seconds and once I'm finished, theres no pain, no fear of abcesses, no nothing (with the exception of maybe a little bad taste :evil:). Regardless, its just as easy, if not easier, than swallowing a tablet. The next facet of the ease category is the simple lack of side effects from SARMs. Dealing with gyno, overpumping, joint pain, nausea, night sweats, bloating, irritability and other side effects while on AAS is a real pain in the ass. Not to mention that taking certain types of AAS lands you an extra $200 in the can from having to buy shitloads of support supplements and such. With the triple stack, your worries are kept to a minimum. They are not hepatotoxic like oral steroids are, and therefor, liver support is not necessary. They are also not hard on the kidneys, or any of the other vital organs for that matter. The MOST side effects that you will see will be yellow tinted vision when looking at white objects, splotchy vision when adjusting to new light or waking up, and mild suppression at higher doses (all of these are from S4, more info in the attached threads). MUCH less severe than most AAS, much less hassle, and still solid results. The aspect of PCT is always hotly debated, but there is a fairly common concensus that with SARMs (assuming regular dosing and length) only a mini PCT or a mild PCT at most is required (although running a full PCT after anything never hurts!).

These are, of course, not the only benefits of the SARMs triple stack, but simply the ones that I find to be most important and generalized. Hope this helps anyone looking into SARMs or the triple stack for the first time, but just wanted to throw this up as a reminder about how great SARMs are :artist:.

As an important note; I buy ALL of my SARMs now from the company with the highest purity and quality available - SarmsSearch. They've just released the GW-50 with the highest concentration available on the market and take it from me, you can expect great things from it. Outstanding products with wonderful customer service, give them a shout if you're looking for real results at www.sarmssearch.com

Included below are links to some simple write ups on SARMs that are a good start for a knowledge base.......after promising links I realized that I'm on my laptop without links to my favorite research threads, so I've given the ones that were readily available but still good quality:

OSTA write up thanks to russianstar: RUSSIANSTAR "EXPERIENCES WITH MK-2866...(OSTA-SARMS) Ostarine.sARM S1

Another good general OSTA write up thanks to russianstar: OSTA-SARMS/MK-2866 UNLEASHING ITS ANABOLIC POWER

Yet another good OSTA write up provided by my man gymrat827; http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/osta-write-up-guide-943023.html

A good personal take on S4 and some general info, again provided by russianstar: RUSSIANSTAR "EXPERIENCES WITH sARM S4 Acetamidoxolutamide

A great scientific write up on GW-50 by Juicedporkchop: GW-501516 Profile:
 
Great read here! All useful and informative. I always depend on sarmssearch for my sarms runs, and I always end up satisfied with signifigant muscle gain and fat loss

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Awesome post here my friend. Same here, I'm a loyal SS customer :-)
 
Awesome writeup bro! Also just a question for people who have used S4 multiple times: has there been any negative impact on the gene transcription of the eyes?

I read Russianstar's log and he was worried about irreversible genetic damage from S4
 
Awesome writeup bro! Also just a question for people who have used S4 multiple times: has there been any negative impact on the gene transcription of the eyes?

I read Russianstar's log and he was worried about irreversible genetic damage from S4

Yes that was a concern in clinical trials phase as well. I can tell you this: my eye side effects such as blurry vision, yellow tinted, and blotched vision went away 2 days at the most after starting, so that bodes well.

I can also tell you that I just had a physical a few weeks ago and my vision is the same as it was before I started using S4 (on my rats).

Note that it is still a possibility but it seems like your transcription is fine to me so far.
 
Man towards the end of this stack it seems like a new vein is popping up every damned time I enter the gym! Its fun watching them grow from little guys into big veiny fuckers too :evil:

Sad day though - finally ran out of GW today. I'll be polishing off my OSTA and S4 soon and starting my mini PCT........its been great run!
 
Man towards the end of this stack it seems like a new vein is popping up every damned time I enter the gym! Its fun watching them grow from little guys into big veiny fuckers too :evil:

Sad day though - finally ran out of GW today. I'll be polishing off my OSTA and S4 soon and starting my mini PCT........its been great run!
was the GW good to you buddy? i still have a few weeks left, as I've been playing with dosages. :-) I've really enjoyed it. school has kept me from having the extra time needed to put good effort into a log, but I have definitely loved my first run of SS GW.
 
was the GW good to you buddy? i still have a few weeks left, as I've been playing with dosages. :-) I've really enjoyed it. school has kept me from having the extra time needed to put good effort into a log, but I have definitely loved my first run of SS GW.

Same here I didnt want to keep a log because school has been keeping me busy......I dont like logging unless I can put some effort into it.

But I agree 100%, my Sarmssearch GW has treated me very well! I went 10mgs the whole time and I still saw profound effects, its dfinitely some good stuff that I'm going to have to play with later on.

