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**Scammer** He uses Mustang as a ref.....

emptywallet

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***This guys name is [email protected]. I got him by emailing [email protected] instead of emailing [email protected]. It was a simple typo on my part and it cost me $400. The real Mustang_18 is really pissed that this guy uses him as a ref, which he does. He makes a reference to someone big that supports him in his list and upon further inspection they guy says later that he uses mustang as his only ref. Anyway, the real Mustang_18 got Spellwin to shut down the fake email account (mustang18), and it shows that whoever that is, is from Arizona, which is also where I sent the money. Here is a list of all the emails replies Ive gotten from him. The tracking number he gave me checks up as nothing, nothing at all, even after almost a month, and he doesnt reply to emails anymore***.

Here is his list:

Thank you very much for deleting my e-mails. Shows a lot of respect, and it's
hard to tell who actually does it. I will always send you an updated list, so
there is really no need to save them. Just save my e-mail address somewhere,
and e-mail me if you need a new one.

Anyway, I already have your disclaimer, so no need to do it again obviously. I
will send payment information once you have ordered. Please make ABSOLUTELY
SURE you order everything. I do not like when people put in half orders, then
expect me to screw around a week later on another half order. It's just not
practical, and not smart for either of us.

Thanks bro, here it is:



Please be careful and follow all rules. They are in place to protect me as
well as to protect you. I have been around for over three years, and I know
how to make this all run smoothly.

RULES:

1. After you receive this e-mail, you MUST return an e-mail stating that you
have no affiliation with any Law Enforcement Agency, Postal Service, or any
other Government Agency. Also include your screen name(s) on the boards. (copy
and paste this segment and return)

2. Do not pass my list to ANYONE. If you have someone that may need my service
and you are already a past customer, you personally e-mail me and let me know.

3. Do not talk about my name, e-mail address, or anything else to anyone from
any board or on any board. If you are found doing this, you will be
automatically IP banned from ordering from me and many others.

4. I use one ref, and obviously if you found me, you know this person has a
big name on the line, and is putting his neck out for me. Do not talk about
this person when referring to me.

5. Erase all e-mails from me. If you need to save one for any reason, cut and
paste the contents into Notepad or some word processor and save it that way.

6. Bulk prices are available upon request.

7. Follow ordering instructions meticulously.


ORDERING INSTRUCTIONS:

NEW: USE THE CODES TO THE LEFT OF THE PRODUCT WHEN E-MAILING ME YOUR ORDER!

This improves safety, and in the light of the recent events, I believe this
will be in all our best interests.

1. When you're ready to order, e-mail me with the subject line 'Order'.
This e-mail will include items, amounts, shipping/return address. Make
sure to print the address(s) correctly because I copy and paste the addy to
make sure there are no errors. I will then e-mail you the payment info.

2. When I have received your funds I will e-mail you for confirmation.

3. There is a new $200.00 minimum and I do NOT waiver this for any reason.

4. If I see you post my name on any board, or any thing close to my name
(as in M#$%^&#*r), you're done.

5. Add $15.00 to every order to cover shipping.

6. I ship only US Priority confirmation mail (requires no signature) and
all injectables are placed in a zip lock bag for YOUR safety! I understand
that the customers safety is in the hands of the shipper, so I take all
the precautions in keeping you safe and a repeat customer. I am DOMESTIC so
there is no customs involved. We will put in a false return addy on your
package if YOU do not supply us with an alternative address to use as a return
addy!!!

7. I will e-mail you upon receiving the funds and when I ship your goods.
Please send me a confirmation e-mail when you receive goods.


There you have it. I have great communication with every customer. I am very
polite, and you will see this while you are my customer. My prices are cheap
because I send out on average of 40 packages a week. I have never been
pinched, and I attribute this to my carefulness and precision when packaging.
I carry ON HAND all but a few products on my list. That means you get your
goodies in about 7 working days. You cannot beat that!!

Well, happy shopping!!


