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The Gay Content in Movies Gets Really Old

curling

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I mean that have got to have some gay or gay sub theme in every movie these days. The one I am talking about is "Lone Star State of Mind" which was really funny but sure enough one of the characters is gay but scared to ask someone out. I mean it didn't add any humor to the movie but they just had to put it in there which makes me believe that Hollywood must be getting a kickback from the gay lobby.

I mean what is the deal with all the gay stuff in movies?
 
If that is a problem for them why don't they have gay movies for gay people and straight movies for straight people. That would suit me just fine. Btw it doesn't bother you to see gay stuff in movies?
 
curling said:
If that is a problem for them why don't they have gay movies for gay people and straight movies for straight people. That would suit me just fine. Btw it doesn't bother you to see gay stuff in movies?

Yeah! Segregation is a good idea!

Separate but equal worked really well for the US in the past.

And no, but I don't recall watching a movie, and saying, "Dammit, there's that GAY stuff again!"
 
TheProject said:


Yeah! Segregation is a good idea!

Separate but equal worked really well for the US in the past.


Heck there is segregation now. What about BET, or all black or white proms what difference does it make? And just for the record you are talking about race segregation not sexual segregation. You yourself said you wonder if gay people get tired of seeing straight stuff. So why wouldn't they like to see all gay stuff in movies and not straight stuff.

And no, but I don't recall watching a movie, and saying, "Dammit, there's that GAY stuff again!"

Really? Me, my wife and my kids are constantly saying that. I think you have been totally disensitized.
 
curling said:


Heck there is segregation now. What about BET, or all black or white proms what difference does it make? And just for the record you are talking about race segregation not sexual segregation. You yourself said you wonder if gay people get tired of seeing straight stuff. So why wouldn't they like to see all gay stuff in movies and not straight stuff.



Really? Me, my wife and my kids are constantly saying that. I think you have been totally disensitized.

BET is not segregation.

Segregation in any form is not a good idea, IMO, whether it's for black/white proms, or gay/straight movies.

Oh, and my comment about gay people? That was a joke.

I suspect that your wife and kids constantly notice it because you're a bad influence on them.
 
curling said:
I mean that have got to have some gay or gay sub theme in every movie these days. The one I am talking about is "Lone Star State of Mind" which was really funny but sure enough one of the characters is gay but scared to ask someone out. I mean it didn't add any humor to the movie but they just had to put it in there which makes me believe that Hollywood must be getting a kickback from the gay lobby.

I mean what is the deal with all the gay stuff in movies?

Lots of people have homosexual impulses, so basically what you are asking is for gay people to be invisible. The gay content is only token in comparison to all the heterosexual content of movies/TV.
 
Lets come up with a new addition to the movie rating system..

G S = General Audiences - Straight
G G = General Audiences - Gay (Gay Disney movies?)
PG S = Parental Guidance - Straight
PG G = Parental Guidance - Gay
PG-13 S = Parental Guidance - Straight
PG-13 G = Parental Guidance - Gay
R S = Restricted Straight (lots of tits and guys oogling them)
R G = Restricted Gay (lots of tits and girls oogling them)

NC-17 You get what you get
 
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HansNZ said:


Lots of people have homosexual impulses, so basically what you are asking is for gay people to be invisible. The gay content is only token in comparison to all the heterosexual content of movies/TV.

Invisible closet either one will do.
 
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HansNZ said:


... what you are asking is for gay people to be invisible. .

I would prefer they not be invisible, cause they might sneak up on me and get their gay all over me.

Besides, the power of invisibility is wasted on the gay, they already can get into the showers of those they find attractive.
 
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ZenMachine said:


I would prefer they not be invisible, cause they might sneak up on me and get their gay all over me.

Besides, the power of invisibility is wasted on the gay, they already can get into the showers of those they find attractive.

LOL...Have you had some hairy old man try to feel you up in the showers at the gym or something Zen? :p
 
THeMaCHinE said:
Nope, doesn't bother me.

Would it have say 15 years ago? I guess what I am sayings is that you don't think maybe you have been desensitized(sp) over the years without even knowing it?
 
curling said:


Would it have say 15 years ago? I guess what I am sayings is that you don't think maybe you have been desensitized(sp) over the years without even knowing it?


