Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Ok by our standards he is not jacked, but for an older man in his mid 50s that build is slamming. So is that all camera trickery, a ton of make-up or a body double. Or did Arnold jump back on a mild cycle. I think he would be crazy to use too much sauce with his current health. What do you think maybe GH therapy through his doctor?
Saw preview T3 is Arnold really that jacked?
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c3bodybuilding
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No, it's not camera tricks. I saw an on the set interview with Extra or entertainment tonight, I can't remember which. He was HUGE again. At least 230, with low bodyfat. You see the veins in his arms. Also, there is a T3 magazine in book stores, he has his bicep sorta flexed in one pic, and it's still big. Unless Extra does live interview cgi, then he got into shape.
I would say in the latest t3 trailer he is about 225lbs, maybe 8-9%. I took some pics from it, and I am amazed. I compared them to T2 pics, and he is slightly bigger than he was in T2. He is a good middle ground between the T1 and T2 condition.
He said that the director wanted him to gain wait for the nude arrival scene, and he started training 6 days a week, twice a day again with the 'guys' (don't know if he means franco, or friends, or what). He promised he would get into the same shape he was in for parts 1 and 2. This was written last year. I didn't think he would be able to deliver, given his age, but I was proven wrong, big time.
I would say in the latest t3 trailer he is about 225lbs, maybe 8-9%. I took some pics from it, and I am amazed. I compared them to T2 pics, and he is slightly bigger than he was in T2. He is a good middle ground between the T1 and T2 condition.
He said that the director wanted him to gain wait for the nude arrival scene, and he started training 6 days a week, twice a day again with the 'guys' (don't know if he means franco, or friends, or what). He promised he would get into the same shape he was in for parts 1 and 2. This was written last year. I didn't think he would be able to deliver, given his age, but I was proven wrong, big time.
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As for not jacked by our standards, he sure is by mine. I'd be willing to bet he is built better than 99% of the people on this board! He may not be in his Olympia shape, but he is in his 80's movie shape, and that should be 'jacked' by anybodies standards.
Mandinka2
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Arnold used a shitload of drugs , as anyone would have to to grow on his training regime. He's also the kind of guy who gives a shit about htis health , he's into living with the time he's got, I see him here at the beer festivals every October. So I bet he'S back on the sauce big-time.
LftHndPwrHouse
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DTOX said:
No he isnt talking out of his ass. He may not have be on sauce now. But with everything that man took back in the day, he will always have a frame. Why do you think the had a degenorit heart valve. Notice they never said what caused it. Could it be the dozens of cycles he has done back in the day...HMMM
You guys are forgeting one very important think Genes. That man could have some of the best genes out there. Even while bulking for Mr. Olimpia in the off season he was never even close to being Fat. That man was always cut up.
I saw an interview with him where the director needed him to put on like 25 lbs of muscle for some movie, and Arnold was like ... "OK no problem". He has that much control over his body.
You have to remember that Arnold is in the Guiness book of world records for having the best human physique in the world for 8 years. The guy knows what he is doing. I am sure that his body will respond well to the training, especially since he probably has not juiced in a loooong while. Its probably a great feeling for him to have test pumping through his body, getting back in shape and working out with his old gym buddies.
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You have to remember that Arnold is in the Guiness book of world records for having the best human physique in the world for 8 years. The guy knows what he is doing. I am sure that his body will respond well to the training, especially since he probably has not juiced in a loooong while. Its probably a great feeling for him to have test pumping through his body, getting back in shape and working out with his old gym buddies.
Mavy
Everybody's guesssing.
So I'll guess too.
At this point, Arnies most probably on HRT and GH. In order to get into top condition he'd need to go back to his drug of choice in the 60's -- Primoboln. With Arnolds muscle memory, if he did 600 mgs of Primo, upped the HRT a couple of hundred mgs, and added a little var, and trained his ass off, I can see him looking pretty impressive, even at age 56 or so. And it would be pretty safe.
I'm also sure, they'll light him well, and edit any shots where he looks soft, his belly hangs or his skin looks wrinkled.
All in all, I give the big guy major props. I wonder what Ronnie Coleman is going to look like at age 56.
So I'll guess too.
At this point, Arnies most probably on HRT and GH. In order to get into top condition he'd need to go back to his drug of choice in the 60's -- Primoboln. With Arnolds muscle memory, if he did 600 mgs of Primo, upped the HRT a couple of hundred mgs, and added a little var, and trained his ass off, I can see him looking pretty impressive, even at age 56 or so. And it would be pretty safe.
I'm also sure, they'll light him well, and edit any shots where he looks soft, his belly hangs or his skin looks wrinkled.
