Really f*@ked off!!!!

[Quest4Perfection]

Im so disheartened! Ive been trying to really cut for the last 6weeks. My calorie intake is 1700 at 50p 25c 25f, i just changed it from 1800 calories as im getting nowhere and so im tryin to switch some things about. Im 6ft and weigh 180lbs with a bf% of id say around 20 at the moment. Im training 6 days a week, lifting 5 times and cardio 3 times. My routine is varied and takes account of tut changes etc, similar to shadows program. I supplement with whey, stack before training, l-carnitine, chromium, glucosamine and a multivit. Basically I havnt cheated in 5weeks, which is a long time for me and I really expected to see some results but im the same weight since 2 months ago! I have changed in terms of inches, but only slightly. I have a lower belly that wont shift, thats where my biggest problem is.
My daily in take looks something like this
9.00 Oatmeal or pita bread wholemeal with cottage cheese
12.00 Pita wholemeal with tuna and mustard
3.00 Pita wholemeal with tuna and mustard
6.00 Protein shake
9.00 Chicken breast with kidney beans or broccoli
11.30 Protein shake with 30ml udos
Water - 5 litres min

Please help!!!! Im going outta my mind!

 

[Linzie1303]

have you tried a diff. ratio than the current one? I can already see that most on the board will say that you are not getting enough fat. How are you getting 25%? Might consider dropping that cottage cheese....and maybe more veggies. hmm...let's see what everyone else says
Linzie

 

[Quadsweeps Sister]

Do you not eat red meat? You are missing a very important amino acid profile.

You are lacking several things in the diet you have posted. You lack good fat, protein and good complex carbs.

How much do you weigh? You are probably starving yourself and your body is reacting with a swing in the 'conservation' direction.

Answer the above questions and I'll try to provide some assistance. Take care.
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[Quest4Perfection]

As i said i weigh 180lbs and i was taking in 1800 cals a day and then changed it to 1700 last week in desperation to see some results. My ratios were 50p 20c 30f. I take in 47-50g of fat per day and its good fat like from fish or from udos. I was eating nuts like almonds but i find it hard to stop and also by body has difficulty processing them. I do eat red meat also but that is just an idea of an average day. My protein comes from are ostrich, venison, beef, chicken, all fish, whey and cottage cheese. My complex carbs come from oatmeal, rye bread and wm pita bread - all of which are low gi. I do definitely need to add more vegies, its just tempting to drop carbs when your desperate to see changes! I mean dropping protein will affect muscle preservation, dropping fats wil effect many things, but overall fat oxidation and then theres carbs for energy. Thanks for your input, any other comments would be greatfully accepted

 

[buffgrl23]

Doing more cardio is what works best for me. The best thing to lose fat and weight for me is doing cardio in the morning before I eat. I would say up your cardio to 5 days/week. How long are you doing cardio on your 3 days/week?

 

[Quest4Perfection]

Im doing usually intervals of high intesity for about 30mins. I was doing 5 a week and then stopped but maybe a need to up it some more and mix intervals with longer sessions to total 5 a week. Thats gonna kill me, but can be done. Thanks

 

[musclemom]

Im training 6 days a week, lifting 5 times and cardio 3 times.

God knows I'm not the person to advise anyone about cutting but it's always easy to be objective about another person, isn't it??? So, how about reversing it??? Empty belly cardio 5 times a week/lifting three?

My daily in take looks something like this
9.00 Oatmeal or pita bread wholemeal with cottage cheese
12.00 Pita wholemeal with tuna and mustard
3.00 Pita wholemeal with tuna and mustard
6.00 Protein shake
9.00 Chicken breast with kidney beans or broccoli
11.30 Protein shake with 30ml udos
Water - 5 litres min

Are you absolutely sure your ratios are 50/25/25? Unless you break it out it can be pretty deceiving (as has been pointed out to me ) I like Quadsweep's sister's suggestion about food variety, it is possible to eat enough calorically but be nutritionally deprived. I'm looking at the pitas ... how many of those do you normally take in a day ... what about something like equivalent brown rice or yam ...

At 6' tall and with working out are you sure you're taking in enough calories to meet your basal metabolic rate? At 1800 calories or so (without knowing your age), with the level of activity you're pursuing, it looks like you may be

The other thing ... every supplement doesn't benefit every person. If you're throwing off some critical nutrient in your particular metabolism you can lock up too. In myself, when I'm nutritionally out of whack I'll notice overwhelming cravings for strange things out of the blue, like chocolate at breakfast time or sardines at bedtime (now chocolate at bedtime and sardines for breakfast, totally normal!). The cravings don't tell me WHAT I need, just that something is lacking.

Just some other thoughts from a fellow sufferer ...

Best, Harriet

 

[Roonytunes]

Is the fat you speak of from fish oil caps etc. or real food like salmon? Just curious....I would add a tablespoon of flax oil if you can daily since that has a decent amount of omega-3 and some omega-6 which is good for fat burning.

I would also try to play around with your ratios more instead of calories personally. I have more luck when I reduce my intake of carbs to under 30%.

I do sympathize with you though because I am sure it's very frustrating. But kudos to you for hanging in there!

 

[Quest4Perfection]

Yeh im sure the ratios r rite, i break em down on excel the night before. I am eating usually 2 pitas a day, each at 23.5g-c 2g-f 5.5g-p. Rice and yams i do aswell for phases. I can go back to them for variety, maybe brown pasta as its lower gi than rice? I dont feel like im lacking anything suplement wise but I know what you mean. Without chromium usually my cravings are off the wall but i feel great, not lethargic, training fine and all else is fine. Its tempting to reduce calories but I know my body will start protecting itself. Thanks a mil for all your help, im just waitin for someone to say those magic words and il say 'thats it!' Lol!

 

[Quest4Perfection]

The fat is liquid (udos choice)- 3 tablespoon usually or 30ml so I got my omegas. This sympathy is great though, mostly i just hear 'geta life'!