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*Ross Presents: The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle*

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The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle​



Sometimes, two things just CLICK. They COMPLIMENT each other...

Jack and Coke

Bonnie & Clyde

Peanut Butter & Jelly

You get the idea. Sometimes, two things just fit together PERFECTLY, resulting in something that is MUCH greater than either variable alone...

Throughout my experience as a HARDCORE bodybuilder, I have used all different types of unique combinations of anabolic steroids. Some worked well, others sucked. Though my journey was not in vain, my creative efforts weren't fruitless. This is the beauty of trial and error...

I present to you the Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle: Testosterone and Masteron.

The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle can be used as BOTH, a BULKING cycle and a CUTTING cycle.


There is a PROFOUND synergism that occurs between testosterone and this highly POTENT Dhihydrotestosterone derivative. While Bulking, the user can expect TREMENDOUS gains in muscle-mass and strength, as well as a SHOCKING increase in muscle HARDNESS, vascularity, and definition. While Cutting, the user will experience a substantially increased metabolism; a product of Masteron's distinct androgenic effect that also will protect precious muscle mass, increase strength, and above all, make the MUSCLES AS HARD AS STEEL!

MOST Testosterone cycles leave you looking bloated and puffy, especially if you are BULKING. On the PB&J Cycle, Your body simply looks GREAT! While BULKING, you can still maintain a LEAN and HARD appearance(as opposed to most test cycles), and when cutting, you will look inhuman.

When using Masteron with testosterone, an AI is rarely needed, as Masteron function as a potent anti-aromatase. It also DRASTICALLY increases Free Testosterone, so masteron drastically increases the EFFECTIVENESS of testosterone. The end result in a two-way synergistic PUNCH that can ONLY be accomplished when combining these two remarkable compounds.


BULKING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 500mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 150mgs EOD
*Pre PCT*
*PCT*


CUTTING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-8: Testosterone Propionate, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100ngs EOD
*Pre-PCT*
*PCT*
 
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I've actually always heard this same theory for test and proviron... and I know proviron and masteron are pretty similar... so do you still think masteron is better and why? I've actually run proviron with several of my test-based cycles... although it helped somewhat, some bloat was always inevitable (even with an AI!).
 
njmuscleguy said:
I've actually always heard this same theory for test and proviron... and I know proviron and masteron are pretty similar... so do you still think masteron is better and why? I've actually run proviron with several of my test-based cycles... although it helped somewhat, some bloat was always inevitable (even with an AI!).
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Proviron is the NEXT best thing..:)

Masteron is everything that Proviron is, PLUS a whole lot MORE!:)

Strength, agression, muscles of STEEL.
 
Ok so here you're recommending materon throughout the cycle, but didn't you initially recommend it as a "pre-PCT" along-side with Primo? If so, how would that work? Just run the masteron entire cycle and beyond?
 
njmuscleguy said:
Ok so here you're recommending materon throughout the cycle, but didn't you initially recommend it as a "pre-PCT" along-side with Primo? If so, how would that work? Just run the masteron entire cycle and beyond?
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Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 500mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 150mgs EOD
*Pre PCT: Primobolan, 200mgs/Proviron/50mgs
*PCT*
 
Mac173 said:
Is masteron suppresive.
I've heard conflicting opinions on whether or not proviron is.
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Masteron is presumably more suppressive than Proviron, but not very suppressive at all.

It's the Androgenic component that fools people into thinking Masteron is suppressive, though this is not true. Same is the case with Halotestin, which is also barely HPTA suppressive.
 
- Ross - said:
Masteron is presumably more suppressive than Proviron, but not very suppressive at all.

It's the Androgenic component that fools people into thinking Masteron is suppressive, though this is not true. Same is the case with Halotestin, which is also barely HPTA suppressive.
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Halo would be the perfect steroid -- if it wasn't so damn toxic!
 
