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Does anyone know what type of steroids will add miles per hour to the fastball of a Baseball Pitcher?
Steriods for Pitchers (BASEBALL)
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backwardsk091 said:
Bro best answer i can give to your answer is read read. Im not saying you will read the answer to your question cause you wont. But sounds like u need to learn a little more asking a question like that. Not trying to flame just do some searchs and break out the glasses.....
mr. snakes
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backwardsk091:
I red a true story about a pitcher who improved his fast ball with Sustanon & D-bol.
Here's the link for the story:
http://www.anabolicsteroids.com/sustanonbaseball.html
I red a true story about a pitcher who improved his fast ball with Sustanon & D-bol.
Here's the link for the story:
http://www.anabolicsteroids.com/sustanonbaseball.html
bittersuit_98
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backwardsk091 said:
It's really hard to tell man. Like the guys stated above, you need to do some research. Certainly, AAS such as sustenon and Deca and proper diet and trainning are gonna make you stronger as far as putting size and muscle into your body. Is it gonna make you throw the ball faster? It's unlikely. My understanding is that throwing the ball faster has to do a lot about proper mechanics+momentum+proper positioning of your arms while throwing the ball etc. Otherwise we would have Ronnie Coleman and some Pro bodybuilders throwing the ball at 110 mhp in the MLB. Obviously they don't 'cause probably they have no idea about how to grabb the ball properly.
In theory, if you add some size in quality muscle into your body and improve dramatically your throwing mechanics is possible that you'll get the results you're looking for.
Before even thinking about using steroids, you need to take into consideration very important factors such as age, diet, work ethic, habits (good and bad) side effects. If you are a teenager or in your early 20's is pointless to use AAS for such purposes....most of the time you'll find that diet and hard work will get you there and once you start to work out hard you'll be amazed how much room for improvement you have.
backwardsk091
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I am in college right now i am on a strict workout regiment as well as a semi strict diet. Sorry for being so general, i'm looking for a steroid that is going to work on tendons not muscles. Ive heard winstrol will help im just looking for some more info. Currently i am 6'3" 220 lbs. Size isnt my problem its all about flexibilitly and tendon strength. Any suggestions?
DieselGunz
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backwardsk091 said:
NO winny it will dry your tendons out, other than that i dont know, 4 lean strength gains try var,tbol or a low dose of prop test
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch
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deca for tendons and ligaments, anavar for strenght, testosterone for overall well being
so here is it:
1)Run deca at least at 250- 300 mg per week (8 weeks minumum)
2)run test (I like enanthate) at 250 mg every 10-12 days (low dosage for libido conservation and well beeing up and yes, some strenght gains)
3) Anavar (oxandrolone ) run it at 30 mg daily for at least 9 weeks.
Train hard your mechanics and be smart on the gym, also train a lot those running springs for explotion movements.
Do proper Gonadotropin administration DURING your cycle (i like 250 ui's saturday-sunday) during the hole cycle starting 2 weeks after first shot.
Do proper standard PCT use both nolva and clomid.
Do some research!
um and as an advise... avoid winstrol if your'e not using deca or test at high dosages, or your joints will dry.
Very light cycle, Im a pitcher playing aaa, thats what we use over here.
good luck.
so here is it:
1)Run deca at least at 250- 300 mg per week (8 weeks minumum)
2)run test (I like enanthate) at 250 mg every 10-12 days (low dosage for libido conservation and well beeing up and yes, some strenght gains)
3) Anavar (oxandrolone ) run it at 30 mg daily for at least 9 weeks.
Train hard your mechanics and be smart on the gym, also train a lot those running springs for explotion movements.
Do proper Gonadotropin administration DURING your cycle (i like 250 ui's saturday-sunday) during the hole cycle starting 2 weeks after first shot.
Do proper standard PCT use both nolva and clomid.
Do some research!
um and as an advise... avoid winstrol if your'e not using deca or test at high dosages, or your joints will dry.
Very light cycle, Im a pitcher playing aaa, thats what we use over here.
good luck.
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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hmmmmmm baseball/steroids
baseball/steroids
oil/water
baseball/steroids
oil/water
cityhick
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DieselGunz said:
He is right. I think that would be one of the worst. AS and Pitching dont go together like AS and Homerun hitters. I have seen a lot of post about this and every response that I have read said its a no-go with pitching. I understand that you have heard many people using AS to help improve performance(who hasn't) but that doesnt mean it helps ALL athletes. The bulk might just slow you down. But I havent played a game of ball in who knows how long. What the fuck do I know. You will get a full answer from someone here.
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Baseball and gear....
Make sure you have your line down like Dickhead Conseco
" I have never ever EVER used performance enchancing drugs....."
Id say anavar and or testosterone. In low doses might be beneficial.
Make sure you have your line down like Dickhead Conseco
" I have never ever EVER used performance enchancing drugs....."
Id say anavar and or testosterone. In low doses might be beneficial.
backwardsk091
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PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch said:
Thanks alot bro. Im trying to do alot of research i just dont know where to start i guess. Where can i find out what all the abbreviations mean. Fuck im a newbie.
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PolfaJelfa
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371
Backwards...this should have all the info you need bro...good luck!