I hate to break it to you Curling, but there is no secret conspiracy here. It is the open and intentional goal to desensitise people, because being sensitised by this sort of thing goes by the better known title of homophobia.

I am sure that people 60 years ago were far more "sensitised" to the images of black people on their movie screens than they are now.
 
curling said:


Would it have say 15 years ago? I guess what I am sayings is that you don't think maybe you have been desensitized(sp) over the years without even knowing it?

maybe he doens't care? maybe he's busy supporting his family and working and paying bills and shit. who knows. I know from my own perspecitive I'm too busy taking care of my business and my family and addressing MY problems to worry about gay people.

maybe you should do the same.

in your world God will punish those gay people for eternity. so let them be for now. life is short. eternity is long. right?
 
The Nature Boy said:


maybe he doens't care? maybe he's busy supporting his family and working and paying bills and shit. who knows. I know from my own perspecitive I'm too busy taking care of my business and my family and addressing MY problems to worry about gay people.

maybe you should do the same.

in your world God will punish those gay people for eternity. so let them be for now. life is short. eternity is long. right?

Exactly. Life is short and eternity is long. Let me put it this way lets say that I knew where there was a pot hole that you didn't know was there and we were walking along. Would you want me to warn you about the pot hole or just let you fall into it?
 
curling said:


Exactly. Life is short and eternity is long. Let me put it this way lets say that I knew where there was a pot hole that you didn't know was there and we were walking along. Would you want me to warn you about the pot hole or just let you fall into it?


please explain this analogy.
 
curling said:


Exactly. Life is short and eternity is long. Let me put it this way lets say that I knew where there was a pot hole that you didn't know was there and we were walking along. Would you want me to warn you about the pot hole or just let you fall into it?

How is falling in a pothole analagous to this situation?

15 years ago, when I was in my teens, yeah, I probably would have been more sensitized to it. I have grown, seen more of the world and know better now.
 
ZenMachine said:
I am the only one that thinks it is ironic that it is curling that posts stuff like this, when his other posts are about how the cops, landowners etc, are unaccepting of his psuedo-biker lifestyle.

Someone is always persecuting him for riding, or being too loud, or tresspassing, when all he wants to do is ride his chopper.

No not really show me where it says your can't ride a chopper in the Bible.
 
I am the only one that thinks it is ironic that it is curling that posts stuff like this, when his other posts are about how the cops, landowners etc, are unaccepting of his psuedo-biker lifestyle.

Someone is always persecuting him for riding, or being too loud, or tresspassing, when all he wants to do is ride his chopper.
 
Originally posted by curling
Exactly. Life is short and eternity is long. Let me put it this way lets say that I knew where there was a pot hole that you didn't know was there and we were walking along. Would you want me to warn you about the pot hole or just let you fall into it?

Depends... Do I like you ?
 
God needs to provide us an updated version of the Bible. As times have changed, I'm sure his priorities have too. I find it hard to believe that with everything that is going on in the world, he is concerned about gays in movies.
 
ZenMachine said:
I am the only one that thinks it is ironic that it is curling that posts stuff like this, when his other posts are about how the cops, landowners etc, are unaccepting of his psuedo-biker lifestyle.

Someone is always persecuting him for riding, or being too loud, or tresspassing, when all he wants to do is ride his chopper.

that's why there's a growing consensous that curling is not real.
 
Y_Lifter said:


Depends... Do I like you ?

Does it really matter. I mean would you let someone that you didn't really like fall into such a hole. For some reason I don't think your would. btw your comment was funny and I took it that way.
 
curling said:


No not really show me where it says your can't ride a chopper in the Bible.

I think it says something about trespassing though.

"Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"

Isn't it all in the interpretation.
 
curling said:
I mean that have got to have some gay or gay sub theme in every movie these days. The one I am talking about is "Lone Star State of Mind" which was really funny but sure enough one of the characters is gay but scared to ask someone out. I mean it didn't add any humor to the movie but they just had to put it in there which makes me believe that Hollywood must be getting a kickback from the gay lobby.

I mean what is the deal with all the gay stuff in movies?


I'm a couple steps past you. I have decided that Hollywood is about 1/2 gay. Look at who they choose to be stars. The masters of the Stairclimbers, the butt kings and queens. We used to have satuesque starletts.
 