Damn, it sure is tempting but I hate ed or eod injections. Does Masteron come in an Enanthate ester. Any way, I always use proviron with Test and it helps out with keeping me hard and dry. I'm just drooling at what Masteron would do.
 
How about masteron on the hairline? Just as bad as proviron is on some people? I would love to use masteron but right now tren is tearing my hair apart!
My next cycle:

1-8or10 - Test Prop 100-200mgs/EOD
1-4 - Turinabol 60mgs/ED
1-10 - Aromasin 25mgs/EOD

Would be nice to add a hardener like masteron but i'm young and love my hair. It's gonna go sometime but not now!
 
soon i'll be adding masteron to my prop/primo/var cycle.....hoping its works well.....i know masteron with tren and prop was just ungodly fantastic!!! if thats a word
 
Is there such thing as a Goober Grape cycle??? That sounds more my speed and I only need to get one knife dirty.
 
Vascular Freak said:
soon i'll be adding masteron to my prop/primo/var cycle.....hoping its works well.....i know masteron with tren and prop was just ungodly fantastic!!! if thats a word
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You bastard! :p
 
Mrpumped said:
You bastard! :p
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i get primo cheap and when it comes to my body money is no option....only run the best....what else can be worth more than your body??? fuck all the harsh dirty gear....stick with the "race fuel"!!! :p
 
UFC22 said:
How about masteron on the hairline? Just as bad as proviron is on some people? I would love to use masteron but right now tren is tearing my hair apart!
My next cycle:

1-8or10 - Test Prop 100-200mgs/EOD
1-4 - Turinabol 60mgs/ED
1-10 - Aromasin 25mgs/EOD

Would be nice to add a hardener like masteron but i'm young and love my hair. It's gonna go sometime but not now!
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Masteron has a bad reputation for hairloss, but I don't think it is quite deserved. I think that it's an assumption based on it's projected androgenic characteristics. I do not know it's affinity for the scalp, this is all that matters.

I don't have the gene, so I have no problems.
 
UFC22 said:
How about masteron on the hairline? Just as bad as proviron is on some people? I would love to use masteron but right now tren is tearing my hair apart!
My next cycle:

1-8or10 - Test Prop 100-200mgs/EOD
1-4 - Turinabol 60mgs/ED
1-10 - Aromasin 25mgs/EOD

Would be nice to add a hardener like masteron but i'm young and love my hair. It's gonna go sometime but not now!
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At the rate you're at it will be gone long before you're ready.
Pain is temporary, victory is forever;
AAS-induced muscle gains are temporary, baldness is forever.
 
bbkingpin said:
At the rate you're at it will be gone long before you're ready.
Pain is temporary, victory is forever;
AAS-induced muscle gains are temporary, baldness is forever.
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AAS-induced muscle gains are permanent if you make them such,
 
bbkingpin said:
At the rate you're at it will be gone long before you're ready.
Pain is temporary, victory is forever;
AAS-induced muscle gains are temporary, baldness is forever.
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but the memories of tapping "sexy ass" is lifelong!!! lol j/k bigcracker will destroy me for saying that...sorry bro!!! :p
 
I'm assuming most if not all use masteron enanthate instead of the prop version. Am I wrong in assuming this?
 
- Ross - said:
While Cutting, the user will experience a substantially increased metabolism; a product of Masteron's distinct androgenic effect that also will protect precious muscle mass, increase strength, and above all, make the MUSCLES AS HARD AS STEEL!
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So your argument here is that a steroid's androgenicity will increase metabolism... okay, I'll bite. But how is masteron any different than other less anabolic steroids?

When using Masteron with testosterone, an AI is rarely needed, as Masteron function as a potent anti-aromatase. It also DRASTICALLY increases Free Testosterone, so masteron drastically increases the EFFECTIVENESS of testosterone. The end result in a two-way synergistic PUNCH that can ONLY be accomplished when combining these two remarkable compounds.
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Interesting. But you neglect to say why or how. Is this substantiated, or made up?

