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Sustanon 250 is held highly in the steroid community as a very effective testosterone, mainly because of the 4 different ester release times making it the perfect choice for a cycle !! Now before I continue I would just like to say I am by no means an expert on steroids but I do consider myself to be very knowledgeable of them and the chemical effects it has on the human body.. I have been researching them since I was 16 years old and I have a medical and chemistry background that helps me understand them even better .. I have done 6 cycles as of now , actually I'm on my 7th cycle as we speak.
So my first cycle was just an oral cycle of anabol ( dianabol ) when I was 16 years old . I was dumb !! Fast forward 10 years!! I do my fist real cycle at 26 of omnadren which is the same as sustanon. I did 500mg a week for 12 weeks. I gained a total of 16 pounds which was great I'm sure though I could of gained more if my diet was in check !! So I did my pct for 6 weeks and took another 6 weeks off and did another 12 week cycle. But this time I had decided to use test enth (Galenika). This time my diet was not on what so ever but my training has always been 100%. At the end of my cycle I had gained 28 pounds !!!!!!! How the hell did I gain more weight on this cycle then the omnadren cycle ... Then it dawned on me.. I got better results from test enth because of it being a single ester and giving me a nice even flow of stable test levels .. The omnadren or sustanon has 4 different esters at different release times so I was not really getting the full benefit of the test and my levels were everywhere.. Sustanon and omnadren was actually meant to be injected only once a month for TRT giving the user a steady flow of test levels .. So I started doing research on the web on sustanon and I came across an article on sustanon and how to benefit from the product even more .. In my opinion the guys who wrote this article really put there thinking caps on cause this is the best article I ever read and it did me wonders ..
This migth be more like an advise :
The proper use of Sustanon in a cycle
One of the most misunderstood ideals when it comes to Sustanon is how to properly use it in a cycle. There is no wrong way, but there is a best way to administer proper doseages so you can fully benifit from the esters in Sustanon.
Sustanon was developed for the primary reason of hormone replacement, and because of the mix of esters most patients only needed one shot a month to keep their hormone levels balanced. Because of this design, the bodybuilder will not recieve proper doseages at once or twice a week injections. Your blood levels will fluctuate up and down continually, which is not what you want while on a cycle. You want stable levels to give your body the best chance it can have to build plenty of muscle.
All test is the same, but once only the ester is removed. People that say test is test are wrong unless you are assuming that the ester has already been removed. I have had plenty of different results fromt the different tests I have used, as well as I am sure you have too. The secret to making sus work correctly, is timing the esters so the blood levels do not fluctuate.
I will assume that everyone knows how an ester works and why one is added to the parent testosterone. With sustanon, you have 4 esters:30mg of prop60mg of phenylprop60mg of isocaproate100mg of deconateCombined to give you 250mg. Now everyone knows for themselves how much test they should take due to previous cycles or no cycles at all. Lets take each ester and see how long they will stay active in the body. 30mg of prop--Prop needs to be injected at least every other day to get the full benifits of the test. I think every third day is a little too long to wait, although some people may disagree. Now lets say you are doing a prop only cycle and injecting 30mg twice a week. You can see already that is a waste of gear. If you inject 30mg of prop twice a week you are totally wasting your time. You will NOT grow off of this, so you can basically take sus and knock it down to 220mg an amp if you are injecting once or twice a week. 60 mg of phenylprop--Phenylprop is not that much different than prop. You can get away with injecting the phenylprop ester every third day. Anyone that has taken nandrolone with a phenylprop ester knows that it is shorter acting and must be injected twice a week (for example, getwoods powder). If injected twice a week, then lets even cushion the amount, you will have all 120 mg in one week.
To recap, so far this is what you get the first week---180 mg of test in your system. If you ask me that was a waste of two amps. That is barely enough to supress the axis, and that is about all you will have happen if you inject 180mg of test per week. Now lets look at the longer acting esters in sus. 60mg of Isocaproate--Isocaproate will give you a duration of about a week before it is let go. This is not bad, but at 60 mg you are still not getting enough test to make it worth the time. 100mg of Deconate--Here is the daddy of the four esters. This is the same ester that is used in Decca-Durabolin. The deconate ester should really average out at 2 weeks, but has been said to last up to 3.This ester was added at a 100mg dose to balance out the quicker acting esters used in sustanon.