All in all, I give the big guy major props. I wonder what Ronnie Coleman is going to look like at age 56.
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Nelson Montana said:
I doubt Ronnie will make it to 56
LftHndPwrHouse
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MrMakaveli said:
DOH!!
DeepZenPill
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Just like Nelson said, you gotta remember the man's probably on HRT with test and GH like the rest of the hollywood actors. He probably raised his dose, and I really doubt he would have needed to add very many other substances to get to where he is now. If you consider how low his doses were in his prime, I really doubt he needs all that much to get big. He has incredible genetics which he takes advantage of.
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Nelson Montana said:
No joke, Nelson, i've actually seen make-up draw muscles on guys. They can draw and shade so well that standing 3 feet away from a guy you can barely tell with the naked eye that they aren't real muscles. Take a guy like Arnol who already has a good foundation... and give a make-up artist a morning to draw... and you can have Arnold back to his glory days in 3-4 hours.
............................SofaGeorge said:
Oh sure. I've done some acting so I know it's common to add shadow to abs to make them appear more muscular. They can use pancake to hide droopy pecs .They can even paint on veins. (Hmmm, vein tattoos -- not a bad idea). But you can't use make up to make somebody bigger or shapelier, and Arnolds pretty big and pretty shapely.
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doesnt matter - the dude looks amazing - full credit to him - he even hinted there will another Terminator film "there's lots of life in me yet" quote the big fella
doesnt matter - the dude looks amazing - full credit to him - he even hinted there will another Terminator film "there's lots of life in me yet" quote the big fella
c3bodybuilding
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Oh sure. I've done some acting so I know it's common to add shadow to abs to make them appear more muscular. They can use pancake to hide droopy pecs .They can even paint on veins. (Hmmm, vein tattoos -- not a bad idea). But you can't use make up to make somebody bigger or shapelier, and Arnolds pretty big and pretty shapely.>>>>
Amen. I've seen 'make up' jobs done, and mostly it helps create an illusion of 'fitness' (being in shape, cut etc). I've never seen make up able to make someone look like what Arnold looks like now for T3. As I stated earlier, I saw a live interview with one of those entertainment shows, and while he was wearing a t-shirt, you could see the huge pecs, shoulders, and of course the arms were showing. The waist looked tight, and trim. He had viens in his biceps and forearms. Unless those shows started doing live on the air cgi, then it's for real, Arnold is back.
I caught some screen captures with my webcam from the trailer. If anyone wants to see them, I'll email them. Since I used a webcam the lighting is POOR, and the pics are lousy quality, but you can see that he looks incredible again. I actually capared them to pics from T2, and he looks BETTER than he did in that one. Slightly bigger, and more defined.
I don't know why so many people are in disbelief. Arnold was in great shape right up until the heart surgery. He wasn't making movies for a couple years, and people sorta forgot about him. He came back, but not like his old shape. I think he sorta didn't realize he had lost so much size. But the director of T3 told him he needed to gain some muscle to look like he did in the previous terminators. Arnold said he started doing his old 6 day a week double split. He said, "it was like training for another Olympia."
You have to remember, Arnold has incredible genetics. Plus he has muscle memory. It's not like we are talking he got into his Olympia shape again, but he DID get into his 80's movie prime shape. And I think thats awesome. Watch out this summer, He'll be BACK.
Amen. I've seen 'make up' jobs done, and mostly it helps create an illusion of 'fitness' (being in shape, cut etc). I've never seen make up able to make someone look like what Arnold looks like now for T3. As I stated earlier, I saw a live interview with one of those entertainment shows, and while he was wearing a t-shirt, you could see the huge pecs, shoulders, and of course the arms were showing. The waist looked tight, and trim. He had viens in his biceps and forearms. Unless those shows started doing live on the air cgi, then it's for real, Arnold is back.
I caught some screen captures with my webcam from the trailer. If anyone wants to see them, I'll email them. Since I used a webcam the lighting is POOR, and the pics are lousy quality, but you can see that he looks incredible again. I actually capared them to pics from T2, and he looks BETTER than he did in that one. Slightly bigger, and more defined.
I don't know why so many people are in disbelief. Arnold was in great shape right up until the heart surgery. He wasn't making movies for a couple years, and people sorta forgot about him. He came back, but not like his old shape. I think he sorta didn't realize he had lost so much size. But the director of T3 told him he needed to gain some muscle to look like he did in the previous terminators. Arnold said he started doing his old 6 day a week double split. He said, "it was like training for another Olympia."
