Test Eq, and tren cycle help!

[VasQlar]

What's up guys!? Planning my third cycle. Looking to run test eq and tren. High tren and low test, and tren for only 8-10 weeks. I also like the idea of using tren ace and test prop together so I was looking to try that. I have an idea of what I think I wanna run but what do you guys think? Someone had told me the change in esters and doses isn't good... A little help?

Stats- 5'8" 185lbs 6.5%bf

Cycle history:
1. Dbol 50 kick, test e 600
2. Anavar kick, test e 600, eq 600

Weeks 1-10
Test e- 500mg per week
Eq- 600mg per week

Weeks 10-16
Test p 75mg MWF
Tren ace- 150mg MWF
Eq- 200mg MWF
Hcg 2000ui per week

Weeks 16-20
Winny 50mg ed
Test p 75mg MWF
Tren ace 150mg MWF
Hcg 2000ui per week

Weeks 20-24 (4 days after last pin)
Clomid 100/50/50mg per day
Nolvadex 40/40/30/20mg per day

Also been toying with the idea of kicking with anavar...By the way I will have Arimidex, caber, liver support on hand for this cycle.

Any suggestions?

 

[Stackinplates]

Why does everyone leave out there age in stats ?!

Can we have that info please

 

[VasQlar]

Why does everyone leave out there age in stats ?!

Can we have that info please

Lol my bad bro!

stats are there now. 5'8" 185lbs 6.5bf

First cycle was dbol kick with test e 600
Second was anavar kick test e and eq 600

 

[Stackinplates]

Lol my bad bro!



stats are there now. 5'8" 185lbs 6.5bf



First cycle was dbol kick with test e 600

Second was anavar kick test e and eq 600

Age!?

 

[VasQlar]

age!?

25

 

[VasQlar]

My main question/concern is the switching of the esters and dosages around week 10. Any negative effects of doing this?

 

[Stackinplates]

Thank you sir !

Ur right at the age where I will consider giving advice

Now that being said ur cycle is a bit on the heavy side for a third cycle tren is not recommended as at ur age and cycle experience there is no 100% that u will recover ur natural test levels to optimal

My opinion is this if ur dead set on runnin tren run that alone with test p

U have way to many compounds In there ! What are ur goals ur already super lean

U wanna bulk up? Is ur winny a oral ? If so don't kick start with oral and finish

 

[VasQlar]

Thank you sir !

Ur right at the age where I will consider giving advice

Now that being said ur cycle is a bit on the heavy side for a third cycle tren is not recommended as at ur age and cycle experience there is no 100% that u will recover ur natural test levels to optimal

My opinion is this if ur dead set on runnin tren run that alone with test p

U have way to many compounds In there ! What are ur goals ur already super lean

U wanna bulk up? Is ur winny a oral ? If so don't kick start with oral and finish

Appreciate it man! So you think something like a 10 week test prop and tren ace cycle? I'm looking to just keep slowly adding lean mass. I thought about running a deca cycle for a bulk but I'd rather available the bloat and do a slow lean bulk. The winny is oral, but just had a bunch left over so I'm not set on using it, especially if you're saying not to.

I'm looking to do my first contest late fall and was hoping to be around 200lbs and close to 5%

 

[Stackinplates]

U know for some it's hard to gain on tren .. I'm one I can eat till I puke and just shred up

Why no prop and npp?

Solid cycle for 10 weeks ur golden

 

[VasQlar]

U know for some it's hard to gain on tren .. I'm one I can eat till I puke and just shred up

Why no prop and npp?

Solid cycle for 10 weeks ur golden

My oral tren cycle I was able to eat like crazy but idk if that translates the same to the injectable or not...

I was consider npp for awhile, I'll have to look back into it. That might be a little pricey from my source though. Would you recommend eq with that? I know that's good for increasing the appetite.

Another question, a buddy of mine runs a pretty similar cycle that I posted originally but with deca in place of eq, I've told him before running deca and tren is a bad idea but he doesn't seem to care. What're your thoughts there? Even if he has the deca and tren split apart?

 

[Stackinplates]

U have some work to do inntheb fall

Hit the npp man eat don't worry bout fat get all the mass u can worry boot shredding later

 

[Stackinplates]

Running two 19's is not wise unless u know ur body and how u relate to prolactin

My question is this why do u think deca will bloat ya?