With all the posting about gays curling does, I'd bet his 401k that he's tasted a man's ass a time or two
 
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Testosterone boy said:



I'm a couple steps past you. I have decided that Hollywood is about 1/2 gay. Look at who they choose to be stars. The masters of the Stairclimbers, the butt kings and queens. We used to have satuesque starletts.



Ever wonder why AAP goes to the movies all the damned time?
 
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HansNZ said:


LOL...Have you had some hairy old man try to feel you up in the showers at the gym or something Zen? :p

He likes sharing these personal fantasies....
 
curling said:


No not really show me where it says your can't ride a chopper in the Bible.

That's a genius comeback. As if motorcycles deserve a mention in the Holy Book.

Mercedes-Benz on the other hand...
 
Curling just come out already...there are plenty of gay bros in Texas Like, Flexed1, Runner and Supersizeme that will help you with this trying time.
 
WODIN said:
Curling just come out already...there are plenty of gay bros in Texas Like, Flexed1, Runner and Supersizeme that will help you with this trying time.




Nope....SSMe is a het broly if ever there was one. He has passed all of the het tests with flying colors. But then again.....AAP has passed a few.
 
Lots of people have homosexual impulses, so basically what you are asking is for gay people to be invisible. The gay content is only token in comparison to all the heterosexual content of movies/TV.

token cause gays are a vast minority.

but if you listen to hans, and his supporters here on EF, it is heteros that are the minority. according to him, we have inflated ourselves to 6billion by tamping each oher fudge.

lets forget that you dont see gayness in the animal world. i dont ever recall seeing a couple gay ants fucking each others thorax, or my 2 male dogs lickin each others balls.
 
curling said:
I mean that have got to have some gay or gay sub theme in every movie these days. I mean it didn't add any humor to the movie but they just had to put it in there which makes me believe that Hollywood must be getting a kickback from the gay lobby.

I mean what is the deal with all the gay stuff in movies?

What is with all of these conspiracy theories about Gays?
 
Sinistar said:
lets forget that you dont see gayness in the animal world. i dont ever recall seeing a couple gay ants fucking each others thorax, or my 2 male dogs lickin each others balls.

This is completely false, and it is well known to be false. There are plenty of studies on animal sexuality you could look up on the internet if you were willing to challenge your own prejudices. For Goodness sake, whole species like the Manatee are primarily homosexual. Do a search!

It is sad for you that your arguments are only based upon asserting things that aren't true. You are behaving somewhat like a christian. "It is so because it is so!"
 
Sinistar said:


token cause gays are a vast minority.

but if you listen to hans, and his supporters here on EF, it is heteros that are the minority. according to him, we have inflated ourselves to 6billion by tamping each oher fudge.

lets forget that you dont see gayness in the animal world. i dont ever recall seeing a couple gay ants fucking each others thorax, or my 2 male dogs lickin each others balls.

Here, I did a serach for you. There were 00000s of studies on this issue since it is well studied and documented. It only took me a couple of seconds to find them:

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
 
curling said:
I mean that have got to have some gay or gay sub theme in every movie these days. The one I am talking about is "Lone Star State of Mind" which was really funny but sure enough one of the characters is gay but scared to ask someone out. I mean it didn't add any humor to the movie but they just had to put it in there which makes me believe that Hollywood must be getting a kickback from the gay lobby.

I mean what is the deal with all the gay stuff in movies?
I agree it sucks, Its one thing to accept gay rights but why to they have to cram all this gay bullshit down our throats?
 
I agree it sucks, Its one thing to accept gay rights but why to they have to cram all this gay bullshit down our throats?

gay rights? fine wih me. cramming anything down my throat? not ok with me.
 
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HANSEL said:

I agree it sucks, Its one thing to accept gay rights but why to they have to cram all this gay bullshit down our throats?

gee, and its not like heterosexuality isn't portrayed everywhere we look!:rolleyes:
 
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HansNZ said:


gee, and its not like heterosexuality isn't portrayed everywhere we look!:rolleyes:
Well thats the Majority of the World Hanz, hence thats what majority of the Worlds media should play too. Heteros. You are a small portion of the human race and shouldnt expect to have equal airtime.