If we review one more time, we can see roughly how much test we will have in our body per week when we use sus, and hopefully you can see it is very low. You can pretty much take out the prop and phenylprop until about week 3 or 4, because once the other esters release the test and it gets time to build up in the system, the prop and phenylprop is useless. Not until around week six are you going to get your test levels high enough to do any good, and if you are on a 10 week cycle and start tapering week 8, then your test have been only relatively high for about 2-3 weeks. Call me crazy, but that is not at all what I want in a cycle. Every test cycle should be started high to hit those receptors hard, and I dont even taper at the end (but that is a different story).
The numbers that BIGDAWG and I worked on basically show that your test levels will never at one time be stable for more that a couple of weeks. Why do you think that people say they have less bloat on sus and less sides. There is so little of the short acting test in your system at one time that it is impossible to get any bloat or side effects at all. So you ask, well what is the best way to take sus then? First I would answer dont buy it. If you really want to use a 4 blend test then buy some of the old omna (not the new ones), they have more shorter acting tests in them and the blood levels will stay more equal.
If you dont believe me, ask anyone that has used the old omna and they will tell you they got quite a bit of bloat from it. Reason being is the shorter acting esters in the omna build up your blood levels quicker, hence you have the bloat factor. If someone doesnt like my first answer, then I will give them a second, "inject the sus everyday or at the least every other day." I usually get the "wholly ****, thats crazy!!!" answer. I usually tell them back, no its not crazy, its science. The actual science of sus combined with a bodybuilders needs equal injecting every day.
People seem to forget about the esters and think they are injecting all of 1750mg each week and getting every mg of it. Trust me folks, I am not talking about injecting 7 amps a week for 10 weeks, I am suggesting injecting an amp a day for 3 weeks, and letting the esters do thier work after that. When you crunch the numbers, for the first two weeks you are really only getting the prop, phenylprop, and a little of the isocaproate. Maybe about 700-750 mg for the first two weeks, and for weeks after that when all of the isocaproate and deconate kick in you will stay aroung 600-800mg for weeks following the first couple. You have a perfect taper, if you are into that, and stable test levels. If you go to eod, it will vary a bit, but not enough to really make too much of a difference.
Start off the cycle with 5 weeks of dbol while using the sus, and when you are done with the sustanon, then immediately start injecting two anabolics like eq and decca, or decca and primo/winny. This is a cycle that a lot of the pros are using called front end loading with an anabolic taper. I guinea pigged this idea when BIGDAWG and I were discussing it many months back, and damn it was a really good cycle. Not as good as 1000mg of aratest a week, but still a pretty good cycle. I have cycled sus/omna both ways, and trained relatively the same with the same kind of diet. The difference in the two cycles were like night and day, about a 15-17 pound difference, and two amps of omna a week was my first cycle too. You know, the one you are supposed to grow the most off of because of the virgin receptors. So test may be test, but you will not get the same results from every ester out there if you dont know how to time them. If you are thinking of a sus/omna cycle, give this a try. I promise you will not be disappointed, and you just may thank me and DAWG later......peace.
So after reading this article I did a 12 week cycle of omnadren at 250mg every day for the first 3 weeks then did 750mg a week for the last 9 weeks and gained 34 pounds.. Yeah It was bad ass..
That layout worked great for me, if you don't want to inject yourself everyday for the first 21 days you could also kick start your sustanon cycle with test prop
Example ...
Week 1-12 : 750mg of sustanon
Week 1-6: 300mg of test prop
I feel because of the esters in sustanon one should not go under 750mg a week .. I personally think 750mg should be the starting point with sustanon .. I feel 500 is just to low and your not getting the full benefit from it and your wasting money .. And this is why you hear a lot of the vets saying just stick with test enth or cyp . With 4 different esters it gets confusing ..
