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Ozz2001

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Ok the sites down i get a sales pitch to read as i wait..Now this site supposts selling this book ect..But look at the bad mouthing,puting EF out in front street...I keep saying how much my firewall gets slammed when i come here now i know why...You people want to put ass at risk by telling the ho,d world your on AAS your doing it in the right places..So if yea ever get caught dont look stupid like why or i didnt know...If this shits not true tell me why the site supports the selling of this? hmmmm
THis is just a small part,theres more....

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Verio

They offer no privacy protection at all, and they will monitor all traffic in and out from their servers without notifying their customers. The most interesting thing about Verio though, is that they host EliteFitness, one of the biggest bodybuilding/powerlifting boards on the net. EliteFitness recently sent out this newsletter:

"As you know, many powerful forces would like to shut down the EliteFitness.com website. Most of them are enemies of hardcore bodybuilding. But once in a while, some of the most vicious attacks come from within the bodybuilding community itself. Last week, Paul Gardiner, President of MuscleTech, and his lawyers came after the EliteFitness.com site, our members, and me with a vengeance.

On January 26, I received a letter from MuscleTech's lawyers at the powerful New York law firm, Kenyon and Kenyon. The letter alleges that by allowing you to post your comments about the MuscleTech brand of nutritional supplements on our discussion boards, EliteFitness.com is guilty of "false advertising ... unfair competition, product disparagement, trade libel, and interference with prospective economic advantage." They also accuse us of infringing their trademarks and copyrights.

More scary still, not only is MuscleTech demanding that we censor your free speech; they also want us to reveal to them the names of our members who have made discussion board posts on EliteFitness.com about their company.

In other words, MuscleTech and their high priced lawyers demand that we violate our own privacy policy and provide them with personal information about, our members - something we would absolutely NEVER do. They further threaten that if we do not provide them with your personal information, they will sue both the EliteFitness.com site and me personally."

Note the words "... that we violate our own privacy policy and provide them with personal information about our members...".

Seems like EliteFitness missed the point. It doesn't matter what privacy policy they have as long as their webhost don't have a privacy policy. Law enforemenct only need to send a written request to Verio (the webhost), and they will have access to all the personal info about EliteFitness members they want, without EliteFitness knowing about it.

The sad thing is that EliteFitness use this to their advantage to try to push even more of their own supplements. These are just a couple of specific examples, but the same is true for all discussion boards/websites located in the US.

DO NOT TRUST ANY OF THEM!


This only clicked in my head to post after AAP posted that your memebership money was going to protect you from this type of thing happening....Is it all true know one will ever tell yea straight up
 
Very interesting Ozz...what do you suggest we do though? this site is home to alot of good bro's...should we all perform a mass exodeous? The site has been here for years..i mean years..and i dont think i have ever heard of anyone getting busted by LE due to this site...not saying im not hearing what your saying but trying to look at the whole picture...
 
swordfish151 said:
Very interesting Ozz...what do you suggest we do though? this site is home to alot of good bro's...should we all perform a mass exodeous? The site has been here for years..i mean years..and i dont think i have ever heard of anyone getting busted by LE due to this site...not saying im not hearing what your saying but trying to look at the whole picture...

If there is any way LE could get personall info from the server that suck's,i don't know shit about that but if it's true then i'm long gone.
 
I have a hard time believing that anyone really cares about this site in the LE community. As far as getting members info in relation to the muscletech situation, there is nothing criminal about discussing their supplements on a bulletin board so there is no judge that would sign a subpoenea on these grounds. They can't go after EF itself because EF is not saying anything about Muscletech, people on the public boards are. It is not different than standing in times square in new york and trashing a supplement. Plenty of other boards say "hey get some dextrose for $10 for ten lbs and mix it with creatine and you have your own celltech at 1/100 the price." If LE was to go after members on this board they would end up on thousands of wild goose chases. People using this board and using juice are not a concern in the grand scheme. Even people who admit openly and discuss juice are in a personal use capacity. It is not worth tying up resources that don't even exist in the first place. Then, to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law by something someone posted on an internet board. LOL Don't even worry about it.
 
Twoguns said:
I have a hard time believing that anyone really cares about this site in the LE community. As far as getting members info in relation to the muscletech situation, there is nothing criminal about discussing their supplements on a bulletin board so there is no judge that would sign a subpoenea on these grounds. They can't go after EF itself because EF is not saying anything about Muscletech, people on the public boards are. It is not different than standing in times square in new york and trashing a supplement. Plenty of other boards say "hey get some dextrose for $10 for ten lbs and mix it with creatine and you have your own celltech at 1/100 the price." If LE was to go after members on this board they would end up on thousands of wild goose chases. People using this board and using juice are not a concern in the grand scheme. Even people who admit openly and discuss juice are in a personal use capacity. It is not worth tying up resources that don't even exist in the first place. Then, to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law by something someone posted on an internet board. LOL Don't even worry about it.

About the Muscletech thing i have no clue but if you think that LE has no interest here you are crazy,they heve been here and on pretty much every other board for years.
 
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr121505.html

This is a link to Operation Gear Grinder. Obviously there is an interest, just not to the extent where anyone will come to a discussion board and poke around without outright criminal activity. The last I knew, we still had freedom of speech. You can't get in trouble for saying that you stuck your a$$ with 1000 mg of deca. You can get in trouble for trying to sell or obtain the drug outright. And as we know, that is against the rules here.
 
Well tell ya this any lawer gets records, information from here for there law suit becomes public record so all the people that are paying memebers have a transaction from a credit card they can knock on anyones door , even worse keep an eye out Damn this sucks this board has been around for years I remember back in the mid 90's elite VS Muscle MAg and Elite one but at what cost to us well even if there is any truth to this I think i am making sure that it wont happen thank goodness i do a month to month
 
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