Too much political correctness
 
So all of the Heterosexual population should see tons of gay shit everywhere to appease the few that are homo?
 
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HANSEL said:

Well thats the Majority of the World Hanz, hence thats what majority of the Worlds media should play too. Heteros. You are a small portion of the human race and shouldnt expect to have equal airtime.

Too much political correctness

There is less homosexuality portrayed in the media than there is homosexual behaviour in the real world.
 
This thread is retarded beyond belief (RBB). Tons of shit is depicted in movies. If anything, we should be talking about how patronizing and condescending a lot of movies are regarding gays. Gays are definitely a significant portion of the male population.
 
curling, in my opinion, the whole Christianity concept gets pretty old as well. However, it's what a large portion of people in America believes in and so I have to just live with it. There seems to be so very little gay content in movies that the small amount seems ridiculous to even be bitching about. It's amazing to me how some people bitch about ANYTHING that talks about something that they're not comfortable with. I mean COME ON - you're too obsessed with homosexuality. If you'll go to the adult section and read my post about those that are uncomfortable with gay people, I think that you'll realize what's up with "your type". And yes, I'm being stereotypical.
 
On another note, a lot of girls in all-girls schools are bi. And all of them are easy pickin' because of their curiosity of the cock.
 
it's pretty simple really. some people don't like violent movies, so they don't watch them. some people dont like gays in movies, don't watch them. nobody is forcing anything down anyones throat, because nobody is being forced into watching movies or TV.

personally I think the very femme gays like in will and grace are fucking annoying. SO I DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!! sheesh.
 
The Nature Boy said:
it's pretty simple really. some people don't like violent movies, so they don't watch them. some people dont like gays in movies, don't watch them. nobody is forcing anything down anyones throat, because nobody is being forced into watching movies or TV.

personally I think the very femme gays like in will and grace are fucking annoying. SO I DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!! sheesh.

They are forcing Gay issues and gay characters into shows that used to be good and didnt pander to that. So because of this PC bs we have to abandon good shows?
 
The Nature Boy said:
personally I think the very femme gays like in will and grace are fucking annoying. SO I DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!! sheesh.

Here, here! I get asked if I watch W&G or Queer as Folk. Although Karen on W&G is a riot, I don't watch because Jack drives me insane with his gayness. The same with QAF. Just because I am a homo doesn't mean that I get into watching others "act it out".
 
HANSEL said:


They are forcing Gay issues and gay characters into shows that used to be good and didnt pander to that. So because of this PC bs we have to abandon good shows?

what shows are you talking about?
 
The Nature Boy said:


what shows are you talking about?



there is that damn "the nature boy show"...

its about the struggle of a semi-retarded marfan's
sufferer, with acute conjunctivitis and chronic halitosis,
for acceptance, inspite of society's seeming indifference for his
unholy fascination with his goldfish, Stu's, homosexually
provocative swimming mannerisms and enticing gill breathing...

its on lifetime or pbs i think...



:good:
 
bwood said:




there is that damn "the nature boy show"...

its about the struggle of a semi-retarded marfan's
sufferer, with acute conjunctivitis and chronic halitosis,
for acceptance, inspite of society's seeming indifference for his
unholy fascination with his goldfish, Stu's, homosexually
provocative swimming mannerisms and enticing gill breathing...

its on lifetime or pbs i think...



:good:

I think you're making this whole thing up
 
damn right.

if I had a show it would have hot chicks and people falling down and monkeys and people with whiplash neck braces and at least one black guy because black guys are usually funnier (dave chappelle). it would be awesome.
 
The Nature Boy said:
damn right.

if I had a show it would have hot chicks and people falling down and monkeys and people with whiplash neck braces and at least one black guy because black guys are usually funnier (dave chappelle). it would be awesome.

