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The Arnold Schwarzenegger cycle

bigmouth2006 said:
i have heard that was his favorite compounds but you know he only took a couple of d-bol a day.LOL
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Yeah, a couple bottles!! LOL!
 
i read in some bodybuilding book that arnold popped d-bols like breath mints when he was competing...i dont know if its true or not?...he sure looked like he took alot more then just that cycle,but who knows he was a genetic freak!
 
Im usually a little skeptical when I see pro's cycles on forums, but this actually looks reasonable. Ive heard the stories of pro's eating dbol like tic tacs in those day. If thats Arnolds cycle, Its very simple and I could very much see it.
 
How the hell does he and the other oldtimers still have a friggen liver left???
My God that's ALOT of D-Ball without any kind of break!

"SuperStar Billy Graham" knows what I'm talking about!
 
What does that mean, they didn't have test back in the day? Wasn't that the first steroid ever made? Synthesized testosterone?

Would have loved to have seen his liver enzyme tests? Only used 200mg of Deca for a few weeks??? Things like this are bad. Now some newbie will read this and take dbol for their whole life and wonder why their skin is turning yellow (it doesn't even talk about the toxicity of it).
 
Highly doubt that. It is all speculation, unless it comes from the horse's mouth. And then it is probally false.
 
the funny part is they say if you do their new age cycle you to can have a build like arnold...lmao!...i think genetics has a big part in that guys...lol
 
mlong23 said:
What does that mean, they didn't have test back in the day? Wasn't that the first steroid ever made? Synthesized testosterone?

Would have loved to have seen his liver enzyme tests? Only used 200mg of Deca for a few weeks??? Things like this are bad. Now some newbie will read this and take dbol for their whole life and wonder why their skin is turning yellow (it doesn't even talk about the toxicity of it).
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They had test but didn't usually use it. A lot of guys went on deca + dbol cycles, or primo + dbol. All the things we know now weren't available back then.
 
assuming that is correct to a certain degree it really makes me wonder how Arnold hasnt had any liver problems (that ive heard of anyways). Considering for the better part of 15 years thats probably what his AAS regime was like for at least 6 months out of the year....
 
holy fuck..., y would u run deca at 200mg for a short time? i dont think that shits true it says they didnt use any PCT or n e thing and he would b bloated 2 the fullest off of that dbol dose
 
Roc86 said:
assuming that is correct to a certain degree it really makes me wonder how Arnold hasnt had any liver problems (that ive heard of anyways). Considering for the better part of 15 years thats probably what his AAS regime was like for at least 6 months out of the year....
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I dont think juice is as hard on the liver as everyone would have you believe. Granted, Im sure it may have some small negative effects, but I think it all comes down to your over all health at the end of the day. I mean hell, I took drol for quite a while and it didnt hurt my liver one bit.
 
I know an old strongman pro and he definitely claims few people went above 2gs a week... now some are at 2gs a day... i guess people keep pushing the envelope and seeing what their bodies can handle...
 
Only reason I'm not buying it is cause of Water retention...... Arnold was pretty much always dry, but with that cycle he'd be BLOWN UP son..... Unless he used diuretics to keep bloat down??? Test was very big in Europe back in the 70's actually, as was Deca..... Arnold is Austrian, I'd think he'd use some Test here and there at least........ I guess you never know....

rizz
 
I'm just wondering if anyone has ever used Primobolan at 800mg/wk... I'm going to try it for the first time with my next cycle but was only planning on running 400mg/wk.

As far as that being Arnold's cycle, I severely doubt it. Arnold was known to never give a straight answer when asked a question.

I'd love to hear Ronnie Coleman's cycle tho..

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
I'm just wondering if anyone has ever used Primobolan at 800mg/wk... I'm going to try it for the first time with my next cycle but was only planning on running 400mg/wk.

As far as that being Arnold's cycle, I severely doubt it. Arnold was known to never give a straight answer when asked a question.

I'd love to hear Ronnie Coleman's cycle tho..

