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smoking trees on cycle
- Thread starter Knights2
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i havent drank in a long time once i got serious about my body and realized i was working to hard to have that fuk wtih my gains. (and yes i am ON, i jsut started a cycle of 750 SUST last week) ill admit i do miss it wen we are out at parties. he use to be a heavy drinker before he got into juice and did his research so now he just smokes every weeekend. so i was just curious how many people here while ON smoke.
gabulldogs02
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I do once in a while.A lot of people smoke while on.No problems.
Knights2 said:
Inhibitor13
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Ive never smoked on cycle but have read a lot of guys like to do it while they bulk. Keeps em hungry. Not my bag of tea though.
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needtogetaas
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I would not even want to go near a gym if I was high...bug me out way to much.haven't smoked weed in almost 10 years.georgie24 said:
todoveritas
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At the risk of a flame, consider the following:
Acute doses of THC or CBD at 10 mg/kg significantly depressed testosterone formation in testis microsomes.
1: Drug Metab Dispos. 1977 May-Jun;5(3):268-72.
Site of Inhibition of Leydig Cell Testosterone Synthesis by 1-Tetrahydrocannabinol
1: Molecular Pharmacology, Vol 15, 633-640, Copyright © 1979 by the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics
I could go on all day, but you get the point....
Acute doses of THC or CBD at 10 mg/kg significantly depressed testosterone formation in testis microsomes.
1: Drug Metab Dispos. 1977 May-Jun;5(3):268-72.
Site of Inhibition of Leydig Cell Testosterone Synthesis by 1-Tetrahydrocannabinol
1: Molecular Pharmacology, Vol 15, 633-640, Copyright © 1979 by the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics
I could go on all day, but you get the point....
needtogetaas
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loltonyroma said:
You want to minimize the amount of toxins going into your body during cycling, I thought. You want your liver to be able to handle whatever you are using in the cycle and not put extra stress on it by drinking or even smoking.
todoveritas nice post.
needtogetaas, I agree, I hate when someone in the gym walks by me and they wreak of tobacco smoke or pot.
todoveritas nice post.
needtogetaas, I agree, I hate when someone in the gym walks by me and they wreak of tobacco smoke or pot.
bluetwistedsteel67
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haha. As they say, a picture says a thousand words.loltonyroma said:
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al420
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todoveritas said:
Well you should go on... go on and read a recent study that completely pwns those studies above...studies from the fucking 70's...are you joking, or are you just a joke?
This kind of shit is hilarious...
Quadsweep, a Mod here, and probably our most accomplished BB (national level), smokes daily from what I remember. I think he is about 4% BF right now - feew weeks out from a National Show.
al420 said:
yea man, those 70's studies were part of a propoganda...
oh yea and they have been proven wrong, i cant find the study, but u can if u search...
also, quad yes i believe does smoke daily, as do I. In fact 2x probably im not at 4% but i am not dieting for 4% like quad is...
weed helps me when bulking, i would be dying with the munchies if i was him lol
juicer99
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I've not smoked while on and smoked while on. The ganj calms me and helps with appetite. If I smoke at all during the day before training I'm screwed (so I don't). But if I'm doing back, and using pullups as the base of that days workout I want to smoke 
Makes the pullups more fun.
No but seriously, I think its fine to smoke but don't train high, you need the intensity.
just my .02
Makes the pullups more fun.No but seriously, I think its fine to smoke but don't train high, you need the intensity.
just my .02
todoveritas
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Not a problem, current research is being led by the French:Bozwell said:
Revue / Journal Title
Toxicology (Toxicology) ISSN 0300-483X CODEN TXICDD
Source / Source
2005, vol. 206, no3, pp. 471-478 [8 page(s) (article)] (1 p.1/4)
Résumé / Abstract
The progesterone 17α-hydroxylase activity… was significantly inhibited Δ[9]-tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA)- and cannabidiolic acid (CBDA)-strains. Testosterone 6β- and 16a-hydroxylase activities together with androstenedione formation from testosterone in rat liver microsomes were also significantly inhibited by the crude marijuana extracts and the cannabinoids. Crude marijuana extracts (1 and 10 μg/ml) of THCA strain stimulated the proliferation of MCF-7 cells, although the purified cannabinoids (THC, CBD and CBN) did not show significant effects, such as the extract at the concentration of 0.01-1000 nM. These results indicate that there are some metabolic interactions between cannabinoid and steroid metabolism and that the constituents showing estrogen-like activity exist in marijuana.
Rest assured, my expertise on these boards goes beyond cut and pasting.....
