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The small legs syndrome

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Mtlmuscle

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:mad: LEGS ARE LIKE HEIGHT, YOU ARE BORN WITH IT AND CAN`T DO A DAMM THING ABOUT IT

Now that I have complained let me elaborate. But first the question if you guys don’t want to read the official complaint and facts thing below.

Q: Anyone here successfully managed to increase their never-ever-doomed-from-birth legs? And I really hope to get a true personal success story from someone who almost gave up after 10 years and discovered the secret recipe?


15 years of bodybuilding, now 36 and I just want to cry. I have the same leg size as when I started 15 years ago. I am 5 11, 192 pounds with a wonderful 19 inches for my legs. Genetics: if you go to this link http://www.juara.com/sigs/bodybuilding2/planner/goals.shtml, you will be able to have an idea of your “genetic potential” So, this thing predicts that I should at least have 24 inches legs and that’s a very conservative estimate. WELL NOT!

I have done it all: had personal trainers, did squats heavy, light, high reps and low reps, did leg training one day a week and 3 days a week. I have put 15 years of focus on my legs, read everything, always feeling that I was the idiot who did not know how to train, how to lift, even done steroids (real ones prescribed by a doc and taken directly from the pharmacist). But, at the same time, noticing all these guys training in all these gyms, and more importantly, from looking at those teenagers coming to our emergency room (hospital owrker) and how “IF YOU WANT BIG LEGS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH THEM” is so true. I have worked with trisomic kids that never ever work out because of their mental state and yet, 2 of them had big legs, no joke. I have seen so often the 5’6” guys come into the gym and have bigger legs than I after 6 months. And all the guys with big legs are convinced it is because of their workout and discipline: if workouts and food was the answer, I would have 33 inches legs by now.
More importantly, (I am an epidemiologist so numbers are my things) I can safely say that on any given day at my gym, only 1 guy out of 30 has those big legs, not even huge, just muscular legs while all the other guys have none. The worst anyone can do is ask for advice from the huge legs guys, it’s like the 5’6” guy asking the 6’2” guy tricks to gain height?
If I could only gain one inch once in my life. Problem is that from all the readings I have done, there seem to be guys out there who did exactly that. I am sure it is some strange thing like only doing leg raises every day of the weeks for an hour. Some totally new thing cause all the other stuff has not worked.
To all you big leg guys out there, be happy, very happy.
Tanks
Glenn
 
i know the problem man..im 6'2..and its all legs..i cant add size there no matter what i do. squats are akward because of my height..and all the other exercises doesnt seem to do shit..but i keep trying
 
I still don't see why SO MANY people want size on their legs.

Having large muscular legs does not seem very practical for me, perhaps for rugby or grid iron players, but not for the average person. And certainly not if you are doing stand-up fighting.

hardgainer (fast legs)
 
I'm in the same boat. I have a pretty wide upperbody, but my legs are very skinny. God, I was hoping I could change that.

Also, the link you gave didn't work.
 
Hardgainer, you are wrong about legs not doing anything for stand-up fighting. I don't remember the breakdown completely but something like %50 of your power comes from your legs when throwing a punch (when done properly). Legs are also very important for balance.
 
My legs suck too, I've only been training them consistantly for about 18 months, but they aren't comeing along like the rest of my body. Lately though, I've been starting with leg press instead of squat for high volume and realy, REALY trying to feel the contraction and am starting to see the results. I think I just havn't learned to flex them good enough during exercise - but am learning.
 
damn right u need ur legs for fighting...

when i started boxing - we were taught the main force of the upper-cut is to come from the legs not from the shoulders...

but can't really bulk up the legs - b/c indoing that u gain weight so then u'd have to compete against a higher weight class...

I try to do long extensive workouts for legs for strength and endurance.... try to keep the size to a moderate amount.
 
Drifter:

I disagree, yes, punching power does come out of your hips, but not your legs. Furthermore punching speed requires power in your tris and forearms, not your legs.

