Sust/Fina/Winny - 10 weeks

[blaster220]

After running several searches, I decided to make a new post on this particular situation. I have run a Fina/Winny cycle in the past with good results, but I would like to add sust this time. I'd like to keep it at 10 weeks if possible. I am thinking of something around these lines:

wks----sus-----winny----fina
1-------500-------------75ed
2-------500-------------75ed
3-------500-------------75ed
4-------500-------------75ed
5-------500----50ed-----75ed
6-------500----50ed-----75ed
7-------500----50ed ----75ed
8-------500----50ed ----------
9--------------50ed ------------
10-------------50ed -----------
11-clomid---100mg/ed
12-clomid-----50mg/ed
13-clomid----50mg/eod

(clean, high protein diet, liv. protectors, high water intake, possibly liquidex)

Now, I shut down fairly hard on the Fina last go around, so I considered a midway shot of HCG, however, after reading some opinions, I am beginning to disregard using the HCG because of the 10 week length. Also, a newbie to sust, this will be my second cycle whereas my first was fina/winny.

Thanks

Please critique and suggest... I am ready to GO!

 

[BigAndy69]

You crash hard on fina? Then why is it at the end of your stack?

The first 2-3 weeks of your cycle are wasted waiting for sust to kick in...

Start the Fina week 1.

 

[LIBeef]

I did a similiar cycle last year with suspension instead of sustanan. You are going to like it, it made me hard as hell and made my veins pop out all over.

 

[blaster220]

BigAndy69- I don't know what I was thinking... I typed it up in wordpad and had Fina running for week 1-7 so I could use my even 50ml... didn't mean to run it at the end. It has been edited.

LIBeef- Good to hear it!

 

[JayBro]

I like this Blaster.
You dont have the usual "kick start" gear but I would do the exact same thing. The Fina and Winny both run thru the end of the cycle to post therapy which in my opinion is a great idea.

I dont agree with Andy saying that the first 3 weeks is "wasted" but I do know why he is saying it. I dont think "wasted" is the right word.

I would do this same cycle in a minute.

 

[LIBeef]

I did the fina at the end. I think it helps harden the muscles you get during the cycle. The first 3 weeks nothing would have really kicked in not really a waste but when it does kick in you would have an awesome stack. Do some prop if you want a jump start.

 

[blaster220]

Well, to be honest, the only placement I ever debated was the Fina. I wanted to run the first 8 weeks of Sust so that I could let a few weeks elapse after my last shot to begin clomid, which the fina/winny could run up to the last few days before clomid. But like BigAndy says, crashing hard on Fina and running it to the very end could lead to a fairly brutal crash...

I could still run fina to the end and jump start the first 3 weeks at 750mg Sust rather than 500mg...

 

[brotheriron]

How can the first 3 weeks be wasted waiting for the sus to kick in? Thats pretty shit sus if it takes 3 weeks to work, considering half of sus is OUT of the system in a week?
Dont know about your sus, but im pretty sure it contains proprionate, the fastest acting testosterone there is. (Except Suspension of course, but thats water based and therefore different altogether)
Not my kind of cycle mate, but dont worry your 3 weeks wont be wasted, people can put a pound a day on on sus in the first few weeks.
Bro

 

[BigAndy69]

Okay, let me first clear up what I meant about wasted. (it doesn't concern sust only)

Originally before the EDIT, his cycle looked like this:

wks----sus-----winny----fina
1-------500--------------------
2-------500--------------------
3-------500--------------------
4-------500---------------75ed
5-------500----50ed-----75ed
6-------500----50ed------75ed
7-------500----50ed -----75ed
8-------500----50ed ------75ed-
9--------------50ed ---------75ed---
10-------------50ed ---------75ed--
11-clomid---100mg/ed
12-clomid-----50mg/ed
13-clomid----50mg/eod


This is similar to the old diamond pattern starting low and increasing doses as the cycle progress,,,and then gradually decreasing doses. This theory is bunk.

Cycling is fairly simple. You start strong, at the full dose and start cutting back long ester drugs and harsh drugs at the end of your cycle. This makes it easier to come off and you can avoid a crash and keep more of your gains.

Looking at the above cycle...and these are estimations:

Week1: Total amount of AS: 350mg
W2: 500mg
W3: 750mg
W4: 1300mg
W5: 1650mg
W6: 1650mg
W7: 1650mg
W8: 1650mg....

The first 3 weeks are wasted because he is not using his a good dose of AS (ie in his case 1300mg)

His shutdown but not taking full advantage of his cycle.

 

[blaster220]

BigAndy- I appreciate the advice, however you aren't really supplying a definite solution. Are you simply suggesting to swap the fina to the first seven weeks rather than the last 7? I most definitely understand your reasoning... so, in your opinion, what would be the best way to stack these 3 in a 10 week period?

Thanks

 

[brotheriron]

Yeah mate, Im sorry, took it the wrong way.
Start all your compounds in week 1, because things like EQ, Decca etc can take a few weeks for the dosage to build up enough to start working
My apologies..
Bro

 

[40butpumpin]

I think I'd consider running some prop for the last two weeks while on winny only. But I'd also shorten the whole thing up by two weeks but that's the conservative side of me speaking now. I'd wait a week after your last test shot, do 2 weeks of HCG (500iu ed) and then do your Clomid a few days after the HCG stops. But it looks good bro, especially if you've had good success with tren/winny before. I've been wanting to try sus myself soon. I definitely wish you all the best with it brother!

 

[BigAndy69]

Blaster, I would do sust 500mg for 8 weeks, followed by prop, 525mg a week for 4 weeks. Fina 75mg ED for the first 6 weeks, winny 50mg ED the last 6 weeks.

 

[40butpumpin]

BigAndy69, if I may...

wk.
1 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
2 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
3 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
4 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
5 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
6 sus(500)------fina(75ed)--------------------
7 sus(500)-----------------------winny(50ed)
8 sus(500)-----------------------winny(50ed)
9 prop(75ed)---------------------winny(50ed)
10 prop(75ed)--------------------winny(50ed)
11 prop(75ed)--------------------winny(50ed)
12 prop(75ed)--------------------winny(50ed)

Yeah, I like it, I like it!

 

[blaster220]

I like that 40... I guess I'm just a little wary of the progesterone sides that I THOUGHT may have been taken care of last time by the winny... maybe just a wives tale, but I didn't have the sides (gyno) when using fina/winny simultaneously... Other than that, I just might go with that combo!

 

[40butpumpin]

I like that 40... I guess I'm just a little wary of the progesterone sides that I THOUGHT may have been taken care of last time by the winny... maybe just a wives tale, but I didn't have the sides (gyno) when using fina/winny simultaneously... Other than that, I just might go with that combo!

Oops, I wasn't trying to make BigAndy's suggestion look like it was my own. Sorry if it appears that way.

Well, most wives tales turn out to be true (lol), but I have heard that it helps also. If you're really worried about prog, however, then dostinex is the way to go. Bromo too if you can deal with it, just start with a low dose like 1.25mg ed.

hth

 

[BigAndy69]

I like that 40... I guess I'm just a little wary of the progesterone sides that I THOUGHT may have been taken care of last time by the winny... maybe just a wives tale, but I didn't have the sides (gyno) when using fina/winny simultaneously... Other than that, I just might go with that combo!

Maybe you should have some bromo in hand just in case.

40, thanks for typing that up

 

[Johnny Cut]

why not run

1-8 Test 500mg
4-12 tren 75/ed
6-12winny 50ed
9-12 prop 75ed


I am more favorable of running the tren at the end of the cycle, as u can see, i feel as if it tightens things up and works incredible with the winny and help with the pro estrogen with the tren