Knights2 said:
smoking trees dehydrates you so it defeats the purpose of putting on healthy muscle, your muscles need fluid and if depleated of that from smoking trees why bother spend the money on a cycle and all that time in the gym. In addition to that smoking trees excessively can cause gyno in males add estrogen and cortisol increases from AAS and training and this is very bad combination
Welllllllllll nowwwww! 
Yes I smoke....I smoke a lot. It helps me feel less pain from being so drained on the diet. I do not while working ever. I do when I train when I am not dieting but at this point it puts me down too much. The studies listed were done on rats...I am not a rat. (in any way shape or form I might add!) I assure you I am not estrogenic at all and I do not get gyno from herb...neither does anyone else. One study says this another refutes it!who fuckin cares! Let me smoke my weed and chill at home and leave me the fuck alone about it as I do not affect anyone elses life with it....Sorry rant! Smoke away those who like and for those that don't....don't.
Quadsweep
Yes I smoke....I smoke a lot. It helps me feel less pain from being so drained on the diet. I do not while working ever. I do when I train when I am not dieting but at this point it puts me down too much. The studies listed were done on rats...I am not a rat. (in any way shape or form I might add!) I assure you I am not estrogenic at all and I do not get gyno from herb...neither does anyone else. One study says this another refutes it!who fuckin cares! Let me smoke my weed and chill at home and leave me the fuck alone about it as I do not affect anyone elses life with it....Sorry rant! Smoke away those who like and for those that don't....don't.Quadsweep
Quadsweep said:Welllllllllll nowwwww!
Quadsweep
finally
pitbullrocco
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if you are putting 500+ a week of exogenous testosterone in your body, do you honestly think a joint or two (or even a OZ, no fuck that, even a QP) is going to depress and cancel out all that testosterone?
also, if THC has estrogenic properties, i.e. binds to estrogen receptors and the like, who hasn't made this connection? you ingest anti-estrogens/AI's throughout your cycle, right?
on another note, it does seem like the day i quit smoking (everyday, all day), my gains shot through the roof.....could be chemical, could be mental, could be physical, could be magical.
now i think i'll get off my ass and do something productive.
also, if THC has estrogenic properties, i.e. binds to estrogen receptors and the like, who hasn't made this connection? you ingest anti-estrogens/AI's throughout your cycle, right?
on another note, it does seem like the day i quit smoking (everyday, all day), my gains shot through the roof.....could be chemical, could be mental, could be physical, could be magical.
now i think i'll get off my ass and do something productive.
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ALIN
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Knights2 said:
bad idea IMO but many do it and claim no problems. personal decision i guess.
DannoMight
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I do daily. It also increases appetite and calms my nerves.
truckdaddy
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i just pooted and doo doo came out....im sad
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Gambino
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i just don't understand how injecting bathtub test can be considered healthyapbt14 said:
gabulldogs02
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took the words right out of my mouth. I would say neither one is "healthy" for you, but im going to do it anyway.
Gambino said:
almost-pro
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i smoke everyday as well. or most days.
MTS
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al420 said:
i'm sure quad takes anti estrogens also... i dont believe smoking a joint once in awhile will hurt you...but i dont think it's a great practice or habit. there are other herbs out there that will mellow you out and make you feel good without the negative effects of tar and heated smoke on your lungs
gabulldogs02
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shit, i dont give a fuck ... scum in the bathtub or smokin that green. i like em both. 
gabulldogs02
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yohimburn makes them trees shredded 
tonyroma said:
Quadsweep said:Welllllllllll nowwwww!
Quadsweep
personally I do not care what anyone do to themselves or in the privacy of their home, I am no angel and have dipped into tree smoking myself on occasion. I prefer to not do it while on and yes I realize that it does help a great deal expecially when you are on and can't sleep because your AAS is keeping you wide awake.
in order to get gyno you would have to smoke excessive amounts.
but with body like yours, whatever you do works, so keep doing it
fbodyguy02
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samoth said:
Let me help you out here....
"trees" = marijuana
Many steroid users here actually use it while on AS.
fbodyguy02
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tonyroma said:
Bada$$!!!
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Gambino
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samoth said:LOL.
I know many people smoke, weight lifters or not. I just have trouble keeping up with slang. Smoking squares, trees, dipper sticks, lol, whatever.
dipper sticks are cigs dipped in PCP
PCP is sometimes referred to as dust
a PCP induced state can be explained as "dusted"
smoking squares is smoking cigs
square comes from the pack being square
gabulldogs02
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Laid up on the bench in a K hole eh?