T-Matt
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Shit, Ronnies cycle would take up this whole forum! :worried: :worried:













TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
 
T-Matt said:
I'm just wondering if anyone has ever used Primobolan at 800mg/wk... I'm going to try it for the first time with my next cycle but was only planning on running 400mg/wk.
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One of the guys who openly posted about selling here used Primo at 1g/week for an EF contest against another guy on the board. He got pretty cut up, but lost the contest. Then everyone wanted to buy primo from him, so he took all their money and fucked them.

That contest resulted in a bunch of guys here running it at higher doses.

I think drrman runs pretty high doses of primo, maybe he'll chime in here.
 
dale_gribble said:
I dont think juice is as hard on the liver as everyone would have you believe. Granted, Im sure it may have some small negative effects, but I think it all comes down to your over all health at the end of the day. I mean hell, I took drol for quite a while and it didnt hurt my liver one bit.
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My blood tests showed all normal liver values but cholesterol was all abnormal, too little good chol and too much bad chol, and I was not taking a high dose of AAS.
 
DAMN.. That's fucked up!!

A couple guys over at T-Nation convinced me to try Primo.. Never tried it before because it was so damn expensive.. Now that I am able to obtain it for a modest price, shit, let's fill up a syringe and go to town baby.. Besides 50mL for under 200 bucks ain't bad.. :) I'll give anything a try once..

But yeah Drrman.. tell me more..

T-Matt


stuck said:
One of the guys who openly posted about selling here used Primo at 1g/week for an EF contest against another guy on the board. He got pretty cut up, but lost the contest. Then everyone wanted to buy primo from him, so he took all their money and fucked them.

That contest resulted in a bunch of guys here running it at higher doses.

I think drrman runs pretty high doses of primo, maybe he'll chime in here.
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1 do u think everything was more potent or overdosed then?
2 were there UG labs or Vet grade, or was everything Human Grade?
3 Has the newer generation of users looking for the "cheapest fix" caused the expansion of UG labs & Vet grade? just a few ive been pondering
 
On top of the dbol, I remember hearing(could just be here say) that he also liked to have a couple beers after a workout... if all is true he musta shit his liver out and ate it for the protien..
 
MR X great site set up!!!

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looking good

personally came to the conclusion one can replicate the same cycle by doing this:

300 mgs Test a week
300 mgs Deca
300 mgs Primo

no need for any strong Ais on this one
 
According to Rick Wayne Arnold started popping d-bol in his early teens. Rick said he bought his first bottle from a 17 year old Arnold in Europe. Arnold told him he had been on a few years already at that point.
 
Prizz said:
Only reason I'm not buying it is cause of Water retention...... Arnold was pretty much always dry, but with that cycle he'd be BLOWN UP son..... Unless he used diuretics to keep bloat down??? Test was very big in Europe back in the 70's actually, as was Deca..... Arnold is Austrian, I'd think he'd use some Test here and there at least........ I guess you never know....

rizz
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I was under the impression that Arnold prefered Dbol + Primo. That would account for him being somewhat dry for most of the year. Of course limiting the amount of sodium he consumed as well; amongst other things.
 
paridhm said:
I was under the impression that Arnold prefered Dbol + Primo. That would account for him being somewhat dry for most of the year. Of course limiting the amount of sodium he consumed as well; amongst other things.
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i can get more strength and mass off of dbol than test so i guess if he ran DBOL for like 10 weeks straight along with primo he could gain alot. I don't know if DBOL is as toxic as everyone makes it out to be. Some people are more tolerant to certain things than others. Does anyone know any specific cases where they knew someone who got Jaundice or cancer from excessive DBOL?
 
OMEGA said:
MR X great site set up!!!