I think that's the new show on HBO...
 
hans

i do not doubt the reality of homosexuality. i dont doubt you were born this way, as i dont doubt that some ppl get fucked around and really dont know what they want. i dont doubt the depth of love in a gay relationship. i have said it before, i cant tell you who to love.

that report doesnt do alot for your case though. as it definalty has a left wing slant, which im sure youll agree. i read through most of it, and it seemed to take a hostile veiw of christians, conservatives and basically anyone who didnt think the same way as the poster of this article. it struck me as a paraell but opposite jerry falwell, svcreaming about learned gay behavior and how fags toppled the WTC.

it also takes several very plausible alternatives, like a deer mounting another male cause he didnt check for a dick, and says they are bullshit. its about here that i think this article is less about debunking societal beleifs, and bashing those with a opinion just as relevent as yours.

it also gets murky on the subject of actual gay behavior in animals. i see alot of what was inferred could be animal buddies, and not lovers.

an example: if you see 2 male dogs running down an alley, i dont think they are gay. maybe they were raised together. maybe they have had to lean on each other. that article seems to me to state that something like i just described is homosexual behavior. i call bullshit on this.

i could go on, but ill let you smack the ball back first.

in closing, if your happy and your gay clap your hands. your happiness should come first, above fighting for a movement that isnt going to change shit. gay rights dont mean a fucking thing, ill tell you what does: keeping dictators out of power. fighting for the shared rigts of every man. that means somthing. with so much nasty, uncalled for, pointless heatbreaking shit going on in the world, holding protest where most guys dress up like burlesque stars of the past, basically wih the sole intent to digust and unnerve those that dont feel the same way, is pointless. and a waste of good energy. i cant help but think of the KKK everytime i see one of tose parades where guys are dressed up like catholic schoolgirls. i dont see thse things as a statement of freedom, but of contempt and hate.
 
HANSEL said:
They are forcing Gay issues and gay characters into shows that used to be good and didnt pander to that. So because of this PC bs we have to abandon good shows?
First, who is "they"? Second, the entertainment industry has always had a large segment of homosexuals within it's population, so this should really be no surprise. The real surprise is that it took so long. Third, when it's your show, you can write it however you want. When it's your network, you can program it however you want. Ain't nobody forcing nobody, here.
 
Rockafella Skank said:

First, who is "they"? Second, the entertainment industry has always had a large segment of homosexuals within it's population, so this should really be no surprise. The real surprise is that it took so long. Third, when it's your show, you can write it however you want. When it's your network, you can program it however you want. Ain't nobody forcing nobody, here.
First, they are the people that make the decisions to try to pander to the overly sensitve public. movie studios, investors, jew run media etc (J/K) . They add a black guy, an asian guy etc to every show so no one can call them racists.

Second, who gives a shit, writers and directors cant make a movie the way they want, the groups of investors and movie studio decide to chop up their film, throw a gay guy or two in there and try to make a few extra bucks at the expense of Wholesaome Family Values.

Third, people do write them the way they want only to have fuckin focus groups and shit fuck up their original creative idea.



Nature Boy, Ill have examples for you. Waiting on the other to get home, we were talking about this the other day.......
 
in some ways i think TVs have gone soft like Hansel says, although not all shows yet.

But, imo movies are stayin largely independent and not being overun by political correctness...

On another note I thought the 'gayness' on Boondock Saints was pretty damn funny.
 
Frackal said:
With all the posting about gays curling does, I'd bet his 401k that he's tasted a man's ass a time or two

This is a homosexual ploy too. If you ever condemn homosexuality they turn it around on you and say you must have latent homosexual tendencies this is such bullshit. I am not saying you came up with this frackal you are just parroting what you have been taught by the homos.

I will show you just how assinine this idea is. Lets say you have someone that hates heroin usage and lobbys against it does that person have latent heroin tendencies. An extreme example what about the KKK do you think they a secret desire to be black?

All that type thinking came from the gay lobby to try to make homophobes seem like the people with the mental problem when just 20 years ago homosexuality was considered a pervesian that needed to be treated. Our world has gone crazy.

And just to verify no I am not gay. I do not find men attractive. Women on the other hand are awesome. They are soft, pretty, smell good and more to offer than men do. For the life me I can't see how any guy can find a guy more attractive than a woman. I actually feel sorry for them thinking that way they are missing out not digging the ladies. To be honest if I was a girl I would probably be a lesbian.
 
The Nature Boy said:
I'm still waiting to hear about these awesome shows that went gay on Hansel.

