Second cycle thoughts

[Johnny698]

So I have 1 cycle under my belt which consisted of sustanon 500mg per week 1-10 and winstrol 50 mg Ed week 6-10
I had awesome gains and am planning out my next cycle I was thinking test e 300mg/2x week and I wanted to run tren a but I'm not sure how long to run it and what weeks , dose I was going to do 75 mg eod any thoughts or suggestions I am 23 213lb 15% bf also with test e I should have armidex on hand

 

[gymjunkie09]

save the tren for your 3rd or 4th cycle, but if you insist be sure to have some prami and n2guard to run with it...75 eod is a good place to start but I prefer ed injects with tren ace because I believe it will keep your blood levels more stable=less sides

 

[TheRippedReverend]

So I have 1 cycle under my belt which consisted of sustanon 500mg per week 1-10 and winstrol 50 mg Ed week 6-10
I had awesome gains and am planning out my next cycle I was thinking test e 300mg/2x week and I wanted to run tren a but I'm not sure how long to run it and what weeks , dose I was going to do 75 mg eod any thoughts or suggestions I am 23 213lb 15% bf also with test e I should have armidex on hand

75 eod too much imo first cyc w tren

600mg no need

Ur just burning ur receptors!

500 test with 40 ed var save da tren or
500test and 200-300 tren ah week
What ester is the tren?

 

[BigPatTate]

Just stick to 500mg of test for this one and maybe kick start weeks 1-4 with some dbol. No need to add other compounds yet. Though saying that my friends just doing his second cycle and he's doing test 600mg, EG and starting on dbol. He has grown 10lbs in his first 4 weeks!

 

[gymjunkie09]

75 eod too much imo first cyc w tren

600mg no need

Ur just burning ur receptors!

500 test with 40 ed var save da tren or
500test and 200-300 tren ah week
What ester is the tren?

75mg eod of tren is 200-300mg/week

 

[TheSVPdeal]

I like the idea of test and beast for you bro

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[BigPatTate]

I like the idea of test and beast for you bro

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Beast not a good idea for him!

 

[Johnny698]

Ye tren is not a must , that was my second option doing dbol to kickstrt it but should I run var at the end or no

 

[dylangemelli]

what exactly are your goals for this cycle... personally im not going to run a cycle that has dbol and anavar both in it... kind of counterproductive there...

 

[gymjunkie09]

what exactly are your goals for this cycle... personally im not going to run a cycle that has dbol and anavar both in it... kind of counterproductive there...

I think using dbol to kick with and var at the back end would make for a nice recomp

 

[Youngncurious]

I think using dbol to kick with and var at the back end would make for a nice recomp

I never liked the idea of dbol and var together either but that idea doesn't sound bad..

 

[gymjunkie09]

I never liked the idea of dbol and var together either but that idea doesn't sound bad..

its all about how you manipulate your diet/training, with some test and a dht this would be a nasty stack

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Beast not a good idea for him!

Why would you say that Dbol is a better kick start than beast?

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[TheRippedReverend]

what exactly are your goals for this cycle... personally im not going to run a cycle that has dbol and anavar both in it... kind of counterproductive there...

Lol my thoughts

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I think using dbol to kick with and var at the back end would make for a nice recomp

Ummmm... Interesting it might never ran the two together but any aas can be a cutter depending how u use it and diet

 

[gymjunkie09]

Ummmm... Interesting it might never ran the two together but any aas can be a cutter depending how u use it and diet

I dont think running them together would be the a good idea since the water retention from the dbol would counteract the vascularity of the anavar, but I think if you were lean to start put them together with the right compounds for a lean bulk it would be very effective...
maybe something like this,

Sust 500mg/week 1-14
EQ 600mg/week 1-14
Mast E 500mg/week 1-14
Dbol 30mg/ed 1-4
Proviron 50mg/ed 1-4
Var 60mg/ed 10-16

with proper diet and training this ^^^^ would turn you into a freak

 