:rate:

looking good

personally came to the conclusion one can replicate the same cycle by doing this:

300 mgs Test a week
300 mgs Deca
300 mgs Primo

no need for any strong Ais on this one
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I have Ronnie Coleman's and Dorians cycles coming soon :chomp:
 
i got my pro card early 2000s

-never done pct post my first cycle (first cycle i did 20 days clomid or something like that and it didnt do shit) since then never done pct again and never needed it

-always kept atleast 75% of the gains and only lost water weight post cycles

-with time increased the cycle lengths and many times went through months of being "ON"

-never needed anti estrogen. was waste of time and only hindered important water weight gains (mentally important)

-could use and have used low doses (500mgs) and gained a lot of pounds due to serious correct training and lots of calories in diet

-also used very high doses and found it to be better as long as your lean muscle mass is high enough for those high doses to make a difference

-never had major problem of sex drive while using nandrolone

-never had problem with sex drive no matter what gear ive taken. it ALL in the head or you simply got an ugly chic:)

-used proviron many times and found it to be efficient since it "helps" and improves the functions of test while giving you "androgenic hardness" with no side effects but extra sex drive

-found gh to be beneficial and a done it many times post cycle, offseason and onseason with clen

-always keep it simple. the more simple you keep it the bigger you will become and the bigger your muscles will get. correct training + lots of calories + legit basic gear = optimal growth
 
thta type of cycle sounds about right IMO; obviously genetics is a very important factor; back in those days, bad genetics guys knew on the very first day that they were wasting their time; is not like today; you see 500 hundred morons at the gym, all bench pressing 1 ton, fat, and all wanna look like arnold. Do yall think arnold was eating 4000, 5000 6000 cals a day? no way!! that is shit from today!. On top of this, our nutrition is infected with hormones, chemicals, preservants, they lack of natural minerals, intoxicated with sodium so our chance today to have liver problems or blood pressure problems is way higher than the golden years.
 
BBkingpin said:
My blood tests showed all normal liver values but cholesterol was all abnormal, too little good chol and too much bad chol, and I was not taking a high dose of AAS.
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Let's be real for a second.

Can we all admit that the Liver damage from orals is a "little" overstated?

It's NOT a good idea, but I know guys who have take 5-6 months of Winny/Dbol, and thier liver values were/and still are "fine".

I'm not saying you're not asking for "some" problems, but saying that taking DBol (etc) for more than 6 weeks is "dangerous" is simply not true.
 
this could have been from arnie-boy leading his competitors down the wrong path back in the day. I remember a story about him saying huge quantities of salt was his secret to muscle mass. Within a week every schmo at Gold's gym was eating salt by the handful lol.
 
nuthinbutagoodtym said:
Let's be real for a second.

Can we all admit that the Liver damage from orals is a "little" overstated?

It's NOT a good idea, but I know guys who have take 5-6 months of Winny/Dbol, and thier liver values were/and still are "fine".

I'm not saying you're not asking for "some" problems, but saying that taking DBol (etc) for more than 6 weeks is "dangerous" is simply not true.
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I'm with you on this bro...

I'm not going to say it's safe to run orals that long, but lots of sides are inflated by media. Too much BS and nonsense floating around :coffee:
 
Mr.X said:
They had test but didn't usually use it. A lot of guys went on deca + dbol cycles, or primo + dbol. All the things we know now weren't available back then.
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I saw deca injectable, dbol blue pills and anavar pills.
Dosages were low. No anti-e's and no pct.
Lot of sources were hospital workers.

Interesting point about injected test. I never saw it.
 
boston789 said:
Yeah but I would bet anything that Arnold got laid alot more than Ronnie. And Arnold looked alot better....
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Different times demand different looks...can't say anything about ronnie, he's superhuman! ;)
 
daveyboy2345 said:
i want info on Zane's steroid usage. I know he preferred primo to d-bol, i think i read that in an article on www.alanpalmieri.com under articles, I think, not too sure now.
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Zane did a lot of low carb dieting. IMO, his cycles were heavy primo based.
 
I would guess the reason Arnold was able to get away with high dose d-bol without bloat would be the fact that those guys ate a really low carbohydrate diet pretty much all year long. When I go into ketosis, I get pretty damn dry myself.
 
Also remember genetics bro...if there is one thing Arnold had, it was genetics.
 
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