Thats too bad that you couldnt log, I was looking forward to reading it!
 
Awesome post bro! Thank you! I'm really digging all this increased recovery n endurance gains. Where/how is everyone the sarms triple stack in regards to your gear. Would it be best to run sarms pct then gear? Or could I be a cheapskate and run sarms then jump on my and then pct? Just wondering how to plan my calendar :) great post again! Thanks
 
Awesome post bro! Thank you! I'm really digging all this increased recovery n endurance gains. Where/how is everyone the sarms triple stack in regards to your gear. Would it be best to run sarms pct then gear? Or could I be a cheapskate and run sarms then jump on my and then pct? Just wondering how to plan my calendar :) great post again! Thanks

If you're going to run a triple stack, its probably best to run it as a stand alone in my opinion just because you dont really need anything else with it - like I said, it really does everything you could want except put on massive amounts of size.

Otherwise, I would either run your SARMS in PCT (if youre using OSTA) or as a bridge between cycles. Running SARMs before you run gear isnt putting them to best use because theyre such a good compound to recover while still making gains.
 
Excellent read just what i was looking for.. I'm Defo trying this stack could u give me a little pct advice.. what and how long to take cheers

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Excellent read just what i was looking for.. I'm Defo trying this stack could u give me a little pct advice.. what and how long to take cheers

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Thats another of the great things about this stack - doesnt require an extensive PCT.

Run 4 weeks of either Unleashed or Test Infusion coupled with 4 weeks double dose of Bridge and you'll be golden.

Enjoy man!
 
Dude they never have ANY discount codes!!!!

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You get what you pay for my friend...items are dosed higher so they last longer as opposed to having to purchase 15 bottles and shit
 
You get what you pay for my friend...items are dosed higher so they last longer as opposed to having to purchase 15 bottles and shit

Just for the record, that statement is only partially true. SS doses their S-4 and GW higher, but their Osta is half the strength of that at Uniquemicals. Add in that their Osta costs 3x as much and you are paying 6 times as much per equivalent dose to get SS over Unique.

Unique is also cheaper per equivalent dose for S-4 (3.75x the cost).

SS is actually cheaper for GW though.
 
That 'buying 15 bottles' reference was regarding the GW...

SS's S4 is dosed at 100mg/ml whereas Unique's is dosed at 50, I've never had any interest in doing Osta therefore I don't have personal experience with purchasing it...the other two items, however, are both in fact dosed higher. I do apologize for not being absolutely clear, my sir..

Both companies are sponsors of this board therefore they're both good places, buy from where you want lol but when it comes to me, someone who has extensive experience with SS's products, I believe the prices are justified in the purity of the items as well as the results I get from them.
 
I've had excellent results from sarmssearch Ostarine and S4 many times, but today is the first time I have tried their GW. Started it today to help shred so,e bodyfat, so I'm really looking forward to the results!
It'll do well for ya buddy. I love the cardio help it provides...you literally have to force yourself to quit, you feel like you can just go on forever, lol
 
It'll do well for ya buddy. I love the cardio help it provides...you literally have to force yourself to quit, you feel like you can just go on forever, lol

Nice...I am going to be putting my lovely female rat on a SARMs stack of 12.5mg of MK-2866 and GW from Unique here in the next couple of weeks, along with Keto Burn, N2 Burn, N2 Slin, Gear, Raspberry Ketones, and some other wellness supplements...see how she responds...I will keep a log for her, unless she wants to do it herself.

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Oh heck yes. Sign her up! Ill take care of her in the chick section :)
 
Oh heck yes. Sign her up! Ill take care of her in the chick section :)

Thanks girl...I knew I could count on you ;). I will sign her up as Mrs. MuscleAddiction, keep a look out for her, once this happens she will be keeping tabs on Mr. MuscleAddiction lol!

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Thanks girl...I knew I could count on you ;). I will sign her up as Mrs. MuscleAddiction, keep a look out for her, once this happens she will be keeping tabs on Mr. MuscleAddiction lol!

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Lol! Sounds good :)
 
Just for the record, that statement is only partially true. SS doses their S-4 and GW higher, but their Osta is half the strength of that at Uniquemicals. Add in that their Osta costs 3x as much and you are paying 6 times as much per equivalent dose to get SS over Unique.

Unique is also cheaper per equivalent dose for S-4 (3.75x the cost).

SS is actually cheaper for GW though.

Be careful how you phrase that. Unique's OSTA is not "stronger" per say, it has a higher concentration. Frankly I would say that I think SS OSTA is "stronger" based on my results.

I'm with psizzle on this one. You're absolutely right that unique has cheaper S4 and OSTA, and you're absolutely free to purchase from wherever you want. They're board sponsors so its not as if you're getting fake chems. But my results with SS have been stellar - always. Other companies for me have been hit or miss, and even when I hit, it just doesnt seem to compare.

