Short test prop cycle

QBD · Mar 9, 2023

Hi everybody,

What do you think about my futur cycle ? It will be my second cycle.

W1-W6 : Test prop 100mg eod
W2-W6 : Hcg 500ui twice a week
W1-W6 : aromasin 25mg eod (until blood work)
PCT (4-5 days after last pin) : nolva 40-40-20-20

I did the same one last year and made good moderate gains but i’m thinking all wasn’t optimal, it’s why i need your help

Firstable i prefer to stay safe and choosing that kind of length because recovery was easy for me, at this moment i prefer to keep only one compound, test prop kicked really fast and i prefer to stay away from orals.

But during the previous cycle i did some mistakes, i didn’t take hcg and didn’t take any ai, i did a blood test at the middle of the cycle and my estrogen level was at 80pg/ml (normal range between 10-45) it was a little high but no sign of gyno just feeling a little lethargic sometimes.

So my 2 questions are :

I really want to take hcg this time to reduce shut down as possible and avoid balls shrinkage, what dosage do you recommend ? I was thinking about 500ui twice a week ? Does it looks good ?

Hcg will probably raise a little more my estrogen level, should i take aromasin before mid cycle blood test ? Maybe at a really small dosage like 25mg eod ?

Thanks!

dylangemelli · Mar 9, 2023

the max amount of hcg needed is 1000 ius per week but it is certainly not necessary on this cycle... you do whatever you want but definitely not needed here...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/40/20/20

aromasin (adjust as needed)

N2Guard

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

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25homes · Mar 9, 2023

should be a decent short run. Id bag the hcg personally

stevesmi · Mar 9, 2023

too high a dose of nolva and you need a strong test booster in pct too

the_alcatraz · Mar 9, 2023

QBD said:
Hi everybody,

What do you think about my futur cycle ? It will be my second cycle.

W1-W6 : Test prop 100mg eod
W2-W6 : Hcg 500ui twice a week
W1-W6 : aromasin 25mg eod (until blood work)
PCT (4-5 days after last pin) : nolva 40-40-20-20

I did the same one last year and made good moderate gains but i’m thinking all wasn’t optimal, it’s why i need your help

Firstable i prefer to stay safe and choosing that kind of length because recovery was easy for me, at this moment i prefer to keep only one compound, test prop kicked really fast and i prefer to stay away from orals.

But during the previous cycle i did some mistakes, i didn’t take hcg and didn’t take any ai, i did a blood test at the middle of the cycle and my estrogen level was at 80pg/ml (normal range between 10-45) it was a little high but no sign of gyno just feeling a little lethargic sometimes.

So my 2 questions are :

I really want to take hcg this time to reduce shut down as possible and avoid balls shrinkage, what dosage do you recommend ? I was thinking about 500ui twice a week ? Does it looks good ?

Hcg will probably raise a little more my estrogen level, should i take aromasin before mid cycle blood test ? Maybe at a really small dosage like 25mg eod ?

Thanks!

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