Test Prop & Cyp, T-BOL Cycle, 2nd Pin due today.

[Timberwolf89]

Good afternoon good people in Iron,

I did my first pin of Test Cyp (250mg) and Prop (100mg) on Friday and need to do my second pin before the end of today. Inbetween then I started TBOL @ 40mg yesterday (Sunday) as my brother was kind enough to part with a bottle.

Stats:
Age: 25
Length: 1.78m
Weight: 81kg
Bodyfat: 13-15%.
Years training: 9

Cycle plan:
Test Prop 1-4 @ 100mg EOD (Mo/Tue/Fri)
Test Cyp 1-12 @ 250mg Mon and Fri

+ now the addition of TBOL 1-4/1-6 @ 40mg ED split in two.

HcG from week 6, Nolva and Clomid for PCT, Letro on hand for gyno but also Aromasin which a friend gave me a while back, which can be used in this cycle.

Questions:

1)The PiP is almost unbearable. It comes and goes, but now I cannot differentiate between Cyp and Prop PiP. At night it is really fucking sore and I can't imagine training legs like this. Should I drop the prop and stick with the Cyp and Tbol for now? I can maybe drop the prop which can be added after my last Cyp pin for bridge until PCT. However I don't like leaving things too fast, and was thinking that I should bite the bullet for atleast 2 more weeks to see if it improves.

2) I would like to add the Aromasin to the cycle as I would like to avoid specific high estrogen related sides such as depression and anxiety- I read a very interesting post somewhere that stated that running 12.5mgs ED during cycle can keep your estrogen levels within normal range without completely killing it off. Is this a good idea?

3) I have 4 bottles of Anavar on hand aswell. Originally I wanted to run it, however now I'm not too concerned and don't mind keeping it for a cycle later on next year. I think my bodyfat mught be a bit too high to see the full extent of its workings.

Lastly my goal is to reveal my abs whilst gaining as much muscle mass as possible. I've been in this game for a while and understand my body quite well in terms of nutrition however this is my first "officical" cycle- I did one Superdrol cycle in the past which saw great gains but brought on a massive back injury. Last year I was 89kgs and a beast, hurt my back on squats due to SD and ego. since then lost +/-10kgs and was out of the gym until about 2 months ago.

Cheers!

 

[hurricane]

aromasin 12.5 eod
prop is what is cause your pip, almost certainly
if you can hold off on the var to you get your bf% to near 10% it will look so much better when you use

please check your private messages good friend.

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

I agree with cane on the var. Perhaps hold off, or save it for another cycle down the road when you are a little leaner.

 

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If you would only add a little sterile grape oil along with your Cyp and p,any PIP would be non-existent.

 

[Timberwolf89]

Thanks for the feedback thus far guys! My girlfriend pinned me in the glute yesterday and pain is almost non-existent. Left quad is still a bit sensitive after Friday's pin but a lot better. Just to get some clearance, when should I start running the Aromasin? Also, as I am leaving the Var for another cycle I am looking at what I should brigdge with until PCT from the last pin. Either get my hands on some more prop, or Winny?

Came down with a cold about 2/3 days ago so haven't trained since I did chest on Sunday, however I can already notice small changes: muscle hardness and fullness and also an increase in vascularity.

Oh and one last question, I know Cyp should ideally be pinned on Mo/Thu however will it be fine if I pin on Mon/Fri (FOR NOW) until I stop the prop after which I will start pinning on Thursdays. My pinning regime as it stands now is Mon - Prop 150mg Cyp 250mg, Wed - Prop 150mg, Fri- Prop 150mg Cyp 250mg.

I'm going to look into the Grape Oil that has been suggested aswell. Will pin the ventroglute and see if that is as painless as my glutes.

 

[Johnny 138]

You should start running the aromas in now bro and run of through pct. Additionally, you don't really NEED to run anything between last pin and pct. You say you are going to be running hcg on cycle. Ordinarily I would maybe recommend a hcg blast at 1000 iu during this time, but as you are already committed to running hcg on cycle I'm not gonna try to talk you into using it differently.
Oh, and I think you will be fine with your pinning schedule, all things considered.

 

[Timberwolf89]

You should start running the aromas in now bro and run of through pct. Additionally, you don't really NEED to run anything between last pin and pct. You say you are going to be running hcg on cycle. Ordinarily I would maybe recommend a hcg blast at 1000 iu during this time, but as you are already committed to running hcg on cycle I'm not gonna try to talk you into using it differently.
Oh, and I think you will be fine with your pinning schedule, all things considered.

Thanks for the help bro

 

[Johnny 138]

Thanks for the help bro

Anytime brother.

 

[25homes]

Bro drop hcg start taking hcgenerate throughout cycle. .add gw and s4 from sarms1..need aromasin from agguys during cycle and for pct...go to Evo follow pct sticky