sorry i cant let this die just yet....

[Sub-Zero]

i do NOT want to stirr up drama, simply continue a discussion on the english langauge and how its percieved. that should not be too much to ask. its a DISCUSSION forum, where far worse things are posted.

I wouldn't call anyone a fag either if I knew it might offend them.

Dude call your mother a cunt and get back to me. Tell me whether or not she thinks its funny. Or hey, why don't you do a little market research. Call some of your buds a fag in a joking manner. Then call their mother's a cunt in the same joking manner... then report back.

This is not about which word is more offensive than the word cunt.

This is about THE FACT that many, both male and female, find this word offensive thus it has been made known that it's use is unacceptable on elite.

simple.... shmimple

there is A HUGE difference between calling my FRIEND a fag and calling THEIR MOTHER a cunt.

if i called my friend a cunt they would think its funny.

yet i see plenty of people call eachother fag. i was brought up by my mother saying shit piss fuck cunt, but if i EVER called anyone retarded, or gay, or a fag, i was immediately punished. probably because one is hurtful and offensive to an actual group of people, while the other is just profanity.

iv seen plenty of people say bomb the middle east, all those ragheads.

iv seen people post videos and threads about "funny racist spic videos"

iv seen people call eachother faggot, etc.

but yes, i will go home today, and call someone a cunt to my mother, and see what she says. we will then have a dicussion about it, instead of her slapping me and kicking me out of the house, because my mother is very reasonable and explains why things offend her, and allows me to explain why i feel differently, and then we come to a civilized level of understanding.

my mom wont get offended at me calling someone a cunt, because im not hurting any of the "walking human cunts'" feelings, SINCE A CUNT IS A SLANG WORD FOR A PART OF YOUR BODY!!!

but if i called someone a fag, or a nigger, my mom would smack the shit out of me, because that would be offending an enture group of either gays, or blacks.

but she wouldnt be mad over the word cunt, because cunt, does not demean an entire group of people. it just offends some uptight women.

i hope i was able to get my thoughts across clearly on the subject, and i hope that this thread can form into a nice DISCUSSION, instead of people becoming offended and immediately locking it.

 

[H_T_]

uneducated women, mostly.....

 

[Sub-Zero]

the only altnerative i can think of is putting the EF filter to change the word

"cunt"

to

"vagina".

since that is, in fact, the translation.

anything more harsh than that, is just rediculous

 

[velvett]

You know a fag is a cigarette in some countries.

 

[-SD-]

You know a fag is a cigarette in some countries.

So how many fags have you smoked

 

[velvett]

So how many fags have you smoked

Actually none, had a British roomate once though.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You know a fag is a cigarette in some countries.

you know a fag is a derogatory word for a group of people (homosexuals) who have been targets of hate crimes for decades, and lynched and more hated on in modern society than african americans?

 

[bw1]

So how many fags have you smoked

lolololololololololololol

 

[the_clockwork]

I'm a fag

 

[velvett]

you know a fag is a derogatory word for a group of people (homosexuals) who have been targets of hate crimes for decades, and lynched and more hated on in modern society than african americans?

It's American slang not world wide slang.

Look it up sometime.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You know a fag is a cigarette in some countries.

You don't say?

Subby, that thread was actually fairly informative until SOME MEN abused the privilige of discussion and turned it into a farce.

I find it very difficult to believe that if you got into an arguement and in the heat of that arguement you called your mother a cunt she wouldn't smack you silly.

Cunt is not just a profanity. It is used as a derogatory term for WOMEN. <--- women happen to be a *group of people* who that word is used to demean.

Cunt does not = shit, fuck, hell, etc...

You might not find that word offensive. Your friends might not find that word offensive. Maybe even your mother... but that will not change THE FACT that there are many people of both genders here on elite that DO find that term unbelievably offensive.

So it has been made quite clear that its use is just not acceptable.

I don't know how much better I can explain it.

 

[Sub-Zero]

It's American slang not world wide slang.

Look it up sometime.

they only say cunt in english speaking countries cause its an english word.

they say con~o in spanish...

 

[Bikini Mod]

they only say cunt in english speaking countries cause its an english word.

they say con~o in spanish...

English does NOT = American.

We do speak a similar language, but it is NOT the same.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You don't say?

Subby, that thread was actually fairly informative until SOME MEN abused the privilige of discussion and turned it into a farce.

I find it very difficult to believe that if you got into an arguement and in the heat of that arguement you called your mother a cunt she wouldn't smack you silly.

Cunt is not just a profanity. It is used as a derogatory term for WOMEN. <--- women happen to be a *group of people* who that word is used to demean.

Cunt does not = shit, fuck, hell, etc...

You might not find that word offensive. Your friends might not find that word offensive. Maybe even your mother... but that will not change THE FACT that there are many people of both genders here on elite that DO find that term unbelievably offensive.