I personally love sustanon.. I use it in every cycle between 1000-1200mg a week. I don't follow the articles protocol anymore because I blast and cruise . I cruise on 250mg of test enth each week so my test levels are higher then normal so there is no need to flood my body with high amounts of test right away. But the protocol did work and my friends use it still to this day!!! Hope you found this useful !!
So my first cycle was just an oral cycle of anabol ( dianabol ) when I was 16 years old . I was dumb !! Fast forward 10 years!! I do my fist real cycle at 26 of omnadren which is the same as sustanon. I did 500mg a week for 12 weeks. I gained a total of 16 pounds which was great I'm sure though I could of gained more if my diet was in check !! So I did my pct for 6 weeks and took another 6 weeks off and did another 12 week cycle. But this time I had decided to use test enth (Galenika). This time my diet was not on what so ever but my training has always been 100%. At the end of my cycle I had gained 28 pounds !!!!!!! How the hell did I gain more weight on this cycle then the omnadren cycle ... Then it dawned on me.. I got better results from test enth because of it being a single ester and giving me a nice even flow of stable test levels .. The omnadren or sustanon has 4 different esters at different release times so I was not really getting the full benefit of the test and my levels were everywhere.. Sustanon and omnadren was actually meant to be injected only once a month for TRT giving the user a steady flow of test levels .. So I started doing research on the web on sustanon and I came across an article on sustanon and how to benefit from the product even more .. In my opinion the guys who wrote this article really put there thinking caps on cause this is the best article I ever read and it did me wonders ..
This migth be more like an advise :
The proper use of Sustanon in a cycle
One of the most misunderstood ideals when it comes to Sustanon is how to properly use it in a cycle. There is no wrong way, but there is a best way to administer proper doseages so you can fully benifit from the esters in Sustanon.
Sustanon was developed for the primary reason of hormone replacement, and because of the mix of esters most patients only needed one shot a month to keep their hormone levels balanced. Because of this design, the bodybuilder will not recieve proper doseages at once or twice a week injections. Your blood levels will fluctuate up and down continually, which is not what you want while on a cycle. You want stable levels to give your body the best chance it can have to build plenty of muscle.
All test is the same, but once only the ester is removed. People that say test is test are wrong unless you are assuming that the ester has already been removed. I have had plenty of different results fromt the different tests I have used, as well as I am sure you have too. The secret to making sus work correctly, is timing the esters so the blood levels do not fluctuate.
I will assume that everyone knows how an ester works and why one is added to the parent testosterone. With sustanon, you have 4 esters:30mg of prop60mg of phenylprop60mg of isocaproate100mg of deconateCombined to give you 250mg. Now everyone knows for themselves how much test they should take due to previous cycles or no cycles at all. Lets take each ester and see how long they will stay active in the body. 30mg of prop--Prop needs to be injected at least every other day to get the full benifits of the test. I think every third day is a little too long to wait, although some people may disagree. Now lets say you are doing a prop only cycle and injecting 30mg twice a week. You can see already that is a waste of gear. If you inject 30mg of prop twice a week you are totally wasting your time. You will NOT grow off of this, so you can basically take sus and knock it down to 220mg an amp if you are injecting once or twice a week. 60 mg of phenylprop--Phenylprop is not that much different than prop. You can get away with injecting the phenylprop ester every third day. Anyone that has taken nandrolone with a phenylprop ester knows that it is shorter acting and must be injected twice a week (for example, getwoods powder). If injected twice a week, then lets even cushion the amount, you will have all 120 mg in one week.
To recap, so far this is what you get the first week---180 mg of test in your system. If you ask me that was a waste of two amps. That is barely enough to supress the axis, and that is about all you will have happen if you inject 180mg of test per week. Now lets look at the longer acting esters in sus. 60mg of Isocaproate--Isocaproate will give you a duration of about a week before it is let go. This is not bad, but at 60 mg you are still not getting enough test to make it worth the time. 100mg of Deconate--Here is the daddy of the four esters. This is the same ester that is used in Decca-Durabolin. The deconate ester should really average out at 2 weeks, but has been said to last up to 3.This ester was added at a 100mg dose to balance out the quicker acting esters used in sustanon.