[gymjunkie09]

I dont think running them together would be the a good idea since the water retention from the dbol would counteract the vascularity of the anavar, but I think if you were lean to start put them together with the right compounds for a lean bulk it would be very effective...
maybe something like this,

Sust 500mg/week 1-14
EQ 600mg/week 1-14
Mast E 500mg/week 1-14
Dbol 30mg/ed 1-4
Proviron 50mg/ed 1-4
Var 60mg/ed 10-16

with proper diet and training this ^^^^ would turn you into a freak

matter of fact I may run this for my next cycle lol

 

[RickRock13]

I dont think running them together would be the a good idea since the water retention from the dbol would counteract the vascularity of the anavar, but I think if you were lean to start put them together with the right compounds for a lean bulk it would be very effective...
maybe something like this,

Sust 500mg/week 1-14
EQ 600mg/week 1-14
Mast E 500mg/week 1-14
Dbol 30mg/ed 1-4
Proviron 50mg/ed 1-4
Var 60mg/ed 10-16

with proper diet and training this ^^^^ would turn you into a freak

That would be a damn good cycle with good diet and training. Very nice!!

 

[BigPatTate]

Why would you say that Dbol is a better kick start than beast?

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Dbol to kick the cycle off I would say, that will be enough defiantly mate.
Maybe pm a moderator about it.

 

[strentrainin]

I will be throwng in Dbol to kickstart my next "cut" cycle. With proper diet and support supps, i think it'll give more to work with and harden up later in the cycle.
This will my next:
1-4 Dbol @ 25mg
1-12 Test E @ 500
1-12 Mast E @ 400
6-12 Anavar @ 60-80

 

[gymjunkie09]

I will be throwng in Dbol to kickstart my next "cut" cycle. With proper diet and support supps, i think it'll give more to work with and harden up later in the cycle.
This will my next:
1-4 Dbol @ 25mg
1-12 Test E @ 500
1-12 Mast E @ 400
6-12 Anavar @ 60-80

looks good, jsut run the var 8-14 and bump the mast to 500mg/week

 

[Johnny698]

my goals are to gain some more size but cut up a bit that is why i wanted to use tren. Also all the research iv done tren kinda fits what my goals are with the test e , but if you guys dont think i should then i probably shouldnt, but i also know people who have done tren their first and second cycle and love it.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I dont think running them together would be the a good idea since the water retention from the dbol would counteract the vascularity of the anavar, but I think if you were lean to start put them together with the right compounds for a lean bulk it would be very effective...
maybe something like this,

Sust 500mg/week 1-14
EQ 600mg/week 1-14
Mast E 500mg/week 1-14
Dbol 30mg/ed 1-4
Proviron 50mg/ed 1-4
Var 60mg/ed 10-16

with proper diet and training this ^^^^ would turn you into a freak

Yea, that would be killer just so many dang compounds. Id prob drop dbol to 10mg but thats me.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

my goals are to gain some more size but cut up a bit that is why i wanted to use tren. Also all the research iv done tren kinda fits what my goals are with the test e , but if you guys dont think i should then i probably shouldnt, but i also know people who have done tren their first and second cycle and love it.

Bro everybody loves tren other ppl love to hate it!

Its not for first cycle. Jus as simple as that.

You got alot of time to play save it its not like u can never run it. You nedd to see how your body is going to react to aas.

 

[Johnny698]

my goals are to gain lean muscle

 

[RADAR]

my goals are to gain lean muscle

Gain it on EQ or primo just not Tren at this time.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Dbol to kick the cycle off I would say, that will be enough defiantly mate.
Maybe pm a moderator about it.

LOL! Beast is a much better kick start. Fast acting as fuck, big strength increases with size and it's DRY!

Good shit, son.


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[Johnny698]

Gain it on EQ or primo just not Tren at this time.

Doesn't eq make you hungry and then test e and primo?