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Technicality results in rape charge against 14-year-old

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Technicality results in rape charge against 14-year-old girl
by Sandy Maple

A teen girl in Kansas has found herself in a waking nightmare, charged with rape of a thirteen-year-old boy. The girl, who wishes to remain anonymous, was fourteen at the time of the alleged crime and she claims she was the one violated, not the other way around.

She tells a local news channel that she and three friends were spending a Saturday night together, watching movies and just hanging out. When two of her friends left the room, she says the thirteen year old boy forced himself on her. About a month later, she visited her school counselor to talk about what happened. "I wanted help because it was my first time and I was scared," she says.

The counselor went to the police and here's where things get even more messed up: the cops charged the girl with rape and criminal sodomy. No, it wasn't a paperwork error. Under Kansas law, sex with anyone under the age of fourteen is considered rape, even if it is consensual. Obviously the boy consented to the sex, but because he was under fourteen and the girl was over fourteen, he was raped.

The girl is telling her story because she wants people to know what is happening to her. Her lawyer, Sean Shores, is so outraged that he is defending her free of charge. "She went to her counselor, she asked for help, reached out for help and the message they sent her was--she should have kept her mouth shut," says Shores.

The message I am getting here is that common sense is dead. And buried in a steel box in the center of the earth. Let's hope they can dig it up before this girl's trial begins next month.


Sumner County Teen Says She's The Rape Victim

by Jim Grawe

A Sumner County teenager wants her identity hidden, but she wants everybody to know what's happening to her. She's charged with rape and criminal sodomy after a gathering with three friends.

"It was Saturday night and we were all just sitting around watching a movie, just talking and stuff like that," she says.

Then the girl says two friends left the room, leaving her alone with the boy who she says had been her friend up until then. She says he forced himself on her. The girl says she told her school counselor about it a month later.

"I wanted help because it was my first time and I was scared," she says.

The counselor went to police and before long this girl who was 14 at the time, was being charged with raping the boy who was a few months younger and still 13 years old. Kansas law says sex with anyone under 14, even if it's consensual, is rape. Deciding to actually prosecute a child in this situation is another matter.

Deputy Sumner County Attorney Evan Watson simply says, "I am not in a position to discuss the facts or issues involved in any pending juvenile offender cases."

Attorney Sean Shores says he is so outraged that he is defending the girl free of charge.

"She went to her counselor, she asked for help, reached out for help and the message they sent her was--she should have kept her mouth shut," says Shores.

The trial is scheduled to begin in five weeks.
 
Smurfy said:
I wonder how we know what really happened

Only two people know and their interpretation of reality could be two different things but what we do know it is not what did or did not happen that is why this girl is being charged it is an absurd law that places no precedent of the actual events but only their ages.
 
Smurfy said:
I wonder how we know what really happened

We don't, so until then we'll sling alot of shite about on this thread.

She was probably gagging for it but had to wait until her friends left the room so she wouldn't have to deal with the high school social stigma of being known as the school bike!
 
velvett said:
LOL

If it were a boy every guy on this site would be in here screaming OUTRAGE!


all a woman has to do is say a man raped her and the man is guilty till proven innocent. you'll get the reaction you stated because it is such a fucked up issue for men that there is little to no sympathy in situations like this or any. it sucks. as a male i actually had a chick try to say shit when i was a freshman in college. i heard she was crying to a group of guys so i went and got the guys, broguht them to her, and confronted her in front of everyone. her story changed so quickly it was ridiculous. thats all it takes though. a slippery little cunt turns the situation into something that never happened and it doesnt matter. its life or death for the accused and if it gets out that charges are filed, your future is done. i have no sympathy for any women unless they are raped, for real, no 2 weeks later because im ashamed of myself raped. date rape, though it happens, has become affirmative action for women. thats a dangerous place to be.
 
timtim said:
all a woman has to do is say a man raped her and the man is guilty till proven innocent. you'll get the reaction you stated because it is such a fucked up issue for men that there is little to no sympathy in situations like this or any. it sucks. as a male i actually had a chick try to say shit when i was a freshman in college. i heard she was crying to a group of guys so i went and got the guys, broguht them to her, and confronted her in front of everyone. her story changed so quickly it was ridiculous. thats all it takes though. a slippery little cunt turns the situation into something that never happened and it doesnt matter. its life or death for the accused and if it gets out that charges are filed, your future is done. i have no sympathy for any women unless they are raped, for real, no 2 weeks later because im ashamed of myself raped. date rape, though it happens, has become affirmative action for women. thats a dangerous place to be.
A friend of mine has his life and doctor career destroyed with the accusation. Although he was proven innocent, it was too late as the damage had been done. It's hard to be sympathetic.
 