Everybody loves Raymond had an episode where he had the hots
for a pkg delivery guy... Then Kissed his wife to prove his Non Gayity

I've seen tons of Crocodile hunter episodes where Steve rolls
around on the ground with MALEs...
 
curling said:


This is a homosexual ploy too. If you ever condemn homosexuality they turn it around on you and say you must have latent homosexual tendencies this is such bullshit. I am not saying you came up with this frackal you are just parroting what you have been taught by the homos.

I will show you just how assinine this idea is. Lets say you have someone that hates heroin usage and lobbys against it does that person have latent heroin tendencies. An extreme example what about the KKK do you think they a secret desire to be black?

All that type thinking came from the gay lobby to try to make homophobes seem like the people with the mental problem when just 20 years ago homosexuality was considered a pervesian that needed to be treated. Our world has gone crazy.

And just to verify no I am not gay. I do not find men attractive. Women on the other hand are awesome. They are soft, pretty, smell good and more to offer than men do. For the life me I can't see how any guy can find a guy more attractive than a woman. I actually feel sorry for them thinking that way they are missing out not digging the ladies. To be honest if I was a girl I would probably be a lesbian.

You know I put alot of time and thought in to this post and noone even bothered to agree or disagree how disapoointed is that?
 
I find it interesting that you only elected to defend the fact that you aren't gay. Which is fine, I don't care one way or the other.

You seem to think it is unacceptable for the "gay community" to push their agenda on you, but somehow it is acceptable for you to push your agenda on them. For the love of God Curling, if you don't like the movie, or TV show stop watching. It is that simple. Just like if I don't like your chopper riding ass on my property, I ask you to leave.

I know you have some biblical basis for your belief that homosexuality is wrong, but the bible has stated a number of different things are wrong, I am sure the bible frowns upon people being self absorbed, motorcycle riding assholes who think they know what is best of the whole of society.
 
ZenMachine said:
I find it interesting that you only elected to defend the fact that you aren't gay. Which is fine, I don't care one way or the other.


The reason I posted that is because the whole homophobe label pisses me off. Like homophobes are the ones with the problem and not vice a versa. What would you like me to address I would be more than happy to comply.

You seem to think it is unacceptable for the "gay community" to push their agenda on you, but somehow it is acceptable for you to push your agenda on them.

For several reasons. If they find Christ then they can hope for everlasting life and peace while they are here. What is homosexuality going to do for me since I don't find guys attractive.

For the love of God Curling, if you don't like the movie, or TV show stop watching. It is that simple.
Why do I have to stop watching movies(the only thing I watch on TV is American Chopper) Why can't they keep their sexuality where it should be kept in the closet.

Just like if I don't like your chopper riding ass on my property, I ask you to leave.

I just can't believe you don't like choppers. You must have never ridden one yet.

I know you have some biblical basis for your belief that homosexuality is wrong, but the bible has stated a number of different things are wrong, I am sure the bible frowns upon people being self absorbed, motorcycle riding assholes who think they know what is best of the whole of society.

How come you think I am an asshole?
 
ZenMachine said:


I think some could argue that they can't believe you don't like the cock, you must have never ridden one yet.

someone can like anal stimulation and still have no sexual attraction to doods.
 
curling said:




I just can't believe you don't like choppers. You must have never ridden one yet.



I think some could argue that they can't believe you don't like the cock, you must have never ridden one yet.
 
My husband refuses to watch "Six feet under" for this very reason. He thinks they are promoting the gay life style and trying to make it seem like the norm.
 
ZenMachine said:


I think some could argue that they can't believe you don't like the cock, you must have never ridden one yet.

eeeewwwwhhhh. That is gross man. I mean I ain't no chick I ride I don't get ridden. Here I was trying to open your life off to a good experience and they you say something disgusting, nasty and perveted back to me. That is some negative karma for you bro.
 
curling said:


For several reasons. If they find Christ then they can hope for everlasting life and peace while they are here. What is homosexuality going to do for me since I don't find guys attractive.

Why do I have to stop watching movies(the only thing I watch on TV is American Chopper) Why can't they keep their sexuality where it should be kept in the closet.

I just can't believe you don't like choppers. You must have never ridden one yet.

How come you think I am an asshole?

The asshole thing was over the line, I don't know you well enough to think you are an asshole, so I apologize.