Backwards...this should have all the info you need bro...good luck!
southpaw45
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lol yet another victim of hearing winny was good for pitching! Prox set up a pretty solid cycle for you. Only thing is, deca has a very long detection time. You might substitute EQ for deca. Its a small percentage better than deca for your joints plus detection time is around 5 months compared to 18. I'd run 500mg/week. Pound your legs and don't jump up to quick with your arms. Stretch a lot and do your bands/jobes daily. Just remember if your mechanics aren't in line your going to put too much stress on your arm and your going to get hurt.
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch
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yah if you get tested, deca is a no no ... as south paw said, EQ can be the replacement,,, but urine bags are the shit!
you just worrie to get some good clean urine ( maybe you can pay some 6 year old)
good luck!
you just worrie to get some good clean urine ( maybe you can pay some 6 year old)
good luck!
fireman664
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as a former player, i KNOW AAS will help ANY pitcher throw a "little" harder. Alot of arm strenght is genetic (just like everything), but if you were to add gear to your long toss regimen (I assume you know what this is since you pitch) you would be sure to add some arm stregth. I would stick with AAs's that dont add alot of bulk, but add strength (tren comes to mind).
I dont have the specific drugs pitchers used since I played middle infield, or as I call it...an "athletic" position (sorry, had to get a jab in there on pitchers). but I do know a ton use. wont turn an 83 mph cheeseball into 90 mph gas....but maybe 85-86.....
good luck
I dont have the specific drugs pitchers used since I played middle infield, or as I call it...an "athletic" position (sorry, had to get a jab in there on pitchers). but I do know a ton use. wont turn an 83 mph cheeseball into 90 mph gas....but maybe 85-86.....
good luck
Pitching is not done with arm strenght... its done with legs and abs and proper mechanics. Will taking AAS add some MPH to your fastball... yea but its not worth it. You'll wind up underneath the bright lights in the OR room couse you blew out somthing. But if your going to be hard headed and take them no matter what run HGH for 8 months with a low amount of test... and when your in the gym work on your legs not your upper body. Make sure you keep your flexiblity. If you don't want to run HGH for $$$ reasons just stick to 250mgs of test a week for 12 weeks... If you wanted to add some deca in like someone said already go for it but keep it low as well. The major problem with AAS and pitching is that AAS make muscle grow and the tendons and ligaments have a hard time catching up with the muscle. Then the muscle puts alot of stress on the tendons and tears them. But yet again my .02 cents is not to touch them and LEARN to pitch first. Make sure you use your legs and your hips and that itself will add 4 mph on your fastball.
southpaw45
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KD1 said:
I call BS. Maybe from a full crow hop but that's extremely rare.
pitch19 said:
Haha. I guess long toss is a waste of time
. Its a combination of everything including body control and balance. Yes, core strength is the most important. AAS time is when your mechanics are close to perfection and you've done a solid long toss program. That's when you'll gain the 2-4mph. And thats a lot! Topping out at 92 look a whole lot better than 88. 
southpaw45 said:I call BS. Maybe from a full crow hop but that's extremely rare.
I dunno what to tell you, my roomate in college was on the BB team ( pretty big NCAA school ) and those dudes would hang out all the time at our place. I dunno why they would make it up. They would mess around with the gun after practice and there were a couple guys on the team who could get 100+ on it. Both outfielders.
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KD1 said:
I by no means am saying you are lying....but in the HISTORY of the game, you could count the number of pitchers who throw 100+ on less than ten fingers. I am guessing that the "gun" they were using was way off, combined with guys who did have great arms taking a big crow hop and letting it fly. (true 90 mph is extremely fast (the juggs gun, not the ray gun which is +5 or so, and the one the major leagues uses ), and almost unhittable....atleast for me )
but any guy who could even come close to 100 mph could go to the next open tryout anywhere and be signed that day to a minor league contract, even if they never pitched and were 30 years old. lol
backwardsk091 said:
Pitchers generate power with their legs and speed with their arms. Their legs and hips must be strong and powerful while their arms must remain flexible, ie. no heavy lifting for arms and shoulders but needed for legs and hips.
That being said I would say that any aas that would provide the ability to bulk and gain strength without bloating would be the one to go with.
Someone who knows more about aas than me should know the best one to go with.
southpaw45 said:Haha. I guess long toss is a waste of time
Long toss is not a waste of time but its not the best thing to do. Long toss hurts more pitchers than helps. Long tossing won't do a thing if you don't keep the ball on a line... throwing a 100 yd rainbow hurts you because your concentrating on throwing it that far forgetting mechanics and putting all the stress on your arm. Pitching is the transfer of weight and power from one leg to the other while using the arm as a whip. If you want to start on a "solid" long toss program you do it by keeping the ball on a line...
And on to another thing about the radar gun... jugs guns are terrible.. they are never right... most of the time they are 3-4 high. the only accurate gun on the market for baseball is the Stalker. Thats the only thing a scout will use... The MLB uses Jugs gun more or less to hype up the audience. The true speed of most of the guys throwing in the MLB is about 2 mph slower than what flashes up on the screen. Thats why the MLB average fastball is 88-91mph.
Güclü_oglan
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well it's all down to the technique used, of course strength helps alot but you gotta introduce it slowly to your technique
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