You have to remember, Arnold has incredible genetics. Plus he has muscle memory. It's not like we are talking he got into his Olympia shape again, but he DID get into his 80's movie prime shape. And I think thats awesome. Watch out this summer, He'll be BACK.
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Would anyone care to enlarge the picture for those of us who fall into the "cheap bastard" category?
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Frackal
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I'm sure you'd look better in your 50's after heart surgery SNARF
Post a pic, and we'll compare you to Arnold in his T-3 shape as soon as screen captures are available.
Post a pic, and we'll compare you to Arnold in his T-3 shape as soon as screen captures are available.
Easy Frackal. It is a funny picture and it is amazing that he could get back into the kind of shape he is showing in T3. But for being 56 and having heart surgery he looks average and for being Arnold he looks bad.
Here is a full size image for everyone:
I'll be back!
Here is a full size image for everyone:
I'll be back!
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\LftHndPwrHouse said:
His heart condition was determined to be genetic- not related to steroid use.
Arnold took what would be considered moderate doses even by people on this board.
c3bodybuilding
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Trust me, that pic is not edited. I saw a live on the set interview, thats how he looks. Someone posted pics from that interview on here, maybe they will post them up again. That pic was taken from a nude arrival scene in T3, there is a lightning flash just at that point, that is why the lighting is off.
I don't see why people are hating. I would like to see how many Olympia and Universe titles the people talking shit have.
I don't see why people are hating. I would like to see how many Olympia and Universe titles the people talking shit have.
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It didn't crush my heart. But it does make me wonder why some people are so happy to see a former champion not looking his best. I guess it makes some people feel better about themselves. I've said it once, I'll say it again, How many Olympia titles have you won?
For whatever reason he let himself go ...
No biggie, I am sure he cared what he looked like in the 70's way more than he does now.
Besides, once you have open heart surgery (I believe that's what he had, right?) it would be very hard to lift weights. I know because my dad had it after having a heart attack and he always suffers from chest pains whenever he holds 30-40lbs in his hands.
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No biggie, I am sure he cared what he looked like in the 70's way more than he does now.
Besides, once you have open heart surgery (I believe that's what he had, right?) it would be very hard to lift weights. I know because my dad had it after having a heart attack and he always suffers from chest pains whenever he holds 30-40lbs in his hands.
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here go to this link and watch the trailer it has arn with his shirt off http://www.terminator3.com/ he looks good for his age
I am amazed that so many here have a hard time believing that a man can stay big and ripped in his 50's. I am only 2 years younger than Arnold, and I fuckin promise you I don't need makeup or editing.
What the hell, are you younger fellas planning on turning to shit when you get older? The iron is a lifetime deal if you are a serious person about all this.
What the hell, are you younger fellas planning on turning to shit when you get older? The iron is a lifetime deal if you are a serious person about all this.
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What a bunch of haters.
To IronLion, this picture was no 'crushing' surprise to me, I've seen it 100x before.
It's old news.
What I dont understand is why you diss the guy, when he's in better bodybuilding shape than you are bro
To IronLion, this picture was no 'crushing' surprise to me, I've seen it 100x before.
It's old news.
What I dont understand is why you diss the guy, when he's in better bodybuilding shape than you are bro
Mandinka2
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Read both the unauthorised biography and his own "Education of a Bodybuilder" , in the second one he mentions that he came to America cos they had better equipment and better drugs. He used to scare the living shit outta lots of the old bodybuilders his regimen was so high. And his favourite is well known - primo and dbol. How long are you into this game chum?DTOX said:
Oh how the mighty have fallen. But he's back!
I think that pic of Arnie proves one thing; when you get to a certain age, it's very easy to get out of shape. And when you do, its pretty ugly. But give the guy props for turning it around. (And yeah, looks like they gave him a partial hairpiece in the "corners" to cover the receeeding hairline.)
Lou looks fantasic. But Lou lives a simpler life. And it shows that most of Lou's muscle were built from hard work, not just big cycles.
This is the generation that is first to test how long we can hold on to a muscular body. Back in the 1950's NOBODY had muscles past the age of 40. It's really pretty fucking remarkable.
I think that pic of Arnie proves one thing; when you get to a certain age, it's very easy to get out of shape. And when you do, its pretty ugly. But give the guy props for turning it around. (And yeah, looks like they gave him a partial hairpiece in the "corners" to cover the receeeding hairline.)
Lou looks fantasic. But Lou lives a simpler life. And it shows that most of Lou's muscle were built from hard work, not just big cycles.
This is the generation that is first to test how long we can hold on to a muscular body. Back in the 1950's NOBODY had muscles past the age of 40. It's really pretty fucking remarkable.
