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roid rage article

goku_kakarot77

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good this from another board


I found a few studies on the topic, that were posted on superior muscle by yellowjacket.




The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men--a clinical research center study.

Tricker R, Casaburi R, Storer TW, Clevenger B, Berman N, Shirazi A, Bhasin S
Division of Endocrinology, Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science, Los Angeles, California 90059, USA.

Anecdotal reports of "roid rage" and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts. However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses, lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology. To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders, and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups: Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions. The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook, and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior, were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention. The subject's significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject's mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI). No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI. Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group. Conclusion: Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting, do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.

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Baillieres Clin Endocrinol Metab 1998 Oct;12(3):521-34

Potential adverse effects of long-term testosterone therapy.

Rolf C, Nieschlag E.

Institute of Reproductive Medicine of the University, Munster, Germany.

Natural testosterone and its esters, even when applied in supraphysiological doses, rarely produce side-effects. Via a negative feedback mechanism, exogenous testosterone suppresses the production of lutenizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone, and leads to reduced testicular sperm production and, consequently, reduced testicular volume. The main concerns for the potential adverse effects of testosterone treatment are the prostate and the cardiovascular system. Androgens play a permissive role in the development of prostate cancer and benign prostate hyperplasia; however, there are no data to indicate that testosterone administration can lead to the progression of pre-clinical or clinical prostate cancer. Whether the effects of testosterone treatment on lipid metabolism are clinically relevant is as yet undetermined. The effects of testosterone on behaviour, especially on aggression, have not been firmly established. Some androgen effects, such as virilization and coarsening of the voice, considered normal in adult men are inappropriate in women and children.

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Clin Endocrinol Metab 1992 Dec;75(6):1503-7

The effects of exogenous testosterone on sexuality and mood of normal men.

Anderson RA, Bancroft J, Wu FC.

Medical Research Council Reproductive Biology Unit, Centre for Reproductive Biology, Edinburgh, Scotland.

The effects of supraphysiological levels of testosterone, used for male contraception, on sexual behavior and mood were studied in a single-blind, placebo-controlled manner in a group of 31 normal men. After 4 weeks of baseline observations, the men were randomized into two groups: one group received 200 mg testosterone enanthate (TE) weekly by im injection for 8 weeks (Testosterone Only group), the other received placebo injections once weekly for the first 4 weeks followed by TE 200 mg weekly for the following 4 weeks (Placebo/Testosterone group). The testosterone administration increased trough plasma testosterone levels by 80%, compatible with peak testosterone levels 400-500% above baseline. Various aspects of sexuality were assessed using sexuality experience scales (SES) questionnaires at the end of each 4-week period while sexual activity and mood states were recorded by daily dairies and self-rating scales. In both groups there was a significant increase in scores in the Psychosexual Stimulation Scale of the SES (i.e. SES 2) following testosterone administration, but not with placebo. There were no changes in SES 3, which measures aspects of sexual interaction with the partner. In both groups there were no changes in frequency of sexual intercourse, masturbation, or penile erection on waking nor in any of the moods reported. The Placebo/Testosterone group showed an increase in self-reported interest in sex during testosterone treatment but not with placebo. The SES 2 results suggest that sexual awareness and arousability can be increased by supraphysiological levels of testosterone. However, these changes are not reflected in modifications of overt sexual behavior, which in eugonadal men may be more determined by sexual relationship factors. This contrasts with hypogonadal men, in whom testosterone replacement clearly stimulates sexual behavior. There was no evidence to suggest an alteration in any of the mood states studied, in particular those associated with increased aggression. We conclude that supraphysiological levels of testosterone maintained for up to 2 months can promote some aspects of sexual arousability without stimulating sexual activity in eugonadal men within stable heterosexual relationships. Raising testosterone does not increase self-reported ratings of aggressive feelings.
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Everytime I take steroids it makes me want to murder people :rolleyes:
 
needtogetaas said:
I love it in the gym to. I have learned to deal out of the gym.


i use it in gym too and some guy gave me the awkward eye cause his girl kept checking me out and i was on tren, thank god i didnt do something to that ass wipe, out of gym i keep my cool always , humble is the way to go
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
i use it in gym too and some guy gave me the awkward eye cause his girl kept checking me out and i was on tren, thank god i didnt do something to that ass wipe, out of gym i keep my cool always , humble is the way to go
I flipped in the gym once. I work out at a pussy gym. One of the workers busted my balls for not wiping down the bench when I was don. Was talking down to me like I was a peace of shit. Needless to say I flipped out and 4-5 employees had to come stand around and act like they were going to do something.

