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Start or Wait? 2nd PCT or GO?

impulse20110

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Need some opinions from the bro pros lol.

Ok so have done 2 cycles in my past.
Currently 26 Y/O
6'2"
195
10-11% BF

1st was a 12 week sust + deca cycle with deca ending 10th week. used clomid/nolva only for pct. 1st cycle ended mid 2013

2nd was a 12 week test +dbol cycle. Mixing prop and E in first 4 weeks and all E 4-12. I used armidex towards end of cycle as nips got a little sore. PCT i dosed with the standard 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 of clomid + nolva.

The 2nd cycle ended on August 30th 2014.

Been making decent gains even tho i am a VERY hard gainer. Eat/Train/sleep well. So i decided to try a 3rd cycle.


I \always felt great after pct and was patient before next cycle so never did any blood work but this time i decided to get the blood work done before/during/and after to share results. But when i got my results back here is what i found.

Glucose, Serum 64 LOW 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 29 HIGH 6-20 mg/dL 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 30 HIGH 8-19 01
LH 4.8 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
FSH 3.9 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Estradiol 13.3 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
testosterone, Serum 286 LOW 348-1197 ng/dL 01

Now the one i am all bent out of shape over is the test obviously!
I have plenty of energy at gym. Get good wood, and would have never guessed it was that low.


Wanted to mix the cycles and do a 12 week Dbol/Test/Deca cycle.

Should i go for it and hit a heavy PCT?
I currently have HCG i can throw in and use during weeks 1-14 and dose heavy right before PCT. Also have Adex and caber during and nolva+clomid for post.


OR is it a bad idea to start. And maybe do a run with the dr scally protocol.

Im worried about roller coasting back to normal just to suppress and try to bring back again?? VS cycling and then taking PLENTY of time to bring back...
 
Classic reason why bloods are needed all the freaking time when running gear!

U can have no symptoms of low t but have t in the toilet !

Also ur estrogen levels are low as well think dr scallys pct is good because I have actually done it two times to restore my natural levels and it worked well! But there could be better protocols out now I'm not aware of !

I would be very careful not to smash ur estrogen any lower I would actually get unit up a but low estrogen is just as bad as high

The problem with allot this is we ha no base line on where ur estrogen and test levels were before ur anabolic use :/
 
I would not cycle until u get ur levels normal and are able to keep them there for 6 months or longer need to really let ur body adjust and stay in homeostasis with ur hormones before u jack with them again 💪👍💉
 
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