Check out this skinny guy below, skinny arms and legs and punching power to knock you out of your socks.

hardgainer (kiai)

The late, great Bruce Lee
 
absolute hardgainer said:
I still don't see why SO MANY people want size on their legs.

Having large muscular legs does not seem very practical for me, perhaps for rugby or grid iron players, but not for the average person. And certainly not if you are doing stand-up fighting.
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Just wondering what would make them impractical meaning what is the drawback to having big legs? Sorry bro not trying to flame here but that just sounds like an excuse not to try.
 
Not taken as a flame,

if you want kicking speed as a function of your legs then having bulky legs certainly does NOT help. I have practiced and competed in Muay Thai for quite a while as well as other Martial Arts. Big legs are not an advantage when it comes to kicking, as for punching power - it's generated from hip and with torso twist however the legs would only add power if you absolutely drive the punch through and push off your feet at the same time, in reality 99% of punches have to be executed much faster than to allow that.

Big legs are definitely a disadvantage when it comes to kicking high. I have never seen a bodybuilder (yet) who had large muscular legs and could execute kicks above his head height, or kick with any great speed. Power, maybe - but what good is that if it takes you 1/2 a second to land the kick?

hardgainer (speed matters, just ask Bruce)
 
hmmmmm

:o well man i can tell u what i do but i am one of those 5'6" guys. You need to look at the intensity of your leg work out. each set when u r done. remember u use your legs ALL day long to walk or run, jog hop. so they have an emmence ability to take stress. what i do is push them so hard that i cant even barely stand up after a set. if i do then it is only to wobble to he bathroom to throw up from the intensity. that is my secret. hooked on legs worked for me...:D
 
That really sucks!! I was gifted with very strong and muscular legs.

I am 22, 5'-9", 190 lbs, but I have only started training my legs 4 weeks ago and they are 24". My very first day of doing legs I was able to leg press 20 plates for 8 reps. Its kinda funny, because my legs never seem to give up . . .the more you throw at them, the harder they work for me.

The Doc
 
Im sorry but I definitly not one that has to work hard for big legs. Mine grow so fast its crazy. I've worked for a moving company for about 6 years so maybe that has helped. My legs now are close to 30in and I hardly ever work them. I bet I've worked legs less then 15 times in the past year. I'm on my fourth week of hitting legs after not doing them for about 4or5 months and I'm already back up to 405 parallel for 6reps. I'm gonna stay on them for a while and see if I can bulk up a little more.
 
absolute hardgainer said:
if you want kicking speed as a function of your legs then having bulky legs certainly does NOT help. I have practiced and competed in Muay Thai for quite a while as well as other Martial Arts. Big legs are not an advantage when it comes to kicking, as for punching power - it's generated from hip and with torso twist however the legs would only add power if you absolutely drive the punch through and push off your feet at the same time, in reality 99% of punches have to be executed much faster than to allow that.

Big legs are definitely a disadvantage when it comes to kicking high. I have never seen a bodybuilder (yet) who had large muscular legs and could execute kicks above his head height, or kick with any great speed. Power, maybe - but what good is that if it takes you 1/2 a second to land the kick?
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High kicking is all a matter of flexibility and balance having nothing to do with bulk(and yes I have experience in mixed martial arts before you ask) as for speed the larger the fast twitch muscle the faster it is ask sprinters, and to be honest there just arent that many bodybuilding martial artists.

However, Greg LLoyd formerly of the Pittsburgh Steelers had enormous legs and was also a 2nd black in one of the forms of karate cannot remember which, but anyway I have seen him do demonstrations of kicking straight up in the air an holding it. Very fast kicker also. So once again sorry bro but still just sounds like an excuse not to try
 
I had a problem with symmetry a few years ago and got the advice of a former european amateur bodybuilder. He put me on a leg program (it's laying in a box around her somewhere), but from then on my legs caught up quickly. Working legs twice a week, the program involved high rep squats with moderate weight for the first workout and the second workout doing high rep squats with light weight, hack squats and leg press. Yes, it was brutal!! I complained so much about overtraining to him, but he wanted me to put all trust in him. Eventually my legs adapted and grew! The first workout was 4-5 sets x 20 reps and the second workout was 3 sets x 20 reps on all three exercises. Try it, it will definitely shock your legs. If you want more specifics, email me and I will dig up the workout and email it to you. For me, I got awesome results.
 
