heres a little background of me--ive been using over 2 years usually 10-14 wk cycles with 8 wks off---i have been doing a lot more intensive study on diet and drugs and finally within the past 2 months i have discovered the importance of diet--after doing big cycles of test/d-bol/anadrol and other hard drugs i decided to concentrate on diet more than on drugs.. i decided to do a 6 week cutting cycle with very low drugs...on a cutting cycle im used to 75mg fina ed, 100mg prop ed, 75mg winny ed---i decided to say screw it with the higher numbers and go low---so i went 200mg a week of fina ( it was probably less), and 240mg test prop per week and yohimburn and r-ala and that was it--i structured my diet better than i ever have and let me tell you what i lost about 20 lbs with my strength increasing a ton--my arms stayed the same size and even grew a little with my chest--the only thing that shrunk was my face and my stomach and waist---my gf saw me that i hadnt seen in 2 months cuz of school and other crap and she couldnt believe it---i started at 247 and ended at 225 with very visible stomach muscles that were hard to see before and veins comming out that i never knew i had-----my next cycle is bulking with 400mg test per week and 300 mg deca for 10 weeks---its too bad it took this long to see the truth but at least it came and i didnt get hurt.