I'm running it now with no bloat estrogen is in check and diet is low sodium and clean

The gear does not Bloat you its ur diet and lifestyle

Keep Ai in ur regimen and eat clean

Btw why are u dead set on running so many compounds stick to two or three no need for orals here and there and ur 185 man ur new to gear it's ur third cycle ! Keep it simple ! Why would npp be more expensive ? It's not a high priced exotic drug lol

 

[VasQlar]

Well I know people who have run deca, some had bloat and some did not even using arimidex. I guess I'm just worried about it

The source I use NPP is more expensive but not too much that I can't afford it.

I think I'm going to take your advice and run test p and NPP for 10-12 weeks depending on sides and prolactin. Will be using caber e3d so should be good there.

 

[Stackinplates]

What were u thinking to run ur npp at ?

And caber u won't need unless issues arise

If you have your estrogen and check you really shouldn't need the caber plus it's a 10 week cycle it's not like you're running a 20 week deca cycle


But I think that's a solid choice run the prop and npp 50/50 ratio like 500

Or u can keep test low to let the nandrolone shine ( this is what I preferred to do)

Some will disagree because of deca dick but ultimately if you keep all your hormones in balance and take proper medications to give estrogen and check you won't have that issue

90% of the guys to get deca dick say that they have hormonal balance but they never have the bloodwork to prove it!!!!!

Since you have not used nandrolone before there's no need to add a bunch of different compounds!! Npp works nicely !!! sure you'll really get that fullness you're looking for and the muscle mass

 

[VasQlar]

What were u thinking to run ur npp at ?

And caber u won't need unless issues arise

If you have your estrogen and check you really shouldn't need the caber plus it's a 10 week cycle it's not like you're running a 20 week deca cycle


But I think that's a solid choice run the prop and npp 50/50 ratio like 500

Or u can keep test low to let the nandrolone shine ( this is what I preferred to do)

Some will disagree because of deca dick but ultimately if you keep all your hormones in balance and take proper medications to give estrogen and check you won't have that issue

90% of the guys to get deca dick say that they have hormonal balance but they never have the bloodwork to prove it!!!!!

Since you have not used nandrolone before there's no need to add a bunch of different compounds!! Npp works nicely !!! sure you'll really get that fullness you're looking for and the muscle mass

I already have the caber on hand so only going to use that if I see sides starting to arise, thanks for that tip, saves some money lol

I like the low test high aas as well! I was looking to run prop at 75 eod and Npp at 150 eod for 12 weeks. Or the prop at 100 and Npp at 200 for 10 weeks. You think there's much of a difference there I'll see?

Lmao, I see deca dick thrown around a lot but like you said I've never seen the bloods to prove it, regardless I'm not too worried about that.

Also, what're your thoughts on throwing in anavar the last 6 weeks?

 

[Stackinplates]

Think that ur first dose choices
Your cycle history and experience

And 6 weeks var at end is good

I'm doing a very similar cycle with the longer Ester instead of NPP I'm also finishing with six weeks of var

Think it's a solid cycle for ur goals and experience

 

[VasQlar]

Think that ur first dose choices
Your cycle history and experience

And 6 weeks var at end is good

I'm doing a very similar cycle with the longer Ester instead of NPP I'm also finishing with six weeks of var

Think it's a solid cycle for ur goals and experience

Awesome, sticking to that then. Thanks for the help man! Looks like I finally have my cycle planned out. It's been months of me changing my mind about stuff lol glad I have it set now. How's your cycle going?

 

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It's great man I'm at about 215 morning weight started at 199 but I'm not new to the 200's so my muscle memory has helped

I'm gonna aim for 225 the. Cut down to about 210

My bf when I started was 8 ish and now I'm maybe 10 ish feeling very strong have hit lots of lift records had 455 on the bar today for squats hit 6 reps was mixin it up hit 225 for 30 reps the. Back heavy

Massage and donated blood today feeling like a champ! On week 6 and 14 to go gonna tighten up twards the end of my cycle with some anavar my dr prescribed me !!! Gonna try for that 210 at 8%

But will be happy with whatever I get im to the point where I am happy at any state in my regimen lean and 195 very athletic or a bit more mass it's all good in my book !!