I been going to this gym since it opened 3 years ago. Fuck them. :p
 
Do you guys think Roid Rage really exists?

I know for a fact that aas makes me a lot more aggressive and much stronger, but to the point where you RAGE against people for no apparent reason?
 
the_alcatraz said:
Do you guys think Roid Rage really exists?

I know for a fact that aas makes me a lot more aggressive and much stronger, but to the point where you RAGE against people for no apparent reason?
No
 
I was walking out of a club friday night and some security guard was standing in my way so I said

"watch out fool" and he apologized and got the fuck out of my way but I would of done this even if not on roids lol
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
i use it in gym too and some guy gave me the awkward eye cause his girl kept checking me out and i was on tren, thank god i didnt do something to that ass wipe, out of gym i keep my cool always , humble is the way to go

I just power up to super saiyan and nobody fucks with me. Problem solved.
 
i think there can be roid irritability/moodiness. definitely not rage. although i think it will make you less passive in a threat situation, i can see how it could modify your reaction to a situation but in a way that is still tempered by reasoning/logic. in otherwords, doesn't make you feel/do anything you didn't before, maybe just amplifies.
 
10001110101 said:
i think there can be roid irritability/moodiness. definitely not rage. although i think it will make you less passive in a threat situation, i can see how it could modify your reaction to a situation but in a way that is still tempered by reasoning/logic. in otherwords, doesn't make you feel/do anything you didn't before, maybe just amplifies.

did you just say roids make you passive bro?
 
Basically if you are an agressive person by nature aka an asshole that has problems w "anger management" like brawlers and thugs steroids will likely amplify the effects by making them feel invencible.

Every now and then good people have problems but can handle them w self-control, most of the times LOL.
 
Using 600mg test PW in a study is just not going to give you any indication of psychological changes to steriod users. It is more profound when total usage is around 3gms PW or more. It is definately dose & time related. Google "aggressive behaviour in steriod users" or similar for evidence & studies.
 
Call it what you want.... unless you're a pussy by nature, you are going to become more aggressive on certain steroids, i.e. Tren, Halo. If you don't - you've got bunk gear. Personally, I have had experiences where I have become extremely aggitated while taking those two AAS
However, I'm a type "A" personality! .... I guess the A stands for asshole. :mad:
 
I think it gives me less patience(especially tren!!), I will get annoyed much faster, but like everyone said you just have to know how to control yourself. But the few friends that know I'll do it or at least think they do will say something about roid rage everytime I get pissed, but hell they do that when I'm off too.
 
nzrodney said:
Using 600mg test PW in a study is just not going to give you any indication of psychological changes to steriod users. It is more profound when total usage is around 3gms PW or more. It is definately dose & time related. Google "aggressive behaviour in steriod users" or similar for evidence & studies.

lol, take some average guys who have never juiced and give them 3 grams of test per week? Damn.

I was wondering about these interviews with the spouses. I'm thinking average guys getting 600 gms of HG per week were banging the hell out of their wives every night. My gf loves it when it's cycle time. You should see her face light up.

No rage here, just fun and gains.
 
OneBreath said:
lol, take some average guys who have never juiced and give them 3 grams of test per week? Damn.

I was wondering about these interviews with the spouses. I'm thinking average guys getting 600 gms of HG per week were banging the hell out of their wives every night. My gf loves it when it's cycle time. You should see her face light up.

No rage here, just fun and gains.


I know!...Her face really DOES light up! :worried:

:lmao:
 
the_alcatraz said:
Do you guys think Roid Rage really exists?

I know for a fact that aas makes me a lot more aggressive and much stronger, but to the point where you RAGE against people for no apparent reason?
I have actually always felt like I was more mellow and balanced while on. I think it is when bro's dont know what there doing and dont use propert PCT technique is when the get hormone inbalances and then loose it....
 