So it has been made quite clear that its use is just not acceptable.

I don't know how much better I can explain it.

if i yelled any profanity AT my mother in a fight, shed slap me. thats different.

if i called her bitch, or cunt, or fucking moron, or any of those id get hit. if i called someone ELSE any of those she wouldnt care. but if i called them fag shed go crazy on me.

dickhead, or prick, is derogatory ( ) to men. but we arnt all pricks or dickheads. we have them..but we arnt them.

just like you have a cunt, but arnt necessarily one.

it is the SAME exact thing. no ifs ands or buts. if cunt gets banned, im gunna cause a shitstorm untill calling guys pricks or dickheads gets banned, simply because the doublestandard (women love that word) is too fucking retarded over something so simple

 

[Sub-Zero]

English does NOT = American.

We do speak a similar language, but it is NOT the same.

i understand that.

just like cunt= a slang word for a part of a body.

would you rather be called cunt (a vagina)

or a bitch (a female dog)

hypathetically speaking?

 

[Bikini Mod]

if i yelled any profanity AT my mother in a fight, shed slap me. thats different.

if i called her bitch, or cunt, or fucking moron, or any of those id get hit. if i called someone ELSE any of those she wouldnt care. but if i called them fag shed go crazy on me.

dickhead, or prick, is derogatory ( ) to men. but we arnt all pricks or dickheads. we have them..but we arnt them.

just like you have a cunt, but arnt necessarily one.

it is the SAME exact thing. no ifs ands or buts. if cunt gets banned, im gunna cause a shitstorm untill calling guys pricks or dickheads gets banned, simply because the doublestandard (women love that word) is too fucking retarded over something so simple

You are free to have an opinion.

And you are free to express it.

You are also in total control of your own behavior but don't be surprized if you end up cutting your nose off to spite your face.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

C an't
U nderstand
N ormal
T hought

 

[Sub-Zero]

You are free to have an opinion.

And you are free to express it.

You are also in total control of your own behavior but don't be surprized if you end up cutting your nose off to spite your face.

just as you are entittled to your opinion.

i will not stop using the word cunt.

if the mods want to ban me, or make the word "cunt" auto change to "vagina" then so be it.

but i wont stop saying the word cunt, when people are saying faggot, and sometimes even nigger, in this forum

 

[crazyjoe]

i do NOT want to stirr up drama, simply continue a discussion on the english langauge and how its percieved. that should not be too much to ask. its a DISCUSSION forum, where far worse things are posted.

there is A HUGE difference between calling my FRIEND a fag and calling THEIR MOTHER a cunt.

if i called my friend a cunt they would think its funny.

yet i see plenty of people call eachother fag. i was brought up by my mother saying shit piss fuck cunt, but if i EVER called anyone retarded, or gay, or a fag, i was immediately punished. probably because one is hurtful and offensive to an actual group of people, while the other is just profanity.

iv seen plenty of people say bomb the middle east, all those ragheads.

iv seen people post videos and threads about "funny racist spic videos"

iv seen people call eachother faggot, etc.

but yes, i will go home today, and call someone a cunt to my mother, and see what she says. we will then have a dicussion about it, instead of her slapping me and kicking me out of the house, because my mother is very reasonable and explains why things offend her, and allows me to explain why i feel differently, and then we come to a civilized level of understanding.

my mom wont get offended at me calling someone a cunt, because im not hurting any of the "walking human cunts'" feelings, SINCE A CUNT IS A SLANG WORD FOR A PART OF YOUR BODY!!!

but if i called someone a fag, or a nigger, my mom would smack the shit out of me, because that would be offending an enture group of either gays, or blacks.

but she wouldnt be mad over the word cunt, because cunt, does not demean an entire group of people. it just offends some uptight women.

i hope i was able to get my thoughts across clearly on the subject, and i hope that this thread can form into a nice DISCUSSION, instead of people becoming offended and immediately locking it.

When I was 12, I called my Mom a douchebag. At the time, I thought it meant an old lady.

 

[Bikini Mod]

just as you are entittled to your opinion.

i will not stop using the word cunt.

if the mods want to ban me, or make the word "cunt" auto change to "vagina" then so be it.

but i wont stop saying the word cunt, when people are saying faggot, and sometimes even nigger, in this forum

OK... you are clearly a man on a mission.

 

[Basic_wonder]

The oddest conversation ever .....

Females now have cunt, blacks have the N word, we white guys still have nothing that when said we can bash your face in, how sad .....

 

[jestro]

There is obviously a difference in the way people talk to their friends, and the way they talk to their mothers. That is basic fact, anyone who says different is just stupid. Sorry.

Even though this is the intraweb, it is more like a group of friends than a bunch of kids and a bunch of parents.

 

[crazyjoe]

The oddest conversation ever .....

