slow release fina... please read

[Judo Tom]

Hey guys..

i was wondering why there is no slow release fina out there???

my friend hadshis doctorate in organic chem and complete access to a lab....we started talkin last nite and he was saying that adding an ester to a compound to make it a long lasting compound is not difficult at all...

i really need help here though.. i mean i can get fina no problem.. and he has access to the esters and all other compounds necessary for creating the injectable...

but am i missing something here... it looks really simple.. but i dont know.. my main reason for doubting this is cause ive never heard of it being done

 

[ROLGOR]

I have heard that one lab is working on it. The reason it's not being done is because it's not for human consumption and there has been no need in the vet field. If your friend wants to go into business I'm sure he could make bucks. You could do it and post your results so we all know how to do it also.

 

[gainerxxl]

It´s no problem to add any ester to an alcohol (like trenbolone). Any chemist can easily do this. Let him make you some tren enanthate, which would be an awesome compound.

 

[liquidmuscle]

but what would the mg/ml be? i mean if we inject 75-100mgs ed then we would need it to be atleast 525mgs/ml-700mgs/ml..i am guessing that concentration that high the pain would be outrageous

 

[gainerxxl]

The longer the esters carbon chain is, the more lipophilic (soluble in oil) it gets. With decanoate you can easily reach concentrations of 500mg/ml.
So there´s no nedd for excessive BA content.

 

[Judo Tom]

I think i will try to get this done soon actually...

Im not sure about the concentration...but even if it was 250mg/ml injecting 3ml's a week isnt too much and would be 750mg of tren maybe 2x a week would be better then...

also if he can get 500mg/ml there wouldnt be any problems...

 

[liquidmuscle]

I think i will try to get this done soon actually...

Im not sure about the concentration...but even if it was 250mg/ml injecting 3ml's a week isnt too much and would be 750mg of tren maybe 2x a week would be better then...

also if he can get 500mg/ml there wouldnt be any problems...

500mgs/ml would be great cuz then i could do 1cc on monday and 1/2cc on thursday to get 750mgs a wk..but damn i can feel the pain in the injection site as we speak...

 

[Judo Tom]

Bro if it was that easy then an underground lab would have done it by now and be making millions off it. I'm not making any accusations here but this thread stinks like a scam.

i understand what you are thinking but i am just looking for any info.. im not a source.. i dont want to be a source... but i really like fina... who doesnt.. but i dont like ed injections..

and my best friend is a chemist so i started talkin to him and he said it is or would be easy so i am just looking for information about making it for me sorry if it came off like a product i wanted to push .... its definately not my intention....

but your point about why an undergroun lab has not done it is what makes me wonder....

 

[Spidey]

Bro if it was that easy then an underground lab would have done it by now and be making millions off it. I'm not making any accusations here but this thread stinks like a scam.

I have to disagree Johnboy. It would be very easy to cleave the acetate off tren ac and add another ester. I thought of doing it myself but had ethical problems with doing it in my lab; It seemed too much of a betrayal of trust to my boss. I have a good relationship with my boss and I think she should be able to trust that I'm not doing anything illegal in her lab. I felt bad enough just cleaning up the fina I bought without actually doing any chemistry on it. But, I digress...

Tren ac with a little NaOH in methanol/water would give high yields of trenbolone. Trenbolone with any assortment of carboxylic acids and a little DCC would give very high yields of tren ester, where the ester is the carboxylic acid used. If cyclohexyl methyl formyl chloride was used instead of a carboxylic acid, you wouldn't even need the DCC, just a little pyridine or triethyl amine to serve as a proton sponge and the product would be trenbolone cyclohexylmethyl carbonate or "PARABOLIN".

The whole thing could be finished in a few hours.

-Spidey

 

[sicklydiesel]

I have to disagree Johnboy. It would be very easy to cleave the acetate off tren ac and add another ester. I thought of doing it myself but had ethical problems with doing it in my lab; It seemed too much of a betrayal of trust to my boss. I have a good relationship with my boss and I think she should be able to trust that I'm not doing anything illegal in her lab. I felt bad enough just cleaning up the fina I bought without actually doing any chemistry on it. But, I digress...

Tren ac with a little NaOH in methanol/water would give high yields of trenbolone. Trenbolone with any assortment of carboxylic acids and a little DCC would give very high yields of tren ester, where the ester is the carboxylic acid used. If cyclohexyl methyl formyl chloride was used instead of a carboxylic acid, you wouldn't even need the DCC, just a little pyridine or triethyl amine to serve as a proton sponge and the product would be trenbolone cyclohexylmethyl carbonate or "PARABOLIN".

The whole thing could be finished in a few hours.

-Spidey

for real ?...thats all you gotta do..awesome!!...

 

[Fonz]

but what would the mg/ml be? i mean if we inject 75-100mgs ed then we would need it to be atleast 525mgs/ml-700mgs/ml..i am guessing that concentration that high the pain would be outrageous

I've made homemmade Fina with a concentration of 200mg/ml.

It stung noticeably more than the standard 75mg/ml.

Fonz

 

[Spidey]

Do it then....I don't know why nobody else would have by now.

I'd wager that people have done it. Just not to sell: for their own use. The next cycle I do (which probably won't be until at least February), I may do something like that if I can get the stuff together to do it at home instead of the lab.

-Spidey

 

[liquidmuscle]

find a guinea pig and have them do a diary posting the pain,side effects,so forth and so on...i am sure we can find someone who would volunteer to test it out...damn why did we ban muscular warrior he wouldve been a good lab rat

 

[bronco944]

shit i volunteer

 

[bronco944]

china man dosnt make his own chem's he buys raw powders and makes them into injectables or tabs from what i understand. i believe that a chemist could make that ester and would love to be the guinne pig

 

[Judo Tom]

I have to disagree Johnboy. It would be very easy to cleave the acetate off tren ac and add another ester. I thought of doing it myself but had ethical problems with doing it in my lab; It seemed too much of a betrayal of trust to my boss. I have a good relationship with my boss and I think she should be able to trust that I'm not doing anything illegal in her lab. I felt bad enough just cleaning up the fina I bought without actually doing any chemistry on it. But, I digress...

Tren ac with a little NaOH in methanol/water would give high yields of trenbolone. Trenbolone with any assortment of carboxylic acids and a little DCC would give very high yields of tren ester, where the ester is the carboxylic acid used. If cyclohexyl methyl formyl chloride was used instead of a carboxylic acid, you wouldn't even need the DCC, just a little pyridine or triethyl amine to serve as a proton sponge and the product would be trenbolone cyclohexylmethyl carbonate or "PARABOLIN".

The whole thing could be finished in a few hours.


-Spidey

ok i didnt get to talk to you too himtoo much but he said pretty much the same thing.. and said he would be done in a few hours..

who knows.. but if it works i will definately be a guinea pig and run it with some test..

 

[newpump]

OK,

If anyone makes Para - please post a FAQ .

 

[Sigmund Roid]

A friend of mine has used tren enanthate in 2 cycles of 10 weeks, and the results were pretty good! Injections were twice per week (2x150 mg) of 300 mg/ml. No pain also, but he did experience fina coughs sometimes.

IMO it is not needed to make tren cyclohexylmethyl carbonate, because it has a long half-life, making your recovery cycle a bit complicated.

Enanthate is cheap and has the perfect half-life.

The synthesis is straight forward, only the purification is time-consuming, because this ester has a low melting point and likes to stay oily.

Spidey, what is DCC?

 

[Spidey]

A friend of mine has used tren enanthate in 2 cycles of 10 weeks, and the results were pretty good! Injections were twice per week (2x150 mg) of 300 mg/ml. No pain also, but he did experience fina coughs sometimes.

IMO it is not needed to make tren cyclohexylmethyl carbonate, because it has a long half-life, making your recovery cycle a bit complicated.

Enanthate is cheap and has the perfect half-life.

The synthesis is straight forward, only the purification is time-consuming, because this ester has a low melting point and likes to stay oily.

Spidey, what is DCC?

DCC = dicyclohexyl carbodiimide. DIPC = diisopropyl carbodiimide. Either could be used with similar results. I prefer DCC because the side product (dicyclohexyl urea) is virtually completely insoluble in dichloromethane (the most common reaction solvent) and can be simply filtered away after the reaction.

-Spidey

 

[ryker77]

Yum. Long acting fina.

But I go along with the others and ask why hasn't any of the underground labs created this product yet? Real parabolan has been gone for years. Plenty of time to create a better product. Also Animal who created the fina kit would have figured out some way to do this.

But I'll keep my hopes up................

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Do ED injections really bother ya'll that much? I don't particularly mind them.

But tren enthate @ around 200-300mg/mL would be damn cool. A few cc's of tren e and test e a week, and you'd be set.

 

[BigD50]

Did anyone read the post with the guy eating the pellets? What's up with that?