BULKING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 500mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 150mgs EOD
*Pre PCT*
*PCT*


CUTTING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-8: Testosterone Propionate, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100ngs EOD
*Pre-PCT*
*PCT*
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So the only difference between [the often overused terms of] bulking and cutting cycles is a couple longer-acting testosterone esters? Paying attention to halflives and making a few calculations can result in similar levels, so I don't see how you're differentiating bulking from cutting here.



:cow:
 
muscleup said:
Its mild...but I like to have an Androgen/Anabolic ratio.
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I got 60ml of 400mg eq just calling my name.lol sadly I am doing a test only cycle right now lol.jumps started 100mg prop ed 6 weeks and doing 500mg ew test-e in week 6 right now I got so much fucking gear right now I think I might just stay on for life.lol so much to chose from test all kinds/tren/eq/mast/deca/primo/anavar/winny/dbol/adrol/ fuck I got it all and just cant make up my mind on what to run.thats why I just said the hell with it ill run a test only cycle for a wile and just think about it. :evil:
 
Lucky Bastid !!! :artist:
needtogetaas said:
I got 60ml of 400mg eq just calling my name.lol sadly I am doing a test only cycle right now lol.jumps started 100mg prop ed 6 weeks and doing 500mg ew test-e in week 5 right now I got so much fucking gear right now I think I might just stay on for life.lol so much to chose from test all kinds/tren/eq/mast/deca/primo/anavar/winny/dbol/adrol/ fuck I got it all and just cant make up my mind on what to run.thats why I just said the hell with it ill run a test only cycle for a wile and just think about it. :evil:
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muscleup said:
Lucky Bastid !!! :artist:
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one of the perks of being a big dog around here.lol got enough pct shit to last I life time to.....thing is I dont want to stay on for life...I want to do pct and take some time off.I need to find out how long you can stay on and still do pct after and be ok....I mean could I stay on for a year and still recover or would I be fucked if I stayed on that long.
 
Dude people stay on for years and are able to retrieve normal levels usually within 12-18 months of going clean.

Many people here will agree with me on this....Maybe even AR ???

I know he is on HRT, like myself.
needtogetaas said:
one of the perks of being a big dog around here.lol got enough pct shit to last I life time to.....thing is I dont want to stay on for life...I want to do pct and take some time off.I need to find out how long you can stay on and still do pct after and be ok....I mean could I stay on for a year and still recover or would I be fucked if I stayed on that long.
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muscleup said:
Dude people stay on for years and are able to retrieve normal levels usually within 12-18 months of going clean.

Many people here will agree with me on this....Maybe even AR ???

I know he is on HRT, like myself.
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12-18 months holy shit thats a long time.sounds like you would lose a lot in that time.
 
That usually in extreme cases....I personally doubt it would be much different than any other PCT. Your body will get used to carrying a certain amount of mass and only so much will you lose.
needtogetaas said:
12-18 months holy shit thats a long time.sounds like you would lose a lot in that time.
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muscleup said:
That usually in extreme cases....I personally doubt it would be much different than any other PCT. Your body will get used to carrying a certain amount of mass and only so much will you lose.
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just what I wanted to here.lol :evil:
 
What about peanut butter and banana or toast and jam? Now those are some good cycles right there.

Perp
 
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What do you think about Test/Tren/Equipoise/Masteron cycle ross? Would that be the ultimate cutter? Doses like so

Test 500mg ew
Eq 600mg ew
Tren 400mg ew
Masteron 150mg eod
 
muscleup said:
Dude people stay on for years and are able to retrieve normal levels usually within 12-18 months of going clean.

Many people here will agree with me on this....Maybe even AR ???

I know he is on HRT, like myself.
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I have never done any kind of PCT whatsoever.

I did 34 weeks of EQ and winstrol before and just stopped. Bounced right back.

My last cycle was 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly, 3 ius of GH daily and when I simply stopped the cycle. Later (8 months) I took that hormone test for establishing a baseline for my Derma use with PP and my test levels were in the high range.