Updated list............10/18/2001



*****THIS LIST IS JUST A DEMO AND NOT TO BE VIEWED BY ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF
18!!!*****

*****THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THIS LIST IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND
INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS A MEANS FOR ILLEGAL
ACTIVITY*****


******NEW PRODUCTS*******


F9 - PGF2 30cc /Upjohn....................................................$70

G1 - TESTONON (Sustanon) 5cc X 250mg /Ttokkyo.............................$40

G2 - OXANDROLONE (Anavar) 100 tabs X 10mg /Bratis Labs....................$275

G3 - LIQUIDEX!! 20ml vial X 4mg/ml........................................$220

G4 - Denkall D-Bol 96 tabs X 10mg.........................................$115

G5 - Stenox (Halo) 20 tabs X 2.5mg........................................$16

G7 - PRE-MADE Fina kits!! 75mg/ml X 24ml..................................$140
75mg/ml X 49ml..................................$205



*********ON SALE*************


D5 - BOLDENON (Eq) 200mg X 10 ml /Ttokkyo...............................2/$140

B7 - NAPOSIM (D-bol) 1000 tabs X 5mg /Romania.............................$325

D9 - STANOL V (Winny) 10mg X 100 tabs /Ttokkyo............................$115

E2 - Trenbol 75 (Trenbolone Acetate) 75mg/ml X 20ml /Ttokkyo .............$205

G3 - LIQUIDEX 20ml vial X 4mg/ml..........................................$200



*********INJECTABLES***********



A1 - SUSTANON 250 1amp X 250mg /Organon...................................$12

A2 - SUSTARETARD 1 amp X 250mg /BM Pharmaceuticals........................$11

A3 - OMNADREN (Sustanon) 1 amp X 250mg /JELFA.............................$9

A4 - TESTOVIRON DEPOT 1 amp X 250mg /Schering.............................$11

A5 - DECA-DURABOLIN 1amp X 100mg /Organon................................ $11

A6 - DECA-DURABOLIN (syringe & needle) 50mg /Organon.....................$10

A7 - DECA-DURABOLIN 200mg X 2ml /Norma(Greece)............................$14

A8 - DURABOLIN (Nandrolone Phenylprop) 10 amp X 25mg......................$70

A9 - PRIMOBOLAN DEPOT 1 amp X 100mg /Schering.............................$12

B1 - AQUAVIRON (Test Susp) 12 amp X 25mg /Nicholas Piramal................$65

B2 - ULTRAGAN 50 (eq) 50mg X 50ml /Denkall................................$115

B3 - ULTRAGEN 100 (eq) 100mg X 10ml /Denkall..............................$85

B4 - HCG 5000iu via /BBT Biotech GmbH (Germany)...........................$34





*******ORALS********


B5 - METHANDIENONE (D-bol) 100tabs X 10mg /TTokkyo........................$100

B6 - PRONABOL (D-bol) 100tabs X 5mg /P & B Ltd (India)....................$90

B7 - NAPOSIM (D-bol) 100 tabs X 5mg /Romania..............................$55

B8 - ANABOL (D-bol) 100 tabs X 5mg /British Disp..........................$80

B9 - ANDROLIC (Oxymethelone) 100 tabs X 50mg..............................$235

C1 - ANAPOLON 50 (Anadrol 50) 20 tabs X 50mg /Syntex (Turkey).............$60

C2 - PRIMOBOLAN 100 tabs X 5mg /Schering..................................$115

C3 - HALOTESTIN (Fluoxymesterone) 100tabs X 5mg /Upjohn (US)..............$120

C4 - MESANOLON (Mestanalone)100 tabs X 10mg /Mochida Pharm (Japan)........$170

C5 - ANDROXON-NUVIR (Test Undecanoate) 60 caps X 40mg /Organon............$65

C6 - CLOMID (Clomifene citrate) 30tabs X 50mg /Infar......................$25

C7 - PROVIRON 30 tabs X 25mg .............................................$40

C8 - NOLVADEX (Tamoxifen Citrate)100 tabs X 20mg /Dabur ..................$100

C9 - ARIMIDEX (Anastrazole) 28 tabs X 1mg /Zeneca (Spain)................$255

D1 - ELTROXIN (Thyroid T4) 100 tabs /Glaxo................................$15

D2 - THYROID (T3) 100 tabs X 25mcg
/Cynomel.......................................$30