timtim said:
all a woman has to do is say a man raped her and the man is guilty till proven innocent. you'll get the reaction you stated because it is such a fucked up issue for men that there is little to no sympathy in situations like this or any. it sucks. as a male i actually had a chick try to say shit when i was a freshman in college. i heard she was crying to a group of guys so i went and got the guys, broguht them to her, and confronted her in front of everyone. her story changed so quickly it was ridiculous. thats all it takes though. a slippery little cunt turns the situation into something that never happened and it doesnt matter. its life or death for the accused and if it gets out that charges are filed, your future is done. i have no sympathy for any women unless they are raped, for real, no 2 weeks later because im ashamed of myself raped. date rape, though it happens, has become affirmative action for women. thats a dangerous place to be.

I'm just being a wise-ass (in this thread because what really happened has nothing to do with Kansas law).

If you look at some of my old responses on this sort of topic I find it rather appalling that a woman can destroy a man (men's) life with a single damning statement. It's their lies that makes it near impossible for the real victims to find closure and justice for their situation.
 
velvett said:
I'm just being a wise-ass (in this thread because what really happened has nothing to do with Kansas law).

If you look at some of my old responses on this sort of topic I find it rather appalling that a woman can destroy a man (men's) life with a single damning statement. It's their lies that makes it near impossible for the real victims to find closure and justice for their situation.


i figured that. i just love these topics. your last sentence sums up everything. a few wackos slobs ruined things for the women who truely have been victims of sexual assault. sucks.
 
velvett said:
LOL

If it were a boy every guy on this site would be in here screaming OUTRAGE!
If the girl were 13 and the guy 30 some people on here would still be mad that the guy was charged with rape, sadly.


It is a ridiculous result in this case. There should always be an exception for parties who are within 2 years of each other and both still under 18. Also, here the girl didn't commit the act. The mens rea does not exist here and this is a crime of intent. If she didn't intend to have sex, she couldn't have raped anyone.
 
All of these archaic, inane laws involving sex and underage teenagers need to be reviewed. I'm tired of hearing about teens with one or two years age difference gettin busy and the older one being charged with goddamn statutory rape.

Hey legislators, teens like to fuck. Have ya noticed? STFU about it already, you puritanical pricks.
 
timtim said:
i figured that. i just love these topics. your last sentence sums up everything. a few wackos slobs ruined things for the women who truely have been victims of sexual assault. sucks.

I know a guy that while in the Army his white girlfriend's family forbid her to see him anymore (because he was black) and long story short she saw him anyway and got caught. She told her family that he raped her and sure enough he was found guilty - he's still serving time.

He was only 20 years old at the time and because she lack the courage to stand up to her family she destroyed another human being's life and reputation.
 
velvett said:
I know a guy that while in the Army his white girlfriend's family forbid her to see him anymore (because he was black) and long story short she saw him anyway and got caught. She told her family that he raped her and sure enough he was found guilty - he's still serving time.

He was only 20 years old at the time and because she lack the courage to stand up to her family she destroyed another human being's life and reputation.
WOW. How could she live with herself?
 
The girl is not telling her story because she wants people to know what is happening to her. That's a thought only an adult would have. Most teens would want to make it all go away.
 
I remember velvetts thread about the death of common sense.

Quite applicable here. This application of makes no sense at all. Didn't the police realize the law is supposed to protect the victim?



b0und (shakes head)
 
This is just one of many examples of how the realities of sexual politics, and the rigidity of sexual law, don't match.
 
velvett said:
I know a guy that while in the Army his white girlfriend's family forbid her to see him anymore (because he was black) and long story short she saw him anyway and got caught. She told her family that he raped her and sure enough he was found guilty - he's still serving time.

He was only 20 years old at the time and because she lack the courage to stand up to her family she destroyed another human being's life and reputation.


she should kill herself. fucking whore.
 
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velvett said:
LOL

If it were a boy every guy on this site would be in here screaming OUTRAGE!

No we wouldnt.. its outrageous to charge any kid with a crime like this (unless he actualy did rape her.. then he should be charged.)

But i cant see how the girl did anything wrong.. on the other hand.. she may just feel guilty about what happened and is claiming rape.

Problem is after a whole month.. it would be real hard to prove.
 
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