I honestly believe you can bring your body back to normal levels on it's own. As long as you don't have any obstacles in your way (smoking habits, excessive drinking, diet slacking, etc..)
 
muscleup said:
Dude people stay on for years and are able to retrieve normal levels usually within 12-18 months of going clean.

Many people here will agree with me on this....Maybe even AR ???

I know he is on HRT, like myself.
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I was on for three years, and came off for three weeks...I was still at the high(er) end of hypogonadal (just under 250ng/dl) without any PCT at all.

I assume I would have been somewhere in the low end of normal within a month or two. I don't know how long it would have taken me to get to the level I was at prior to every doing any AAS (about 650ng/dl, taken just prior to my first cycle at age 19)...that probably wouldn't even be possible, because a decade has passed, but I'm reasonably sure I could get to maybe a high 400 or so...low(ish) but nowhere near hypogonadal...maybe back to my 19 year old levels with my pct protocol and supplement.
 
AAP said:
I honestly believe you can bring your body back to normal levels on it's own. As long as you don't have any obstacles in your way (smoking habits, excessive drinking, diet slacking, etc..)
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Welp, that eliminates about 90% of the guys here. lol
 
BigCracker said:
Welp, that eliminates about 90% of the guys here. lol
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As a side note on smoking...Nicotine lowers estrogen (is an AI)...and maybe helps with keeping DHT where I'd want it too.
 
muscleup said:
Dude people stay on for years and are able to retrieve normal levels usually within 12-18 months of going clean.

Many people here will agree with me on this....Maybe even AR ???

I know he is on HRT, like myself.
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Do you mean stay on "cycle" for years or HRT?

Not sure if it makes a difference... some believe that suppression is suppression, regardless of how much test, etc. you take... and then those that believe there are varying degrees of suppression, which would suggest that one could recover more easily from 18 months of "HRT dosages" as opposed to 18 months of "cycle dosages"
 
I tend to believe supression is supression, but hey thats just me.

I was speaking in terms of HRT with a few "blast" in there as well.
njmuscleguy said:
Do you mean stay on "cycle" for years or HRT?

Not sure if it makes a difference... some believe that suppression is suppression, regardless of how much test, etc. you take... and then those that believe there are varying degrees of suppression, which would suggest that one could recover more easily from 18 months of "HRT dosages" as opposed to 18 months of "cycle dosages"
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muscleup said:
I tend to believe supression is supression, but hey thats just me.

I was speaking in terms of HRT with a few "blast" in there as well.
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And you're saying it's proven that people can make full recovery after long periods of suppression?
 
sure it is.....Endo's will have somone on TRT/HRT for years and they can make a full recovery....The body will eventually "even" itself out.

In some cases people do not recover, but usually this means they were going to go hypogonadal is the long term anyways.

Also this is not advice that Im giving out...Just discussion.
njmuscleguy said:
And you're saying it's proven that people can make full recovery after long periods of suppression?
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My body tends to bounce back from everything except Deca/tren.
 
muscleup said:
sure it is.....Endo's will have somone on TRT/HRT for years and they can make a full recovery....The body will eventually "even" itself out.

In some cases people do not recover, but usually this means they were going to go hypogonadal is the long term anyways.

Also this is not advice that Im giving out...Just discussion.
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understood.... just trying to make sense of this... so why would an endo have someone on TRT/HRT for years if they're not hypogonadal (or approaching it)? And if they are hypogonadal, then what's the point of coming off and making a full recovery... they would only recover to the highest level the body would allow, which is below "normal"
 
njmuscleguy said:
understood.... just trying to make sense of this... so why would an endo have someone on TRT/HRT for years if they're not hypogonadal (or approaching it)? And if they are hypogonadal, then what's the point of coming off and making a full recovery... they would only recover to the highest level the body would allow, which is below "normal"
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That's my question too. People talk about Dr.John Crissler's PCT methods...but he's a TRT/HRT doctor...why would he even have a PCT method?