First, how strong are your legs? How much can you squat and press?
I seriously think that intensity is the key. Try concentrating not on pushing the weight up, but on squeezing the fuck out of your quads (the weight actually goes upo easier and quicker = more reps). Include free weight squats, leg presses, stiff-legged deadlifts and leg curls. Squats are the most important, IMO. Set up the squat rack so that if you fail it'll catch the bar - do not be afraid to fail as well. Aim for 8 reps till failure. One very important point for me in progressing with my legs is to do more than you did last week NO MATTER WHAT. Even if it means only coming up a little further than last time before you fail and have to let the rack catch the bar. I hope that help. That's what works for me.
 
Abbaddon:

Agreed, there aren't too many bodybuilding martial artists, however there are plenty of martial artists that do weight training in conjunction with their martial arts. I am one - and I don't consider myself a bodybuilder as I am not trying to get a larger body, just a a stronger, faster and more functional one.

As for not trying... who said I or other martial artists are not trying to work on my legs? As a matter of fact I probably work too much on them, just not in order to bulk them. I don't actually work any part of my body just to put on bulk. Concerned with functionality not looking huge.

I still have not seen a bodybuilder with large, bulky legs who had the flexibility and balance to execute high kicks or do a full split. But I am very curious about this Greg Lloyd fellow, if he has enormous legs as you say (and I am not doubting you) and can kick straight up in the air I applaud him. But I would say that that is certainly not the norm. Most guys with bulky legs are lucky if they can kick chest or head high.

hardgainer (respect)
 
JayO: No shit, I didn't know that, I've never seen Flex at a show, but now you mention it I remember that Flex has a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Perhaps with A LOT of stretching it is possible for a man with very large muscular legs to maintain full flexibility.

hardgainer (pump)
 
Any Miracles success stories

Most of all your answers prove my point: you have to be born with big legs to have them. Most guys here who admitted having big legs were under 5'7", and I have never seen a guy in my gym with that height who did not have big legs. Good for you guys and enjoy but it does not help me at all... It`s like the 6'3" baskettball player trying to help the 5'5" guy imporve his jump to the net.
So any real miracle success stories here, guys that somehow found the key to gaining leg muscle mass. Thanks to CONTRACTION for his ideas on the problems.
Maybe the only way for me to get legs is to work out in 0 gravity in the ISS... That`s how lost am I at trying to find a solution.
Glenn
 
Greg Llyod was a 2nd degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Contraction, please email me that workout. I , like other 6'1 and above lifters, have a BITCH of a time adding mass to my legs. My dad is 6'4 , I'm 6'1, and my legs are just as long as his. I would love to see the this workout and give you some feedback on it after a month.

Thanks, bro.
 
Well I tried that link, it didnt work, so Ican't comment on what they say at all. As for natural legs, this isn't always true- genetics, (along with other things) will determine how fast you grow and to what ultimate size, but anyone can improve. I started out with 22 " thighs and they are now 29- even though I am cutting up right now. They only grew to 25" my first few years of training and it wsn't until I did HEAVY leg work that they grew- by heavy I, mean squats up to 500 or 600 lbs , leg presses over 1000, and pegging the stack on the leg extension machine. And none of that 4 or 5 sets of 10 crap either....warmup, do your heavy set or two, then move on, then go home and rest. My legs grew best on once or twice a week workouts..I presently do them once.
 
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if anything, i have big leg syndrome, i can't stand my huge calves, like my legs are symetrical and look good and stuff except my calves, they're just large.... :bawling:
 
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