I'm an angry person, with a bad attitude. While On, it's no worse, in fact probably better. I'm cocky as hell and a fucking social butterfly (no-homo).
 
I have taken them on and off for years and have only once felt any sort of over aggression that wasn't just high blood pressure and that was once on Halo. It made me short tempered but I have never had any kind of "Roid Rage" where I felt I could lose control. I actually feel happier when I am on test rather than when I am off of it. I am over 40 and own my own company and have a good easy life where I answer to no one and have plenty of time and money for the good things in life. That could also be a reason I have no rage in me when I am on. When life is good it's hard to be angry about things.
 
I'm about to start my first cycle but I wanna do a little more research before I start. I'm planning on deca 300mg/wk, hcg, and then clomid. I would like to run test but I'm afraid of the aggression since I have such a short fuse as it is. Is this something I need to worry about?
 
miketx said:
I'm about to start my first cycle but I wanna do a little more research before I start. I'm planning on deca 300mg/wk, hcg, and then clomid. I would like to run test but I'm afraid of the aggression since I have such a short fuse as it is. Is this something I need to worry about?


Run the test or have Deca Dick.....
 
Don't take 'roid rage' literally.
It only means that people tend to have shorter fuses.
It does cause anxiety, and that may cause people to easily loose temper and have less 'frustration tolerance'.
Just be more careful with your temper.
 
TheSourceCheck.com said:
NO, its a damn myth. I think if you were angry before...you'll be angry during and after and vice versa.
Yeah sure its a myth. TSC, you still on HRT at 200mg per month :chainsaw:
 
bbkingpin said:
Don't mix with alcohol. Alcohol alone promotes aggression/violence, so never take tren winny and whiskey!!!

Funny you say that, this weekend is my good bro/work out partner/partner in crimes bday.. For a pair of straight dudes, we roll pretty tight. Anyway, we both got loaded on beer down at the beach. I was sociable, humorous, referred to as charming, and cocky as a mofo. I didn't step on any toes, even when mine were stepped on...it was like "pffft..dude you don't know what you're getting into.." and they didn't even phase me.

Rage is a myth. I have anger control issues when I'm not On, while On (750mg of Test and up to 700mg of Tren A a week) I have no aggression towards anyone..it's about getting a ladies attention, putting more weight up or doing more reps, and of course being the Tony the Tiger of the bedroom.

Not to mention i'm on water pills one week and DNP another..lets not talk about my drug problem though - it's irrelevant.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Do you guys think Roid Rage really exists?

I know for a fact that aas makes me a lot more aggressive and much stronger, but to the point where you RAGE against people for no apparent reason?
I get angry very easily while on but I feel that it is a reselt of raised blood pressure. I started to take BP meds and and am on a Test/tren/winny cycle and have been compleetely peaceful.
 
LoneTree said:
Don't take 'roid rage' literally.
It only means that people tend to have shorter fuses.
It does cause anxiety, and that may cause people to easily loose temper and have less 'frustration tolerance'.
Just be more careful with your temper.



BUMP
 
bbkingpin said:
Don't mix with alcohol. Alcohol alone promotes aggression/violence, so never take tren winny and whiskey!!!

I SAID WHISKEY! BEER PUTS YOU TO SLEEP.

Burpees said:
Funny you say that, this weekend is my good bro/work out partner/partner in crimes bday.. For a pair of straight dudes, we roll pretty tight. Anyway, we both got loaded on beer down at the beach. I was sociable, humorous, referred to as charming, and cocky as a mofo. I didn't step on any toes, even when mine were stepped on...it was like "pffft..dude you don't know what you're getting into.." and they didn't even phase me.

Rage is a myth. I have anger control issues when I'm not On, while On (750mg of Test and up to 700mg of Tren A a week) I have no aggression towards anyone..it's about getting a ladies attention, putting more weight up or doing more reps, and of course being the Tony the Tiger of the bedroom.

Not to mention i'm on water pills one week and DNP another..lets not talk about my drug problem though - it's irrelevant.
:chomp:

GO DRINK A WINE COOLER YOU HOMO AND BE CAREFUL NOT TO STEP ON ANY TOES, SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE JUST GOTTEN A PEDICURE AND RIP YOUR F'IN HEAD OFF ... :)
 
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