Test P Detection Other than T:E ratio

[jdharris07]

I have searched around and have yet to come across a clear answer.

Can you detect exogenous testosterone usage via urinalysis other than a Testosterone:Epitestosterone ratio? For example, if T:E ratio was fine, is there an alternative way to detect testosterone propionate specifically?

Thanks

 

[zmyj88]

You can't detect exogenous test at all thru urinalysis. It takes a special blood test, and unless you're a pro athlete, nobody's paying that kind of $$, because nobody really cares that much about juice. Most piss tests are ten panel, standard, coke heroin pot, ex, method, suboxone, benzos and so on. I've taken many many piss tests on many different kinds of juice, g2g everytime

 

[jdharris07]

Well I am a drug tested athlete, not professional, so that is why I ask. So I would assume the test is more broad than recreational/rx drugs. Says they ship the urine to a WADA accredited laboratory. Would you still say I should be good. Literally just taking Test P at a TRT dose. Keeping my levels around 750-850. I take it because I jacked myself years ago by carelessly abusing steroids for bodybuilding purposes and natural levels never recovered. I would try to get a therapeutic exempt for it, except I don't have a Rx because I can get it cheaper

 

[gorillahung]

If you are taking it at a therapeutic dose, ie. 200mg/ every 2 weeks you should be fine. The test-epitest ratio is the standard for testing athletes. There is no testing I'm aware of that can determine the difference between natural testosterone and synthetic. The molecules are the same. If you are indeed taking a therapeutic dose you should have no worries. On a side note, some athletes have been known to inject synthetic epitestosterone to shift the ratio.

 

[jdharris07]

Thanks for the feedback. I've been doing even more searching today and come across the CIR (Carbon Isotope Ratio) test for differentiating between endogenous and exogenous testosterone. Apparently it has popped a couple of professional athletes that would have otherwise passed a T:E ratio test. Which sort of concerns me. I've read it is a very expensive test to run, and usually only performed when the first urinalysis looks suspicious. Anyone have any knowledge of this CIR test?

 

[gorillahung]

I think most athletic bodies only resort to the carbon test if you completely fail the T:E ratio test. I've never needed to pass a performance enhancing drug test. All of my powerlifting meets I was either completely natural or I was in a non tested meet.

 

[lmm23]

CIR is right. Without a TUE, you're running a risk. Since you can't micro dose (still carries a risk if you're a prof), it's a dangerous game. Time to get a TUE?

 

[jdharris07]

Yeah, TUE is prolly safest route. Will see what I can do, thank you all.