Good input here though, keep it coming!
 
Nice...I am going to be putting my lovely female rat on a SARMs stack of 12.5mg of MK-2866 and GW from Unique here in the next couple of weeks, along with Keto Burn, N2 Burn, N2 Slin, Gear, Raspberry Ketones, and some other wellness supplements...see how she responds...I will keep a log for her, unless she wants to do it herself.

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That's quite the stack for Mrs MA!!
 
Be careful how you phrase that. Unique's OSTA is not "stronger" per say, it has a higher concentration. Frankly I would say that I think SS OSTA is "stronger" based on my results.

I'm with psizzle on this one. You're absolutely right that unique has cheaper S4 and OSTA, and you're absolutely free to purchase from wherever you want. They're board sponsors so its not as if you're getting fake chems. But my results with SS have been stellar - always. Other companies for me have been hit or miss, and even when I hit, it just doesnt seem to compare.

Good input here though, keep it coming!

By "stronger" I meant dosed higher/more concentrated. Wasn't meant as a knock against SS at all, but more just to point out that neither of the two is universally cheaper or more concentrated. As someone not affiliated/connected to either company wanted to give a by the numbers review of the products offered by both. Unique is cheaper on 2 of the 3 but less concentrated on 2 of 3. SS is cheaper on 1 of 3 but cheaper on 1 of 3.
 
By "stronger" I meant dosed higher/more concentrated. Wasn't meant as a knock against SS at all, but more just to point out that neither of the two is universally cheaper or more concentrated. As someone not affiliated/connected to either company wanted to give a by the numbers review of the products offered by both. Unique is cheaper on 2 of the 3 but less concentrated on 2 of 3. SS is cheaper on 1 of 3 but cheaper on 1 of 3.
Yes very true - I was just clarifying terminology! Good assessment.
 
You get what you pay for my friend...items are dosed higher so they last longer as opposed to having to purchase 15 bottles and shit

^^this right here..SS is the place to go, dont cut corners with these products for your lab rats.. not something to play around with .
 
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^^this right here..SS is the place to go, dont cut corners with these products for your lab rats.. not something to play around with .

Couldnt agree more! You really dont want to go with cheap quality with research chems......wont ever turn out well
 
Couldnt agree more! You really dont want to go with cheap quality with research chems......wont ever turn out well
I'm a perfect example. Had serious issues that still kinda linger today... With SS I've never had a single issue.
 
ON the GW-40 and VAR now and I love it!

Yes for SARMS SEARCH.COM
Oh damn...I bet that's a bad ass run right there.

Just running the SS GW by itself gives my rats awesome fat loss along with the endurance aid...I can only imagine what adding in a notorious cutter like Var is doing :)
 
My Unique SARMs/Albuterol stack cycle is coming to an end and I'm going to be sad to see it go. I've made more progress on the SARMs than I ever thought possible.
 
Depends on the sarm, but the sides occur regardless of age. The only possible thing where age could be a factor is if your test levels are already suppressed, but I've never researched age playing a factor here... Other than that, whether it's a triple stack from SarmsSearch or just one at a time, it'll do well depending on your rat's goals.

And to the random guy who felt the need to jump in and criticize the placement of this thread: Sarms are neither seen as a supplement nor a steroid. They are viewed as something one can take if they don't want to do steroids, but don't want the possible liver toxicity of a pro-hormone.
 
kinda odd, to be talking about a supplement in the anabolics forum.

research chemicals are one of those grey areas; they don't really fit into either category perfectly.

Its not creatine, but its not tren either, so where do you put it?

Either way their effects are much, much closer to AAS than they are to supplementation, especially with Sarmssearch.
 
research chemicals are one of those grey areas; they don't really fit into either category perfectly.

Its not creatine, but its not tren either, so where do you put it?

Either way their effects are much, much closer to AAS than they are to supplementation, especially with Sarmssearch.

agreed sarms belongs no where near the supplement section. and whoever treats them like a supplement, could hurt themselves and needs to educate themselves futher.
 
research chemicals are one of those grey areas; they don't really fit into either category perfectly.

Its not creatine, but its not tren either, so where do you put it?

Either way their effects are much, much closer to AAS than they are to supplementation, especially with Sarmssearch.
Well said my friend. And I agree, SS is who I trust :)
 
sarms search is the best without question.

Any inside info on if sarmssearch plans to expand the roster of products? IMO they have the highest grade and most trustable products on the net, i would be very excited for one, to hear they are.
 
Are these taken orally or are they topical solutions

Sarms are orals my man.

And hurricane, we haven't heard anything on our end yet, but rest assured we will all be bursting with excitement if and when we do! SS takes its time and gets it right the first time, which I can certainly appreciate.
 
My rats have never used that with their SS GW, they just take it solo. Maybe I'll change it up and surprise them one day lol
 
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