D3 - CLENBUTEROL 100 tabs X 20mcg /Novegan................................$60





**********MEXICAN VETERINARY PRODUCTS*********



D4 - ARATEST 250 (Test Enanth) 250mg X 10ml /Aranda.......................$65

D5 - BOLDENON (Eq) 200mg X 10 ml /Ttokkyo.................................$80

D6 - CIPIONATO (Test Cyp) 200 mg X 10 ml /Ttokkyo.........................$60

D7 - NANDROLONA (Deca) 300mg X 10ml /Ttokkyo..............................$90

D8 - OXANDROLONA (Anavar) 5 mg X 100 tabs /Ttokkyo........................$185

D9 - STANOL V (Winny) - (Stanazolol) 10mg X 100 tabs /Ttokkyo.............$130

E1 - STANOL V (Winny) - (Stanozolol) injection...100mgX 20ml /Ttokkyo.....$190

E2 - TRENBOL 75 (Trenbolone Acetate) 75 mg X 20ml /Ttokkyo................$240

E3 - EQUIPOISE (Eq) 50mg X 50ml /Ft. Dodge................................$140

E4 - TESTO PRO (Test Prop) 250mg X 10ml /Loefler..........................$45

E5 - TEST 400 (Prop-25mg/Enan-188mg/Cyp-187mg) 400mg X 10ml /Denkall......$90

E6 - REFORVIT B (D-bol) 25mg X 50ml /Loefler..............................$45

E7 - TESTOSTERONA (Test Prop) 100mg X 10 ml /Brovel.......................$25



*********MISC*********



E8 - Vitamin B-12 (CYANOCOBALAMIN) 30ml vial..............................$30

E9 - TRIOXSALEN (Tanning Pills) 40 tabs...................................$25

F1 - PROSCAR (Hairloss) - (Finasteride) 30 tabs X 5mg /CIPLA..............$60





*******PAIN KILLERS*******



F2 - TRAMAL (TRAMADOL HCL) 100 caps X 50mg................................$95

F3 - TRAMADOL 1amp X 50mg.................................................$30

F4 - TEMEGESIC 50 tabs X 0.2mg /Reckitt & Colman.........................$115

F5 - TEMEGESIC (Buprenorphine) 1 amp X 0.2mg..............................$55

F6 - TORBUGESIC SA (Buorphanol) 2mg X 10 ml /Ft. Dodge....................$45

F7 - VALIUM 100 tabs X 10mg /Roche........................................$60

F8 - XANAX 100 tabs X 1.5mg /Restyl.......................................$100





****THIS LIST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURSPOSES ONLY****


Thanks bro, keep it safe!!


**And here is the email that he sent me after I ordered**:

Hey bro,

Your order stands as this:

2 D5 @ $140 - $280

2 C1 @ $60 - $120

Shipping - Free

- - -----------------------

Total - $400


If anything is wrong with this, just let me know. Otherwise, here is the
Western Union information:

My name: Josh Tatum

My location: Phoenix Arizona

Test question: When was I born?

Test answer: 2000 (Please be sure to use the question/answer)


Once money is sent, get back to me with this info:


Name you used with WU

Location you sent from (city/state)

MCT#

Amount sent

Test question/answer (same as above)

Shipping name/address


That's it bro. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this. I make my
rounds to WU around 6pm every night. If there isn't any problems you can see
with this, please try to have Wu in by then. I am Arizona time which is one
hour behind TX I believe.

Thanks,

T



**When he sent me the tracking number**:

hey bro,

I thought I had gotten you your tracking number already. Sorry about that,
here it is:

03001290000101527340

E-mail when it arrives.

Thanks bro,

T


**Another email he sent me after I got a little bit worried**:

Hey bro,

That's the right tracking number. I have about ten that aren't tracking right
now. I have also read on many boards that since in reality the number isn't an
actual tracking number, it's a delivery confirmation number, that they will
not track. It's happened before, so just sit tight. It's on the way.

Thanks,

T

**And the next email he sent after I pestered him after one week**.

Bro,

I hate to be a jerk, but come on - a WEEK? In these times? Please read the
boards, and see what others are saying.

I do not remember when I shipped your order (lately I have been sending out
about 50 packs a week). Just please be assured that your package will come,
and that if something does happen, I take responsibility. The reships have
gone through the roof since 9-11, and because of this I am contemplating
getting out of the business shortly. The same goes with quite a few other
domestic and international boys, so just keep the e-mails to a minimum for now
and just bare with us.