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Lou never lets himself go ,he trains year round. Arnold was always famous for going up and down. Im sorry but there is no way a guy can train with anything like the intensity Arnold did for four hours a day , six days a week and grow without shit loads of juice to recover,doubly so when you're out of your twenties.Nelson Montana said:
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NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.....
I will never disrespect the man. Arnold has been my Idol since I was a child and probably always will be, when it comes to bodybuilding. First of all, who knows where this sport would be without him. Second, believe it or not, but YES, everyone does get old, and NO, as you grow older you cannot keep the body you had while in your 20s. It is sad that those pictures of Arnold on the beach got out, if that even is him, and it is even more sad to see them posted on a message board related to bodybuilding, IT PISSES ME OFF!!!
Very very disappointing, show some respect to the man who made this sport that we all take part in what it is today.
I will never disrespect the man. Arnold has been my Idol since I was a child and probably always will be, when it comes to bodybuilding. First of all, who knows where this sport would be without him. Second, believe it or not, but YES, everyone does get old, and NO, as you grow older you cannot keep the body you had while in your 20s. It is sad that those pictures of Arnold on the beach got out, if that even is him, and it is even more sad to see them posted on a message board related to bodybuilding, IT PISSES ME OFF!!!
Very very disappointing, show some respect to the man who made this sport that we all take part in what it is today.
Mandinka2
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Re: Re: NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.....
Modern bodybuilding is a joke sadly , Arnold albeit a former hero of mine did a lot of promotion of the sport and the Weiders sadly who are mostly responsible. He should have outed them for the crooks they are and has yet to redeem himself. In fairness today he is a pretty honest guy when speaking privately but he too knows who butters his bread...gwl9dta4 said:
Amen Brother, Amen.
c3bodybuilding
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Mandika, you talk about how Lou stays in shape year round, and Arnold's training is shit blah blah blah... Did you know Lou trains the same way as Arnold? Each muscle 2-3x a week. Infact thats how all the guys from back then trained, most still do up until this day. These guys had incredible genetics, and know how to train their bodies. Just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't mean you should knock it. Because chances are you don't have the genetics they do. Sure theres juice, but nothing like today, and nothing like what you see even some newbies taking on the board.
"I read it in this book" blah blah blah blah. Where you around in the 70's? Did you see what these guys took? Oh, wait, you read it in a book. We've seen Sofa, Realgains and Nelson post about what kind of dosages these guys took, and these are guys that where there during the golden years of bodybuilding. And it's not massive amounts. I'll take first hand experience rather than what someone read in a book and swears is true.
"I read it in this book" blah blah blah blah. Where you around in the 70's? Did you see what these guys took? Oh, wait, you read it in a book. We've seen Sofa, Realgains and Nelson post about what kind of dosages these guys took, and these are guys that where there during the golden years of bodybuilding. And it's not massive amounts. I'll take first hand experience rather than what someone read in a book and swears is true.
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Snarf said:Easy Frackal. It is a funny picture and it is amazing that he could get back into the kind of shape he is showing in T3. But for being 56 and having heart surgery he looks average and for being Arnold he looks bad.
Here is a full size image for everyone:
I'll be back!
I don't believe that is Arnold.
Mandinka2
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Louie trains a lot yes , but he actually likes to train , he never goes off like Arnold , so of course it is much easier for him to keep muscle than Arnold. Ever come off a cycle and stop training , can u say "shrink"?C3bodybuilding said:
Some did , some didnt know how to train , Sergio Oliva was a true freak , Arnold not IMO but nice arms. You might well be right , take a look at my pic , Arnold was way bigger but I will never be prepared to take the risks he did , 45mg of d-bo in a single dose? Roids were legal man , they didnt know about the dangers back then , now let's see , in such an environment , can u imagine what the guys on this board woul suggest?C3bodybuilding said:
Arnold wrote "Education of a Bodybuilder". good enough 4 ya?C3bodybuilding said:
Did you see what these guys took? Oh, wait, you read it in a book.
I've posted on some of those very same threads, I've read numerous steroid books alluding to Arnold's love of high dosages (W.A.R. , USM etc.,Ducahine articles) . When I was younger I thought Arnold was the shit, then I read everything I could get my hands on about the guy and he just isn't that rosy for me anymore. He was a bully in the gym , he scared other lifters with drug use , Oliva was denied because Weider couldn't make money off of him. Mentzer was shit on from a skyscraper (even Arnold admitted that). Pro - bodybuilding is a grubby shit-stained sport , head ove to T-Mag and read up on it , they have some terrific articles.C3bodybuilding said:
