Test Cyp/ Tren Acetate/ Winstrol / Proviron Cycle, Please review

[Polish Hammer]

Hello everyone! Brand new to this site, but not to the sauce I would greatly appreciate your feedback and tips.
Stats:
29 years old
6'2
238
14-16 % BF

Cycle history:These were some of the first ones i did.

1) Sustanon 250
250/mg per week ( 1-8 weeks)
nolvadex for pct


2) Sustanon 500 mg/week ( 1-8 weeks)
dbols 50 mg/day week 1-6 weeks)
nolvadex pct

3) Omnadren 250- 750/week ( 1-12)
Russian dbols 50mg/day (1-12)
armidex
hcg for pct

And a whole lot more in between.

Last one I did.....

Test 400- 1200 mg/week ( 12 weeks)
Primobolan 600 mg/week (16 weeks)
Annavar 60 mg ED ( 16 weeks)
Armidex/ED
HCG 250-500 iu /week (depends on how high they got lol)


This is what I want to do now.

Test Cyp- 1000mg/week ( 1-12 weeks) (Only ran cyp in small amounts with the t400)
Tren acetate 75 mg ED (1-8 weeks)
Winstrol orals 50 mg/ED (1-8 weeks)
Proviron 50mg/ED (1-16 weeks)(pct)
armidex 1mg ED/1-16 weeks)(pct)
HCG 250-500 iu/week (1-16 weeks)(pct)

Just started GH 2 weeks ago 3.33 ED and plan on staying on it Forever

The cycle you see above I already have and am waiting for some pros advice.
This is my first time running Tren, very excited but not sure if i have the right dosage. Also i would like to be cautious about it, from the research ive done... I want to make sure I dont do too much.

For the Tren I have liv 52 and waiting on some caber.

I just started dieting and eat very clean with low carbs and about 480 g of protein mostly from chicken. No red meat and only protein shake after gym. 6 meals

Thank you for taking the time to review this.

 

[CaliRobK]

That's a pretty high weekly dosage of test. I have run 750 mg of test/week with 300 mg/week of tren E previously.

I am currently taking 250mg/week test and 400mg/week tren and am enjoying the latter MUCH more. I am experiencing practically no sides except occasional night sweats. The higher test cycle caused me to break out in painful cystic acne and my bp to skyrocket. No fun.

Also, there is no need to run HCG throughout the entire cycle. Save it for the last four weeks and run HCGenerate during. Im not too sure if this is an issue but i would also consider offsetting your proviron and winstrol so you don't run them simultaneously, two orals can be pretty stressful on the ol liver and that bad boy is kind of important.

Or think about just running masteron in lieu of the proviron. Hope this helps bro!

 

[Polish Hammer]

Thanks Calirobk. I will definitely offset the winstrol and proviron.
I think ill start with the proviron and end withe winny.

Test Cyp- 1000mg/week ( 1-12 weeks) (Only ran cyp in small amounts with the t400)
Tren acetate 75 mg ED (1-8 weeks)
Winstrol orals 50 mg/ED (8-12 weeks)
Proviron 50mg/ED (1-8 weeks)(PCT) and weeks 12-16 for PCT
armidex 1mg ED/1-16 weeks)(PCT)
HCG 250-500 iu/week (8-12 weeks)(PCT)
GH 3.33 ED

Ill go online and find some hcgenerate.
Thanks for the help.

And yes a gram of test is a lot , but Ive used large doses the last few cycles with great results. I tried going with a lower does last year but not with the same effect.
My receptors arent what they used to be. Ive been 3 months on juice and 3 months off for a while now. Maybe a longer break is in order..... after this cycle.
I dont get much sides, maybe a bit of agression. ( at high doses)

Any advice on the tren dosage ?
what do you prefer ED or EOD ?
and hows the fat burn on it ?

 

[UA_Iron]

Proviron is not harsh on the liver. You can run it with the winny. 8 weeks of winny is a long time. I cap out at about 4-6 weeks just because of joint pain more than anything else.

No red meat and low carb - how many g's of carbs/day? I take it you're trying to lean out? Calories are definitely easier to get with fattier cuts of meat. Tren has made me hungry like animal and I have found it tough to avoid carbs - like stevesmi has reported.

As far as cycle composition goes, I prefer to stagger my harsh androgens near the end. The greatest affect of them can be seen when you're the leanest (towards end of cycle). But that doesn't mean anything needs to change in your cycle, just more info to consider.

 

[dylangemelli]

Hello everyone! Brand new to this site, but not to the sauce I would greatly appreciate your feedback and tips.
Stats:
29 years old
6'2
238
14-16 % BF

Cycle history:These were some of the first ones i did.

1) Sustanon 250
250/mg per week ( 1-8 weeks)
nolvadex for pct


2) Sustanon 500 mg/week ( 1-8 weeks)
dbols 50 mg/day week 1-6 weeks)
nolvadex pct

3) Omnadren 250- 750/week ( 1-12)
Russian dbols 50mg/day (1-12)
armidex
hcg for pct

And a whole lot more in between.

Last one I did.....

Test 400- 1200 mg/week ( 12 weeks)
Primobolan 600 mg/week (16 weeks)
Annavar 60 mg ED ( 16 weeks)
Armidex/ED
HCG 250-500 iu /week (depends on how high they got lol)


This is what I want to do now.

Test Cyp- 1000mg/week ( 1-12 weeks) (Only ran cyp in small amounts with the t400)
Tren acetate 75 mg ED (1-8 weeks)
Winstrol orals 50 mg/ED (1-8 weeks)
Proviron 50mg/ED (1-16 weeks)(pct)
armidex 1mg ED/1-16 weeks)(pct)
HCG 250-500 iu/week (1-16 weeks)(pct)

Just started GH 2 weeks ago 3.33 ED and plan on staying on it Forever

The cycle you see above I already have and am waiting for some pros advice.
This is my first time running Tren, very excited but not sure if i have the right dosage. Also i would like to be cautious about it, from the research ive done... I want to make sure I dont do too much.

For the Tren I have liv 52 and waiting on some caber.

I just started dieting and eat very clean with low carbs and about 480 g of protein mostly from chicken. No red meat and only protein shake after gym. 6 meals

Thank you for taking the time to review this.

Your tren dosage for a first run is quite high... Most start at 50-75 mg EOD with tren... Its smart to run the short ester so if you have to stop it will clear right away but I would definitely not recommend running that much on a first cycle... I am happy that you brought up caber so that is covered... I would HIGHLY recommend running n2guard with your orals and tren as well as it protects you in every way... I am able to run winstrol for 8 weeks but many are not... I thought it was a great kickstart but also love it on the end of cycles as well to really polish off the gains... you could keep it as is and run halo on the back end or kick start with tbol and finish with winstrol... you are fine to run proviron the entire cycle if you want... it is not toxic like other orals... I have a strong feeling you will not like tren running your test that high... You may have ran it that way in the past, but its a different concept when your running tren... You need to ease into this and take the proper precautions... Just because your an experienced user does not factor in when using tren... Its a completely different story and I think you are diving into it much too fast and hard bro... I just would hate for you to waste a cycle because you went too hard at first... Your test dosage is just out of line for this cycle bro... Also running hcg that long is not good at all! 4 weeks of it is more than enough... That is the beauty of hcgenerate ES in that it provides you so much on cycle... You can run that 8 weeks and then run hcg at 500 ius week for 2 weeks and then blast it 2 weeks at 1000 ius week right up to pct... you don't want to use it in pct bro... You could really have a great cycle but you need to take all the proper precautions here and run it right...

 

[Polish Hammer]

Yes I am trying to lean out, there an amateur show id like to do and that is why the diet is happening, i consume between 50-75 g carbs each day. Most of it from oatmeal.
I think I will reduce my Test and Tren dosages, and try it for a week or 2. Ill try 500 mg test cyp /week and 75 mg EOD. Well see what happens, i am very much open to constructive criticism. I will check online for N2gaurd as well and get it ASAP...just going to do some research on it first. DEfinitely picking up some HCgenerate!
Thank you for the info on Tren, from the research ive done.... I thought I should ask some vets on it and not rush into it. I want to enjoy it and reap the benfits and not get a crazy tren cough and all the other sides with it. The smaller dose is definitley a must, since a few members suggested so because of the Tren.Thanks people

 

[NegroPops]

I would lower the test dose to between 250-500 mg a week.. it is really just there for support. Tren will be your work horse.. and will overshadow any type of gains you will get from test.. at any amount. So I would just keep it low in my opinion.

I think you could add in some EQ, and extend your cycle a little bit.

1-16 Test Cyp 250 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose 600 mg/week
9-16 Tren Ace 100 mg/eod
11-18 Winstrol 60-80 mg/day