Thanks bro,

T

**Guys, he even threatened to tell Mustang if I didnt respond to his disclaimer. He told me he would tell mustang if i didnt respond to him. I feel like shit man. Thats alot of money to me, and I wouldnt have just thrown it away. You can see where he makes a reference to mustang up there. Mustang_18 can back me no this as weve already talked about it.**
 
rotten piece of S**T - that is someone elses list he stole and what a scam - very sorry to hear it bro :(
 
I am damm sorry to hear you got fucked thinking it was me. Have you got a responce from scammers@elitefitness yet ? I hope we can get this fucker and you can get your money or gear back

M18
 
Its ok man, my mistake. We live and learn. I need to learn to think about what the hell I am doing a learn how to type!!! But anyway, I havent heard back from [email protected], I emailed them around 2 weeks ago.
 
that fucker took word-for-word what someone I know uses. He's done his homework. He needs to be strung up by his nuts and put on display for all to see. Sorry about your loss, but rest assured you're not the only one who's been fucked over by someone. i know its little compensation, but guys i know have lost waaaaaaayyyyy more than that.
 
I'm surprised that a real source would use a system like that. There are a ton of red flags in his messages, though.

"Send me an e-mail saying you aren't a fed" is pointless...the laws regarding entrapment have changed greatly in the last few years. Anyone that uses that doesn't know much about law.

His list is too big for a domestic, I wouldn't trust anyone that has minimum order requirements, and the comments about not splitting cycles....? It's obvious this guy wants to take all your money at once. I'm also skeptical about a domestic using WU.

You should have waited longer than 7 days, though. I bothered a domestic after a couple weeks and pissed him off. You're lucky to get a domestic turn-around of 2 or 3 weeks from what I've experienced so far.
 
Reallly sucks bro, I hope they can get your money back cause I'm pretty sure this guy is not selling anything. Good luck :)
 
he got me too

this fag got me too by using the mustang reference the only difference is he didnt give me all those rules and his email address was [email protected]. same wesern union info
josh tatum in arizona. this fuck is gona get his i promise.
 
Re: he got me too

luisd said:
this fag got me too by using the mustang reference the only difference is he didnt give me all those rules and his email address was [email protected]. same wesern union info
josh tatum in arizona. this fuck is gona get his i promise.

The weird thing is, all of these guys using the mustang18@elitefitness as a ref are out of Arizona, I know the guy using that old account was out of arizona and these 2 scammers are out of the same place. kinda makes you wonder does it not ? It would be interesting to see if there IP's mached if we could get a hold of them. Also, with the first guy I have no idea why he would list me as a ref and say NOT to contact me for any reason, it sounds fishy to me right off the get go.

M18
 
I guess scammers@elitefitness must be really busy. i havent heard back from em in about 2 weeks. Anyone think we can go after this guy in any way?
 
NUKE THE MFER!!

They have bounty hunters for guys that jump bail. I wonder if it is time to have a scammer hunter oranization? Sounds like fun and possibly make a little cash!!! But most of all getting back what was stolen and then pounding the livin shit out of the guy and for a bonus if his girl is good looking..........
 
I've always wondered why the fake Mustang18 address can't be deleted from the system. I figured it'd be possible since the elitefitness email addresses seem like they'd be controlled by elitefitness, and thus able to be deleted if necessary.
 
EngiCream said:
I've always wondered why the fake Mustang18 address can't be deleted from the system. I figured it'd be possible since the elitefitness email addresses seem like they'd be controlled by elitefitness, and thus able to be deleted if necessary.

Thanks to George and his staff that account and any other account close to mine or any mods has been deleted

M18
 
Bummer Empty...I told you it was fishy. I think this is the same person who tried to play off another source on the Anabolics board too. They e-mail real sources and use their lists to look legit.

Same scam...different names....
 
Someone on the boards lives in phoenix. :)


If anyone can get any of these guy's IP addresses or any info I'd be glad to check things out.
 
Much appreciated fellahs. I'm still waitin on a reply from scammers@elitefitness though. Mustang, is there anyway you can see if they have anything for me? Or if they know anything?
 
EmptyWallet said:
Much appreciated fellahs. I'm still waitin on a reply from scammers@elitefitness though. Mustang, is there anyway you can see if they have anything for me? Or if they know anything?

