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standing abs

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what is the difference between these two:


3. Strapped-In Abs: This movement is true Westside. I determine true Westside by how crazy and stupid the movement looks. If it looks stupid and feels like if really works then you are on to something. Louie is a genius at coming up with stupid shit! I suppose that it is a contradiction in terms, but it’s true. He has come up with some things that left me on the floor many times. Sometimes in pain and other times laughing to the point of tears. The strapped in abs movement is really best described with pictures (See photos). The movement is a standing cable crunch facing away from the machine. Then you strap yourself from the front allowing enough support for you to lean back into the movement. This allows for a greater range of motion. This is also a great exercise for the squat and deadlift because it is preformed on your feet. The best rep range seems to be in the 5 to 7 range for most people. You want to do this one as heavy as possible.



4. Pull Down Abs: This is the number one abdominal movement at Westside. I can’t think of a single lifter that is not doing it at least two times per week. This movement is preformed using a leather push down strap or some other type of strap on a lat pull down machine. You will pull the strap flush against the back of your neck and face away from the machine. You begin the movement by bending and crunching over at the waist. Think of this as a reverse dead lift. When you return to the starting position don’t be afraid to use some body swing to get momentum for the second repetition. The body swing will allow for a greater stretch and a fuller range of motion in the hip flexors and abdominal region. This movement can be performed several ways. The first and most common way is to train heavy for sets of 6 to 10. The second way is to perform it using ultra high reps. The reps are never counted, just pick a song on the radio and keep going until the song is over.

They seem the same :confused: any ideas?
 
t3c, with the first one you posted -- they wear a belt and connect themselves to something stationary in front of them. It's hard to picture but I saw it in the westside videos.

the second one you posted, they're not connected to anything -- they use their own bodyweight for leverage.
 
these are not as easy as you may think

i have been consistently doing these for 6 months now (standing abs)..... its tough to get really strong on these.

my best now look like this...

60/80/100/120/140 x 20 w/45 secs rest

60/90/120/140/170/12 w/45 secs

i think i saw that childress did 170/15 x 3 sets... pretty bad ass.
 
There are pics for each of these online that should make the difference very clear. In the first one, you are able to LEAN back far because you're strapped to something in front of you. The man in the pic is basically diagonal. They kind look like a standing decline straight-leg sit-up The regular standing abs look more like a straight-leg sit-up.


I compromise and lean back a bit when I do my standing abs. I feel it much more in the abs.
 
did these today....i don't know if my lat pull is just a POS or what...but 30lbs felt sorta hard. I have to lean forward in order to get it going...is that ok?
 
We do both and I have videos if you want the links. I like the ones leaning back (first ones) because you really get a full stretch back....longer range of motion.
 
spatts can you post or pm me a link to em, i'll have some video of me doing these soon.
 
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