All of the questions you pose can easily be turned around the other way as well. Why do people have to keep their sexuality in the closet? You don't.

Your opinion on the subject is influenced by your belief that biblically their is something wrong with it. Granted it has been a few years since I have read the bible, but I am pretty sure it is against you deciding who is or isn't worthy of salvation. "love your enemy", "judge not lest ye be judged" and all of that. Don't forget that it wasn't too long ago that people were using the bible to justify why one race was superior to the other.

I am not gay and sometimes I see things that bother me too, but I chose not to watch, whether it be in a movie or outside on the street. But just because I don't like something doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

You live in a small world Curling, one that apparently needs to function on your set of rules and values (no gays in the movies, loud tailpipes, and driving where you want). It just doesn't work that way.
 
ZenMachine said:


The asshole thing was over the line, I don't know you well enough to think you are an asshole, so I apologize.

All of the questions you pose can easily be turned around the other way as well. Why do people have to keep their sexuality in the closet? You don't.

Your opinion on the subject is influenced by your belief that biblically their is something wrong with it. Granted it has been a few years since I have read the bible, but I am pretty sure it is against you deciding who is or isn't worthy of salvation. "love your enemy", "judge not lest ye be judged" and all of that. Don't forget that it wasn't too long ago that people were using the bible to justify why one race was superior to the other.

I am not gay and sometimes I see things that bother me too, but I chose not to watch, whether it be in a movie or outside on the street. But just because I don't like something doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

You live in a small world Curling, one that apparently needs to function on your set of rules and values (no gays in the movies, loud tailpipes, and driving where you want). It just doesn't work that way.


good post. but it'll go in one ear and out the other. trust me.
 
Scarlett33 said:
My husband refuses to watch "Six feet under" for this very reason. He thinks they are promoting the gay life style and trying to make it seem like the norm.
Thank You!

I forgot to get a list of shows from the other last night I apologize NatureBoy, I dont really watch tele but have noticed this trend and will provide you a significant list...bear with me.
 
The Nature Boy said:
six feet under is a great fucking show, with or without the homosexuality.

I agree. To be honest, the gay content bothered me in the beginning, but now I view the gay characters as just characters, with their own relationship issues.
 
ZenMachine said:


I agree. To be honest, the gay content bothered me in the beginning, but now I view the gay characters as just characters, with their own relationship issues.

I agree. it's a quirky show, and that adds to the quirkyness. I do flinch when they show kissing..... but that's not often.

if you want to watch bland television, then maybe disney is the way to go. but life is full of crazy shit, and to an extent art imitates life.
 
Curling, I've said it before, I'll say it again.
The problem you're having is you read a Bible translated in the 1700's by monks with limited understanding of Greek and Aramaic. We've learned a lot more in the past 30 years (with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls) about how to translate Greek. Many of the "gay bashing" passages in the Bible actually refered to 1.male prostitution, 2. rape of the vanquished by the victor, and 3.cultic ritual sex practices.
Get a recent copy of the New Oxford University translation of the Bible, fourth edition.
It's much more gay neutral. There are lots of learned Christian scholars that argue the Bible is not anywhere near as gay bashing as you think.
Think of it, the 10 commandments mentions "do not lie" and "do not covet your neighbors posessions" and "honor your parents" but doesn't say a thing about homosexuality. Even if it is a sin (just for arguments sake), JUST HOW IMPORTANT COULD IT BE? It certainly didn't make the top ten.
 
ZenMachine said:


The asshole thing was over the line, I don't know you well enough to think you are an asshole, so I apologize.


Well I appreciate that.

All of the questions you pose can easily be turned around the other way as well. Why do people have to keep their sexuality in the closet? You don't.

Well not in the closet but I do keep it in the bedroom. I don't talk about doing my wife with other people or flaunt hetrosexuality in parades either.

Your opinion on the subject is influenced by your belief that biblically their is something wrong with it. Granted it has been a few years since I have read the bible, but I am pretty sure it is against you deciding who is or isn't worthy of salvation. "love your enemy", "judge not lest ye be judged" and all of that.[/quote]

Where did I say they were not worthy of salvation? Show me and I will eat those words. bwt We are all not worthy of salvation it is only by the Grace of God that one can be saved. Heck we are all sinners the difference is I admit when I sin and homosexuals that act on their urges don't think it is wrong. See the difference?