I can't really do anything right now, hopefully they will be able to get to your e-mail soon and see whats up. Make sure you have all this fuckers e-mail as we can use every bit of it. I am sure some Arizona bro's would not mind paying these guys a visit. I am going to shoot off a couple e-mails tonight to these fuckers and see what I can get out of em, if anything :mad:

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


I can't really do anything right now, hopefully they will be able to get to your e-mail soon and see whats up. Make sure you have all this fuckers e-mail as we can use every bit of it. I am sure some Arizona bro's would not mind paying these guys a visit. I am going to shoot off a couple e-mails tonight to these fuckers and see what I can get out of em, if anything :mad:

M18

I have a pretty good idea I think. I'll pm you in a bit.
 
Bro..I'm real sorry to hear that, that same guy almost got me and then I realized that I made a mistake on M18's addy and then I got in touch with The Real M18....well it's a long story... but M18 pointed me in the right direction and told me not to trust this fucker, but unfortunately I couldn't say he was a scammer at that time because I did not know much about him...He was still sending "his list" until I told him that I talked to the real M18 and that he had never heard of him...again man sorry that this had to happen to ya.:( :mad: :( :mad:
 
Here's another email I got recently also,

I wrote this:

"The mail doesnt take that long, and Ive gotten packages from florida in the past few days that only took three days. So, it looks like you fucked me. I still have all of your WU info here, but not really sure what to do with it. Ive spoken to Mustang and he says he's never heard of you and wants to find out why your using him as a ref. I dunno what to think anymore. I know when you send a package though, the place you send it from scans it, an accepts it,and it shows it on the website, so I guess I should have known. I would just like to know if you fucked me, thats all. "




He wrote me back with this:

"Bro, quit fucking e-mailing me with this shit! First of all, how fucking long
has it been? A week??? Get real.....go read the fucking boards and see how
long people are waiting on domestic packages.

E-mail me when your shit arrives, and in the meantime, just chill the fuck
out.

T

PS - Who the hell sent you to me anyway?

PSS - It isn't often you will see me swear, so just let it be known that I am
not happy with how you are handling this. If you e-mail me with this bullshit
again, I will not respond anymore no matter what happens. PERIOD"

**Keep in mind this was when three weeks had passed, and he asks who sent me to him? When he says he only has one ref? Changing up his story............
 
thats funny empty. he just sent me an email telling me that he's not gonna resend now because i brioke his rules, but he is not a scammer. i then mentioned to him haw im seeing his info listed as a scammer on the boards and i pointed out his other email [email protected], i asked him if any of that was familar to him. funny i get no response anymore?
 
Re: Re: he got me too

Sorry to hear you guys got fucked by an Arizonian. Thanks for posting this as a heads up for the future when typing a mods name in an email. I don't know much about IP addresses, but can't you track that to show where they live? Or is that not possible? I'm sure that myself and other Phoenix guys would love to kick the shit out of this guy for everyone who lost money to him.
 
The only thing worse than a piece of shit scammer is someone who tries to ruin a good bro's rep by using his handle as a reference! We need to bring these fuckers down!
 
I feel you bro on that one. He probably contacted you first. I know how that is. Once I had a scammer by the name anasupply from Canada who e-mailed me a list and told me everything I wanted to hear but I saw his e-mail address on the scammer list and told him he could go fuck himself! Hope everything works out for you!

Stay Hungry
 
swoldier said:
I feel you bro on that one. He probably contacted you first. I know how that is. Once I had a scammer by the name anasupply from Canada who e-mailed me a list and told me everything I wanted to hear but I saw his e-mail address on the scammer list and told him he could go fuck himself! Hope everything works out for you!

Stay Hungry

Read my first post in this thread. He didnt contact me first. I was stupid enough to make a typo and email the wrong guy, but I'm not THAT stupid to just use guys who email me.
 
luisd said:
thats funny empty. he just sent me an email telling me that he's not gonna resend now because i brioke his rules, but he is not a scammer. i then mentioned to him haw im seeing his info listed as a scammer on the boards and i pointed out his other email [email protected], i asked him if any of that was familar to him. funny i get no response anymore?

I think if myself and a couple other mods e-mail him he may change his mind....I don't think he wants to deal with all of us and if he was legit to start with then this can't be good for his buiss so I suggest he try to make things right

M18
 
M18, you are a good man my friend. I hope you can get this worked out for Empty Wallet.....keep us posted
 
I really appreciate everyone's support here. I hope everything does work out for me. I hope the mods get together and email this guy. Im getting emails from quite a few people who have been shafted buy this guy before. Mustang you got a pm from me.
 