He's a brilliant HRT doc, isn't he? He gives people who are low in testosterone (drum roll please):

Testosterone!

What a pioneer...pure genius, I say...
 
needtogetaas said:
what about its effects on cortizol ???
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I'd have to look into that. I would bet it raises cortisol though, because it's a potent fat loss agent...
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I'd have to look into that. I would bet it raises cortisol though, because it's a potent fat loss agent...
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I know once people try to come off of it they can experience rapid weight gain thats for shore.
 
needtogetaas said:
I know once people try to come off of it they can experience rapid weight gain thats for shore.
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That's also due to the fact that they need something to fill the void.
 
so much for peanut butter & jelly *grin*
 
the point of coming off while being hypogonadal is usually based on fertility issues among men. Somtimes peoples priority changes and they may decide they want a family in the long run.

njmuscleguy said:
understood.... just trying to make sense of this... so why would an endo have someone on TRT/HRT for years if they're not hypogonadal (or approaching it)? And if they are hypogonadal, then what's the point of coming off and making a full recovery... they would only recover to the highest level the body would allow, which is below "normal"
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Ross said:
The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle​



Sometimes, two things just CLICK. They COMPLIMENT each other...

Jack and Coke

Bonnie & Clyde

Peanut Butter & Jelly

You get the idea. Sometimes, two things just fit together PERFECTLY, resulting in something that is MUCH greater than either variable alone...

Throughout my experience as a HARDCORE bodybuilder, I have used all different types of unique combinations of anabolic steroids. Some worked well, others sucked. Though my journey was not in vain, my creative efforts weren't fruitless. This is the beauty of trial and error...

I present to you the Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle: Testosterone and Masteron.

The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle can be used as BOTH, a BULKING cycle and a CUTTING cycle.


There is a PROFOUND synergism that occurs between testosterone and this highly POTENT Dhihydrotestosterone derivative. While Bulking, the user can expect TREMENDOUS gains in muscle-mass and strength, as well as a SHOCKING increase in muscle HARDNESS, vascularity, and definition. While Cutting, the user will experience a substantially increased metabolism; a product of Masteron's distinct androgenic effect that also will protect precious muscle mass, increase strength, and above all, make the MUSCLES AS HARD AS STEEL!

MOST Testosterone cycles leave you looking bloated and puffy, especially if you are BULKING. On the PB&J Cycle, Your body simply looks GREAT! While BULKING, you can still maintain a LEAN and HARD appearance(as opposed to most test cycles), and when cutting, you will look inhuman.

When using Masteron with testosterone, an AI is rarely needed, as Masteron function as a potent anti-aromatase. It also DRASTICALLY increases Free Testosterone, so masteron drastically increases the EFFECTIVENESS of testosterone. The end result in a two-way synergistic PUNCH that can ONLY be accomplished when combining these two remarkable compounds.


BULKING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 500mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 150mgs EOD
*Pre PCT*
*PCT*


CUTTING cycle:

Weeks 1-6: Jumpstart(Optional)
Weeks 1-8: Testosterone Propionate, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100ngs EOD
*Pre-PCT*
*PCT*
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I think one could switch out the mast for mosterdrol which is the oral form of masterom but stronger if you ask me. Its still a dht derivative as well :p
 
needtogetaas said:
I think one could switch out the mast for mosterdrol which is the oral form of masterom but stronger if you ask me. Its still a dht derivative as well :p
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just got my monsterdrol today :evil:
 
hi ,bwl,,,so dianabol week 1-4,30mg ed,,,testprop 150mg eod,masteron ,??eod?would that be a good short cycle ,no need for hcg right?just sustain alpha for pct be good?
 
skaman007 said:
hi ,bwl,,,so dianabol week 1-4,30mg ed,,,testprop 150mg eod,masteron ,??eod?would that be a good short cycle ,no need for hcg right?just sustain alpha for pct be good?
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That is a great cycle my friend, run it as follows:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs ED
Weeks 1-6: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-6: Testosterone Propionate, 100mgs EOD

If your gear is 100% legit, these dosages are perfectly optimal. However, unless you are using 100% Pharmaceutical-Grade Anabolics from a reputable source, you can stick with 150mgs EOD of each(Test/Mast).