I am not gay

I am very glad to here that.

and sometimes I see things that bother me too, but I chose not to watch, whether it be in a movie or outside on the street. But just because I don't like something doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

But you are entitled to your opinion on what you think is right or wrong and I am just giving my opinion. But if you keep your mouth shut on stuff like that instead of voiceing it then you are doing an injustice to yourself. There is also a verse in the Bible that warns countries against condoning homosexuality and premiscuous living.

You live in a small world Curling, one that apparently needs to function on your set of rules and values (no gays in the movies, loud tailpipes, and driving where you want). It just doesn't work that way.

We all have our own set of values and I live by mine just as I am sure you live by yours. I am sorry if my loud tailpipes offend you but they help cars notice me which is alot more offensive when they hit ya then listening to loud pipes. There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.
 
curling said:


We all have our own set of values and I live by mine just as I am sure you live by yours. I am sorry if my loud tailpipes offend you but they help cars notice me which is alot more offensive when they hit ya then listening to loud pipes. There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.

I will try to address what is the crux of the discussion. We do all have our own set of values, the problem is curling, you judge other peoples lives by your set of values. You make the assumption that your value set is higher or superior to others. It isn't, it is just different.

You are condemning people for living their life a certain way, when you rebel at someone doing the samething to you.
 
Ok I am up for it

curling said:


This is a homosexual ploy too. If you ever condemn homosexuality they turn it around on you and say you must have latent homosexual tendencies this is such bullshit. I am not saying you came up with this frackal you are just parroting what you have been taught by the homos.

You're right, I taught him that myself.

I will show you just how assinine this idea is. Lets say you have someone that hates heroin usage and lobbys against it does that person have latent heroin tendencies. An extreme example what about the KKK do you think they a secret desire to be black?

Right again, I am a latent E addict.

All that type thinking came from the gay lobby to try to make homophobes seem like the people with the mental problem when just 20 years ago homosexuality was considered a pervesian that needed to be treated. Our world has gone crazy.

I do not consider myself a pervert. I am a perfectly normal guy with natural urges to fuck everything that bends over. Since you are a guy, you shouldn't be any different, you horn dog.

And just to verify no I am not gay. I do not find men attractive. Women on the other hand are awesome. They are soft, pretty, smell good and more to offer than men do. For the life me I can't see how any guy can find a guy more attractive than a woman. I actually feel sorry for them thinking that way they are missing out not digging the ladies. To be honest if I was a girl I would probably be a lesbian.

Lesbians the world over are rejoicing.
 
Originally posted by

You are condemning people for living their life a certain way, when you rebel at someone doing the samething to you. [/B]


I don't understand what you mean here?
 
curling said:


I don't understand what you mean here?

Sorry I will clarify. You condemn people for living their life a certain way.

But when someone wants to put their non motorcycle riding, noise making, randomly stopping on the the roadway lifestyle on you, it is worthy of a new post bitching about it.
 
curling said:
There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.

gee curling, and why do you think that you wouldn't watch gay movies? Are you afraid that the Almighty Curling might be reduced to, oh, someone that's actually somewhat intelligent on homosexuality? What's so "scary" about watching these movies curling? You have nothing to fear but fear itself curling. Are you afraid of stepping out of your hetero comfort zone and perhaps actually connecting with a homo's feelings? What is it curling? What drives this need to STAY AWAY? What has happened in your past that causes this behaviour? Surely you don't believe that god has somehow created you better than a homosexual? Surely you don't believe that you're somehow connected to a higher being MORE SO than the average Joe? So tell us, curling, what part of the Bible allows you to disconnect yourself from others? Enquiring minds want to know curling. Hurry . . . the mere mortals are waiting . . .
 
Why don't I enjoy watching it? Because to me it is perverted. You can not reproduce so therefor we were created to have sex with the same partner. I personally find it repulsive. What do you find perverted if anything. Would watching man rape entaining hopefully not well any homo act is disgusting to me. So why would I want to watch it? Why waste my time on something I don't like. You make no sense whatsoever.

And no I am not better than the homo. I sin just like everyone else. But at least I can admit that what I do wrong is a sin most homos won't.
 
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