EW, you have a responce. Notify Huck or Stew ASAP on this because I think they would like to know whats up with this new development

M18
 
flickenu said:
new development? anything that would help me out mustang?

No not really bro, it seems as if someone is saying a couple reputable mods gave him this guys addy which I find hard to belive so we will find out soon if it is true or not

M18
 
Yeah, the guy said it was one of the two mods that i listed two you , I cant remember which one. I am also Highly doubtful that those mods I mentioned to you gave that guy the addy, he does say that they are the only two that he has emailed since he has been on the board. My money is on that the scammer was able to get close to their emails and somehow got this guy too. Oh well, Im with you bro, I dont want to see your name get dragged through the mud either, that WILL NOT happen. Guys, I really think we should be greatful that mustang is here. I'm glad of the help he has given me as well as the board. I wont email em tonight stang, sometime in the morning, Im tired as hell and havent gotten my 8 hours in the past few days. Night fellahs.
 
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well i havent heard from this littlescammer since i called him on it, he is acting like its my fault he scammed me. he says i bieng a crybabie, so he wont help me? come on the guy has scammed a bunch of people and i send him an email telling him what i think of scammers and he calls me a cry baby? my guess is none of us get anything from this guy, he's just trying to buy time. but thats just my opinion.
 
Guys this fucker got me and another bud. I've held off on posting just in case this guy was reading the board and I wanted him to get my emails but now I've given up on him opening them. I have already emailed many of you about my situation. Yes he did use a mod but I'm pretty sure he changed the email addy slightly on this one (just like he did with mustang). When I get exactly what he used from my bud I will get it out so no one else gets screwed. Keep me posted.
 
bump

E2 - Trenbol 75 (Trenbolone Acetate) 75mg/ml X 20ml /Ttokkyo .............$205


Just that Trenbol indicated me his a scammer

it is mor expensive than that in mexican vet.


sorry
 
hey man its ok. I guess we all live and learn. I recieved lots of emails from guys about this arizona boy and it seems like the heat is coming down. Any updates stang?
 
EmptyWallet said:
hey man its ok. I guess we all live and learn. I recieved lots of emails from guys about this arizona boy and it seems like the heat is coming down. Any updates stang?

Not yet bro...By bro Flick is working on something so lets see if it all pans out. I will let you know if I get anything new

M18
 
Really? I really appreciate your help, as a matter of fact, I really appreciate everyone's support on this. :praying that flick finds something:
 
this looks like a never ending deal. I hope someone gets this guy soon. I could really use the money now. Just got in a wreck in all this thanksgiving day sale traffic.
 
i feel for you bro, i got lucky he only got me for 250 bucks, but it still hurts. im sure he gonna get his.
 
Go get his ass flick. Anything I can do to help get my money and the rest of the good bros money back just tell me. Keep me posted. I feel for you EW. IG i was the one he got for $380 not $300 (every penny counts with this fucker)

quad
 
Sorry to see this, MI18. I guess it goes with the territory of being a mod on such a big board.

Seems a lot of people use mods in their unsolicited emails as "references." Bad idea for two reasons: Unsolicited emails suck, and it strongly suggests that the mod is a source himself. Not safe all around.

Dexter
 
This is the plan..All of the arizonians get together and form a vigilante squad, then go to his house and kick in his door. Beat his fucking ass. If he is obviosuly not sending his "50 packages" a week then it will be the motherlode of gear. Take him for all of the gear/money he has and send his supply to the people who got fucked.
 
Whoops

O'Stanozol said:
bump

E2 - Trenbol 75 (Trenbolone Acetate) 75mg/ml X 20ml /Ttokkyo .............$205


Just that Trenbol indicated me his a scammer

it is mor expensive than that in mexican vet.


sorry

Don't know about that, but I got 2 bottles of the stuff for $175 when it first hit, From a HIGHLY reputable source. Then again he has the best prices on almost everything anyway. Too bad he had a few set backs a few months ago. Maybe, you know who I am talking about? Great guy, who is finally catching up on his misfortunate setbacks. DDRMAN
 
sorry

sorry about your loss. if anything, you've helped alot of people with some damn good advise and a harsh learning lesson.
 
bump
 
The motherfucker is using the word for word, wording of a real good guy, that pisses me off more than him just being a scammer.:mad:
 
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