Steroid, without hair loss effects..

[ali23]

What product can I take that will give me decent results, but without huge androgenic effects?? (hair loss, TOO much acne, bitch tits etc..)

 

[bbkingpin]

What product can I take that will give me decent results, but without huge androgenic effects?? (hair loss, TOO much acne, bitch tits etc..)

deca durabolin, and, maybe, some anavar or some turanabol.
That's about it. If you use any test, use low dose (50mg of test propionate twice per week) if you need to maintain libido. If you are single, why worry about libido and forget test. Also, to be safe, use a topical spironolactone, the 2% lotion goes on easily, used twice per day, the 5% cream is too messy unless you shave your head or have a buzz cut.
I get it from minoxidil.com. I would not trust any other online source like wholesalehairproducts, which is second rate at best.

 

[galaxy]

Also genetics play a roll. Actually many of your Mr. Olympias had decent heads of hair. Probably a sign they responded so well gear. Think about it, Arnold, Samir, Dickerson, Haney, Yates, Cutler, Franco, Zane, Pearl..........not exactly bald guys.

 

[michaelChicago]

mmmmmmmmm
maybe, var and...

wins,trembo,test,primo,masteron,dianabol...hairloss

 

[hurricane]

var tbol .... deca .. eq.. test with propecia .. are some of the better choices

 

[wootoom]

haiross and ance are the least of the worries

 

[galaxy]

I use a shampoo and conditioner called life and another follicle stimulator after showering. Not balding, but a lil thinning so Im just trying to be proactive.

For me my only worry with steroids is hdl.

 

[halfcenturian]

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Only gear I never lost hair on is Tbol. Low dose 10-20mg/ED.

Good gains too.

 

[cop]

20mg thats a low dose bro...what where the results???

 

[halfcenturian]

20mg thats a low dose bro...what where the results???

For what Tbol is suppose to do... the gains were good. Tbol is not Tren, at any dose. I run it as bridge sometimes between cycles to give me a wee bit more then my test only HRT dose.

 

[bbkingpin]

Also genetics play a roll. Actually many of your Mr. Olympias had decent heads of hair. Probably a sign they responded so well gear. Think about it, Arnold, Samir, Dickerson, Haney, Yates, Cutler, Franco, Zane, Pearl..........not exactly bald guys.

No you are right. But most -- i.e., non-champs or non-competitors -- with early signs of negative side effects never get that far because the cost is too great to them to continue taking aas. So, you're right, top guys in 60s and 70s without anti-es had no gyno or balding, altho Franco had a comb over in Pumping Iron. (so genetics is an important factor)
Also, after Arnold retired, Franco in later pics has a unilateral case of gyno. Maybe he tried some different drugs. And Arnold, it appears, like Joe Weider, has a nice head of hair but seemingly professionally done (cosmetic hair replacement). So, eventually age, at least, caught up to the greats like Franco and Arnold, and possibly changing drugs (maybe Franco to win overall started using test or anadrol without anti-e after Arnold retired.) Who knows?
Good point tho Galaxy, just wanted to expound.

 

[galaxy]

No you are right. But most -- i.e., non-champs or non-competitors -- with early signs of negative side effects never get that far because the cost is too great to them to continue taking aas. So, you're right, top guys in 60s and 70s without anti-es had no gyno or balding, altho Franco had a comb over in Pumping Iron. (so genetics is an important factor)
Also, after Arnold retired, Franco in later pics has a unilateral case of gyno. Maybe he tried some different drugs. And Arnold, it appears, like Joe Weider, has a nice head of hair but seemingly professionally done (cosmetic hair replacement). So, eventually age, at least, caught up to the greats like Franco and Arnold, and possibly changing drugs (maybe Franco to win overall started using test or anadrol without anti-e after Arnold retired.) Who knows?
Good point tho Galaxy, just wanted to expound.

Well now we could go down a whole other road that would completely upset Nelson Montana and his man crush on bodybuilders from the 70's.

Your definately right about Franco picking up a case of gyno. And your right. More than likely from using more gear. The thing is he didnt exactly make any progress in the muscles department by taking more gear. All he got by adding alot more test or whatever was a nice case of man boobies.

So maybe his nice head of hair came from using just primo, deca and some dbol and although he had awesome genetics, maybe he wasnt a super genetic God like a Dorian Yates or Ronnie Coleman.

Even if he had access to the drugs those guys had, maybe all he would have got was titties and a heart attack.