If we review one more time, we can see roughly how much test we will have in our body per week when we use sus, and hopefully you can see it is very low. You can pretty much take out the prop and phenylprop until about week 3 or 4, because once the other esters release the test and it gets time to build up in the system, the prop and phenylprop is useless. Not until around week six are you going to get your test levels high enough to do any good, and if you are on a 10 week cycle and start tapering week 8, then your test have been only relatively high for about 2-3 weeks. Call me crazy, but that is not at all what I want in a cycle. Every test cycle should be started high to hit those receptors hard, and I dont even taper at the end (but that is a different story).
The numbers that BIGDAWG and I worked on basically show that your test levels will never at one time be stable for more that a couple of weeks. Why do you think that people say they have less bloat on sus and less sides. There is so little of the short acting test in your system at one time that it is impossible to get any bloat or side effects at all. So you ask, well what is the best way to take sus then? First I would answer dont buy it. If you really want to use a 4 blend test then buy some of the old omna (not the new ones), they have more shorter acting tests in them and the blood levels will stay more equal.
If you dont believe me, ask anyone that has used the old omna and they will tell you they got quite a bit of bloat from it. Reason being is the shorter acting esters in the omna build up your blood levels quicker, hence you have the bloat factor. If someone doesnt like my first answer, then I will give them a second, "inject the sus everyday or at the least every other day." I usually get the "wholly ****, thats crazy!!!" answer. I usually tell them back, no its not crazy, its science. The actual science of sus combined with a bodybuilders needs equal injecting every day.
People seem to forget about the esters and think they are injecting all of 1750mg each week and getting every mg of it. Trust me folks, I am not talking about injecting 7 amps a week for 10 weeks, I am suggesting injecting an amp a day for 3 weeks, and letting the esters do thier work after that. When you crunch the numbers, for the first two weeks you are really only getting the prop, phenylprop, and a little of the isocaproate. Maybe about 700-750 mg for the first two weeks, and for weeks after that when all of the isocaproate and deconate kick in you will stay aroung 600-800mg for weeks following the first couple. You have a perfect taper, if you are into that, and stable test levels. If you go to eod, it will vary a bit, but not enough to really make too much of a difference.
Start off the cycle with 5 weeks of dbol while using the sus, and when you are done with the sustanon, then immediately start injecting two anabolics like eq and decca, or decca and primo/winny. This is a cycle that a lot of the pros are using called front end loading with an anabolic taper. I guinea pigged this idea when BIGDAWG and I were discussing it many months back, and damn it was a really good cycle. Not as good as 1000mg of aratest a week, but still a pretty good cycle. I have cycled sus/omna both ways, and trained relatively the same with the same kind of diet. The difference in the two cycles were like night and day, about a 15-17 pound difference, and two amps of omna a week was my first cycle too. You know, the one you are supposed to grow the most off of because of the virgin receptors. So test may be test, but you will not get the same results from every ester out there if you dont know how to time them. If you are thinking of a sus/omna cycle, give this a try. I promise you will not be disappointed, and you just may thank me and DAWG later......peace.
So after reading this article I did a 12 week cycle of omnadren at 250mg every day for the first 3 weeks then did 750mg a week for the last 9 weeks and gained 34 pounds.. Yeah It was bad ass..
That layout worked great for me, if you don't want to inject yourself everyday for the first 21 days you could also kick start your sustanon cycle with test prop
Example ...
Week 1-12 : 750mg of sustanon
Week 1-6: 300mg of test prop
I feel because of the esters in sustanon one should not go under 750mg a week .. I personally think 750mg should be the starting point with sustanon .. I feel 500 is just to low and your not getting the full benefit from it and your wasting money .. And this is why you hear a lot of the vets saying just stick with test enth or cyp . With 4 different esters it gets confusing ..
I personally love sustanon.. I use it in every cycle between 1000-1200mg a week. I don't follow the articles protocol anymore because I blast and cruise . I cruise on 250mg of test enth each week so my test levels are higher then normal so there is no need to flood my body with high amounts of test right away. But the protocol did work and my friends use it still to this day!!! Hope you found this useful !!