Females now have cunt, blacks have the N word, we white guys still have nothing that when said we can bash your face in, how sad .....

As an African-American I can tell you that you crackers will always be in debt to us, and we will never let the past be forgotten, and we will always get ours.

 

[Bikini Mod]

The oddest conversation ever .....

Females now have cunt, blacks have the N word, we white guys still have nothing that when said we can bash your face in, how sad .....

May I ask you why you didn't type out the *n word* but you had no trouble typing out the other which YOU KNOW FOR A FACT is equally offensive?

White guy bashing?

You must be joking.... When is the last time you saw anyone on elite *bashing* white guys?

 

[Bikini Mod]

There is obviously a difference in the way people talk to their friends, and the way they talk to their mothers. That is basic fact, anyone who says different is just stupid. Sorry.

Even though this is the intraweb, it is more like a group of friends than a bunch of kids and a bunch of parents.

Yes and no.

Some of the members are young enough to be the kids of other board members.

How bout this, we all just *attempt* to conduct ourselves with a modicum of respect for one another? And anyone who doesn't like that just choose not to be here?

How hard is that?

 

[musclemom]

Y'know SubZ, I think this section of the Wikipedia article sort of sums it up:

Usage in the United States

While a small cohort of Americans are aware of the term's much reduced offensiveness in Ireland and Australia, the word cunt remains in America the one word that is so offensive as to be customarily unspeakable. The usage is quite different from other English-speaking countries; in the United States the word solely refers to a woman's genitals or to the woman herself.

It's not a question of WHY or WHY NOT. If you want to use the word, by all means, do so, but don't be surprised if you find women who become furious with you. Don't use that word around women you don't know, or you will risk offending them. For the reason why, I refer you back to Wiki:

Referring to women
In referring to a woman, c*** is a derogatory or abusive term, often considered the most offensive word that can be used in this context. It can imply that the named person is extremely nasty and unpleasant in a way that exceeds the vehemence of the word bitch. In the film One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, the central character McMurphy, when pressed to explain exactly why he doesn't like the tyrannical Nurse Ratched, says: "She's something of a c***, ain't she, Doc?" It can also imply that women are useful only for having vaginas and thus serve no purpose save sexual gratification. Comedian David Cross uses the word to describe Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie in his 2004 stand-up comedy album titled It's Not Funny.

It is sometimes used, somewhat less abusively, in vulgar reference to supposed female inferiority: "Why should I let some dumb c*** tell me what to do?"

In 2004, University of Colorado president Elizabeth Hoffman fanned the flames of a football rape case when, during a deposition, she was asked if she thought "c***" was a "filthy and vile" word. She replied that it was a "swear word" but had "actually heard it used as a term of endearment". A spokesperson later clarified that Hoffman meant the word had polite meanings in its original use centuries ago. In the rape case, a CU football player had allegedly called female player Katie Hnida a "fucking lovely c***".

It's got nothing to do with what YOU or your mother think of the word. You've got a lot of women on this board saying, "We find the word offensive." In our nation that word, along with quite a few others, is considered NASTY, end of discussion. It's a culture thing. Yes, it is a slang word for a body part, but that word, in OUR country, has come to mean something else. Simply put, it's not the word, it's what the word means.

It's like boobs. Why should it be okay for a man to go shirtless and not a woman? Some extra fat deposits? No, it's what breasts represent to those people who make obscenity laws.

 

[crazyjoe]

Fuckin crackers!

 

[jestro]

Yes and no.

Some of the members are young enough to be the kids of other board members.

How bout this, we all just *attempt* to conduct ourselves with a modicum of respect for one another? And anyone who doesn't like that just choose not to be here?

How hard is that?

Sure, I have no problem with showing some respect. Especially if you know a word bothers someone, you shouldn't call them it. But, I don't think the word should be banned entirely. If Subz wants to call me a fat lazy cunt, I think he should.

 

[Tweakle]

It's used as punctuation in the UK.

subz offends me and should be banned, or at least bombed until he learns not to Hate Wimminz

 

[manny78]

Lol at you americans for making such a big deal with the word "cunt". I hear women calling each other cunt every week. It's like saying hey "fag", "asshole".

 

[Basic_wonder]

May I ask you why you didn't type out the *n word* but you had no trouble typing out the other which YOU KNOW FOR A FACT is equally offensive?

White guy bashing?

You must be joking.... When is the last time you saw anyone on elite *bashing* white guys?

Cunt is not in my library of offensive words, never has been and until some one gives me a reason to it wont be. I understand the reason the N-word is offensive, cunt just seems to be a word the females picked to be offensive. So explain the background that gives it all this power and I might reconsider, until then its just another word for a vagina .....

 

[digger]

just as you are entittled to your opinion.

i will not stop using the word cunt.

if the mods want to ban me,

Okay, if you're going to put it that way, you've got a deal.