For PCT:
Weeks 1-4: AndroGenerator
Weeks 1-6: Sustain Alpha
Weeks 1-6: Omnibolic


ENJOY!
 
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Ross said:
That is a great cycle my friend, run it as follows:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs ED
Weeks 1-6: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-6: Testosterone Propionate, 100mgs EOD

If your gear is 100% legit, these dosages are perfectly optimal. However, unless you are using 100% Pharmaceutical-Grade Anabolics from a reputable source, you can stick with 150mgs EOD of each(Test/Mast).


For PCT:
Weeks 1-4: AndroGenerator
Weeks 1-6: Sustain Alpha
Weeks 1-6: Omnibolic


ENJOY!
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Sustain Alpha is a part of every good pct. pm me for a discount.
 
the_alcatraz said:
A 6 week cycle of test is a waste IMO, even if it's test prop...run test for at least 10 weeks.
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Not on Propionate my friend, 6 weeks is plenty and 8 weeks is optimal. I can gain some serious mass in 6 weeks, especially if I have been OFF for several months.
 
I know a handful of guys who for whatever reason bought one bottle of test cyp and took a shot every monday and thursday for 5 weeks and did quite well. Many gained 20lbs +.
 
Ross said:
Not on Propionate my friend, 6 weeks is plenty and 8 weeks is optimal. I can gain some serious mass in 6 weeks, especially if I have been OFF for several months.
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And let me tell you about my friend test suspension:biggrin: O fucking hell ya I found a new love.
 
Ross said:
Not on Propionate my friend, 6 weeks is plenty and 8 weeks is optimal. I can gain some serious mass in 6 weeks, especially if I have been OFF for several months.
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How many of the gains are you going to keep if you're cycle is 6 weeks?

I have noticed that I have kept most of my gains wehn cycles are 10 weeks + but have lost a lot of my gains when cycles are only 6 weeks, even with proper PCT and diet....6 weeks of test is just not enough IMO
 
the_alcatraz said:
How many of the gains are you going to keep if you're cycle is 6 weeks?

I have noticed that I have kept most of my gains wehn cycles are 10 weeks + but have lost a lot of my gains when cycles are only 6 weeks, even with proper PCT and diet....6 weeks of test is just not enough IMO
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That's utter nonsense homie, muscle is muscle.

You will keep the same amount of gains as you would from another testosterone ester.
 
Ross said:
That's utter nonsense homie, muscle is muscle.

You will keep the same amount of gains as you would from another testosterone ester.
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How wrong you are my friend...

Are you telling me that you get the same gains from 6 weeks of test as the gains you get from 10 weeks of test?

what does "muscle is muscle" have to do with anything? lol
 
the_alcatraz said:
How wrong you are my friend...

Are you telling me that you get the same gains from 6 weeks of test as the gains you get from 10 weeks of test?

what does "muscle is muscle" have to do with anything? lol
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You thought you would LOSE MUSCLE EASIER after a 6 week cycle as opposed to a 10 week cycle, which is NONSENSE. Muscle is muscle.
 
Ross said:
You thought you would LOSE MUSCLE EASIER after a 6 week cycle as opposed to a 10 week cycle, which is NONSENSE. Muscle is muscle.
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I said nothing about muscle. I said "gains"

Everyone knows that you don't keep ALL your gains after a cycle. I don't need a degree in sports medicine or chemistry to figure that out.

I said that the degree of how much "gains" you keep after cycle depends on several factors including PCT, diet AND length of cycle.
 
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