Serostim GH and dosage frequency

[SAF]

I used some Serostim GH last year (6mg kits). I basically used one kit per month. Essentially what I did was mix 1 water bottle and 1 powder together and injected 1/2 the solution one day, then refrigerated the rest and did the remaining 1/2 the following night. A friend of mine recently told me that I used too much and the kits should have lasted a bit longer. Just wondering if any bros here have used the 6mg kits before, I'd like to know your dosage frequency.

thanks,

SAF

 

[Big Moose]

4-6iu per day, 5 days on 2 days off. After about a month at 6iu I started having bad sides and reduced the dosage. I felt better at 4.5iu. I started my second cycle with it tonight. Hopefully I will be more comfortable at the higher dosage. Hope that helped.

 

[SAF]

Ok, so at 4-6iu per day, the entire kit would last about how long, one month?

Also, what kind of sides did you experience?

SAF

 

[1Banshee]

The 6mg Serostim vials = 18IU per vial. If you were using one vial every two days then you were injecting 9IU each time, at least if I read your post correctly. There are 7 vials in one "Kit" of Serostim. So how did you often did you use a vial, to make it last one month? I would assume you used two vials per week??
Anyway the last time I used Serostim I injected 6IU per day, divided into morning and after workout. Upon waking in the am I would inject approximately 3IU, then again approximately 3IU post workout.
In my case I would draw out 16 units on an insulin needle which equals about 3IU of GH. In case you are not clear 100units on an insulin needle is 1ml (which is the approximate amount is takes to reconstitute each vial). Divide the 100 units by 18 which equals 5.5. So 5.5 units on an insulin needle is approximately 1IU of reconstituted GH.
Hopefully this is clear???
In order to store the vials of Serostim for longer than 48 hours, I reconstituted the vials with Bacteriostatic water not the water that is included with the kit. The water included is simply sterile water. There has been alot of past debate about whether Serostim will stay 100% active for longer than 48hours when reconstituted with sterile water. I personally do not risk it and reconstitute with the BA water which should allow a full active life in excess of a week in the refrigerator.
Sorry for the long winded reply!! The bottom line is whatever dosage you decide on (and everyone definitely has their own opinion here) divide it in two injections a day one early the other about mid-afternoon or post workout. I personally dose at 6IU pd and have been very happy with the results.

 

[1Banshee]

The only negative side I have ever noticed was increased sweating!! That it...

 

[SAF]

Sorry, I forgot to mention, when I was taking 9iu per day, I would take 2 days off, then recycle. So, 9iu one day, 9iu the following day, then 2 days off. Therefore, 1 bottle would basically cover 4 days, 7 bottles * 4 days = 28 days of dosages, approx. 1 month for 1 kit.

Anyway, using your approach, at 6iu per day, that would mean that a single bottle of 18iu would last 3 days. So, 7 bottles * 3 days = 21 days of coverage, and, you said that you injected 5 days on and 2 days off, so, 21 days / 5 days = 4 (5 day cycles), 4 (5 day cycles) * 2 days off = 8 days off, therefore, the entire kit probably lasted you 29 days (21 days of coverage + 8 days off) approx. 1 month.

So far so good. So you are syaing that you basically discarded the sterile water from the kit? Ok, where did you obtain bacteriosttic water from?

SAF

 

[1Banshee]

Yep, each lasted about a month. As for the BA water, I was lucky I went to my doctor and told him the truth, believe it or not. I told him I what I was planning on using and that I needed bacteriostatic water to extend the life of the GH. I know, I know stupid, but I figured it was worth a shot, and to my suprise he prescribed it with 7 refills. I was just damn lucky I have a "understanding" doctor. He did say he would not prescribe the GH I was on my own for that one though.
Due the fact BA water is injectable it is prescribed, as stupid as that may be. I believe it is over the counter in Canada, and of course Mexico. Additionally some sources can provide it. Or of course you can go my route and try your doctor.
If you can't find the water it can be made. I know some bros who use the water that came with the kit, reconstitute and store in the refigerator for the 72hours it takes to inject the entire bottle. There has been alot of debate about how fast the GH actually degrades in the provided sterile water, some believe it will last as long as 4 days. The manufacture, as you can tell from the insert says to use the whole bottle within 24 hours.

 

[SAF]

Ok bro, one last question. How long did you use GH, and, what type of beneficial results did you experience?

thanks again,

SAF

 

[1Banshee]

My last cycle of GH was in conjunction with a Test/Deca/Fina AS cycle. The GH part of the cycle lasted 14 weeks. I have done Test/Deca/Fina cycles in the past without GH. The results with GH were outstanding!! The resulting LBM gains were greater, strength gains were greater, overall quality of physique was much better and BF was down from previous cycles. The overall look of my body at the end was dramatically improved over past cycles!! I was very happy with muscle quality as well as definition. Also, a side benefit seems to be the GH relieved my chronic shoulder pain. Weird with Deca alone there is some relief, but when GH was added the shoulder felt completely normal. I should also note during the cycle I used T3 and tried to manipulate insulin spikes naturally in conjuction with GH injections. Whether this works or not is debatable!!! The best option would be to go with insulin, but I am very leary about it!!

 

[td24]

1banshee, you have mail

 

[M.O.D]

if you cant afford 3 months worth of gh i suggest you wait till you can.....

 

[LewdTenant]

banshee1,

do you add 1ml of bacteriostatic water to the GH to make 18iu's?



bumping this nice thread.

thanks banshee1!!

Lewd

 

[juggernaut69]

Lewd, nice to see you over here!! Glad to see another fitnessboard.com brother over here!!

 

[liquidmuscle]

good info bro's i am SERIOUSLY thinking of using GH but want to make sure i do everything right its too expensive to say "well,,maybe next time i can do it this way?" wrong too much of a investment to just piss it away

 

[Big Moose]

banshee1,

do you add 1ml of bacteriostatic water to the GH to make 18iu

Lewd

In the 6mg 126iu kits, 1 ml of bac water added to each individual vial will make 18iu. (in each ind. vial)

 

[tury]

WATER DOES NOT CHANGE THE IU'S

The amount of water you inject in the bottle does not change the Total IU's in the bottle the amount of water injected only changesthe concentration of the GH(iu/ml) that is all you have to do very simple math to find out how many units or 10ths or 100ths of 1ml you have to inject to get the dosage you want (iu's)

 

[george.jr.]

I read a post at another board, where a bro was recommending a shot pre workout at 6am, a shot of insulin post workout, and another shot of gh after the insulin shot. He recommended 3 to 6iu a day.

 

[jc21]

In the 6mg 126iu kits, 1 ml of bac water added to each individual vial will make 18iu. (in each ind. vial)

now while this is true it also makes very confusing to withdrawl the right amount of gh. what i do is add .9 mL of water to the vial. that way the 1 iu mark on the syringe equals 2 iu's of gh and so on until u get to the 9 mark which equals 18iu's. makes it a lot easier to measure out that way.

 

[LewdTenant]

I believe the way to make bacteriostatic water is to use 99ml of distilled water. add 1ml of Benzyl alcohol and pass it through a sterile .22um PVDF syringe filter into a sterile vial.

1ml of Benzyl alcohol/99ml of distilled water

Lewd

what's up Jugg!

 

[hockey1]

best info yet

I just started my G.H. AS cycle and i kinda knew this but seeing it again made me feel real good,great info fellas!!