Second cycle advice

[Elite test]

Hey everyone, this is my first post so be nice, I am coming to the end of my first cycle of 12 weeks test c 500mg e5d and was planning my second cycle, I want to achieve good growth but not be a bloat lord at the same time. I will be doing 12 weeks of test e at 750mg per week with a 4 week 30mg ed dbol kickstart. What would be the best compound to stack with the test to achieve lean sustainable growth. Tren e, Masteron, Eq or Deca? Any other suggestion please feel free to share I am open to any good advice. Thank you

Stats are, 21yrs old, 6ft tall, 255lbs/115kg, 8-10% bf

 

[jester72]

Hey everyone, this is my first post so be nice, I am coming to the end of my first cycle of 12 weeks test c 500mg e5d and was planning my second cycle, I want to achieve good growth but not be a bloat lord at the same time. I will be doing 12 weeks of test e at 750mg per week with a 4 week 30mg ed dbol kickstart. What would be the best compound to stack with the test to achieve lean sustainable growth. Tren e, Masteron, Eq or Deca? Any other suggestion please feel free to share I am open to any good advice. Thank you

Stats are, 21yrs old, 6ft tall, 255lbs/115kg, 8-10% bf

First off, 6' 255lbs and 8%-10% BF? Post up pics, because I have a feeling you're way off. These are competition caliber numbers, and if true, you're a genetic freak!

If this is your 2nd cycle, stick with 500mg/week of test, and a 4 week oral kick start. I honestly see no reason to go over 500mg/week of Test yet.
Dbol is a "wet" compound, so there will be water retention and some estrogen conversion. I'd recommend Tbol or Anavar as a kick start, or skip the kicker and finish 4 weeks with Winstrol.

 

[bonacris]

Those are true freak stats. but I need pictures if im gonna believe it

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[Mr. Chicago]

Yeahhh I'm gonna have to agree with the fellas, but I have a feeling no pics are coming. Also, you're coming to the end of your first and you're already worried about your second? I'm guessing you have no PCT in order and are just gonna jump right into your second cycle?

 

[Elite test]

I know the stats are a bit unusual but you will have to trust me on it, I'm not a big fan of putting pics on the net either, hope y'all understand. I have a full pct protocol set out of clomid, nolva and hcg I am also doing a taper at the end. I will wait 12-15 weeks till starting next run but I like to be well prepared and should I need to source more uncommon compounds id like to have the time to find them. I am fairly well educated in this topic so please don't assume ignorance I just lack the practical application of these compounds and so was looking for advice, if we can look past the stats and offer some advice it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

It's only your second cycle and you've obviously come this far mostly naturally so just keep the cycle the way you have it, there's no need to add another compound at this time, the upped test dose and dbol is perfect for 2nd go.

 

[Elite test]

Ok thanks, The way this current cycle has gone is as follows.
Week 1-3 test c 250mg e5d
Week 3-10 test c 500mg e5d
Week 10-12 test c 250mg e5d

Will 750mg e7d be a sufficient increase to see better gains or would you guys suggest to keep it about 600 e7d? I started the cycle at about 230lbs at 13-14% and am currently at 255lbs about 10%ish, just guessing here. I have 4 weeks left, gains have been good, slow and steady and no real sides to speak of apart from a very slight increase in shoulder acne and mild water retention..

 

[Mr. Chicago]

I would say 600-700 week would be perfect and you could even extend it to 14 weeks, tapering down like you did this cycle weeks 12-14.

 

[Essie]

tapering makes no real sense, as you are shut down and gradually introducing less and less test to teh end of your cycle is not going to make any REAL difference in your recovery.

Try this for a reasonably lean cycle, depending on your diet:

Week 1-4: DBol @ 40mg/day Mon-Fri
Week 1-16: Test C @ 500mg/wk injections split between Mo & Thu
Week 1-16: EQ @ 600mg/wk injected with your Test weekly

Then you need to research a bit on this site as far as PCT is concerned ... I need to have you search for SOMETHING on here ...hahahahaha ... and PCT is a good and VERY important thing to research and learn about.

Try to stay away fro Deca for now ... too many complications, which are preventable, but at a steep cost. If you are indeed at 8-10% BF, then adding in Masteron would make you LOOK really good. Mast prop for 8 weeks at 150mg EOD will add a nice hardness to your physique, but you HAVE to be at 10% or lower BF, otherwise you won't notice a much when running it.

Now, as for those stats ... please post a picture of just your body, you can cut the face ... but 115kg with 8-10% bodyfat ... SWEET JESUS! I don't personally know anybody (and I know lots of people) who can obtain that body without ever touching steroids. I know many guys who are taller and/or heavier than you ... but NOT with that low %BF ... you will have to be one of the luckiest buggers alive!

 

[Elite test]

After posting my original question I have decided not to run any 'shut down' compounds just yet to preserve my future testicular integrity. I have decided on this. (Also I may have underestimated my bf%, 10-12ish% may be more accurate, sorry for the confusion)

Week 1-12 750mg test e
Week 1-4 150mg test prop eod
Week 6-12 50mg Winstrol ed
Week 12-14 150mg test prop eod

After doing some extensive research on this forum on PCT I have concluded that my original PCT protocol was outdated and messy. My new PCT protocol for current and future cycles will be as follows

Week 1-4 HCGenerate
Week 1-4 Forma Stanzol
Week 1-4 50mg nolva e3d or as needed
Week 1-4 DAA ed

I will also be using Erase, DAA and Unleashed for my time off cycle.