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TheOak84 said:
Wowsa, I think you should go 'round spreading your knowledge cuz a whole lot of people are 200+ and can't bench 500. There's a huge difference between training for size and strength specifically. So if someone is 6 foot 4 inches tall and weighs 200 pounds, he should press 500? And the 5 fot 6 inch guy should too? Wow.
teen1216 said:
why not? 200 pounds of muscle is 200 pounds of muscle, whether its short and stocky or long and slim..
i just dont like the guys that brag that they can bench 405, but weigh 300...so what i can bench 100 pounds over my weight too... big deal.... i tell them 'try benching twice your weight fat ass'. and they dont squat or do anything else... ok maybe i got carried away with the 500 pounds.. but at LEAST twice your weight.. ill give you credit if I see you in the gym every day work on strenght. but i wont give credit to a guy who is fat and thinks hes strong... either lose 100 pounds or get stronger...
just my opinion..
Ouchie, Oak. Not cool. 
First of all, powerlifters don't bench with their chest, so that would tell me they have either weak tris, lats, or shoulders (the primary movers in a powerlifting bench).
There is no question that strength to LBM ratios are impressive...they wouldn't be tracked as records if they weren't, but there are other factors that go into a bench. Not everyone has the biomechanics for it.
Not everyone can be good at every lift. My squat is mediocre, my bench is...eh..., but I LOVE to deadlift. Everyone has his/her forte'.
Oak, even YOU could benefit from your advice. Instead of going around talking about how strong you are compared to 50% of the population, start going around thinking about how WEAK you are compared to the other 50%. It's certainly motivating. Sometimes "confidence" becomes "complacence."
First of all, powerlifters don't bench with their chest, so that would tell me they have either weak tris, lats, or shoulders (the primary movers in a powerlifting bench).
There is no question that strength to LBM ratios are impressive...they wouldn't be tracked as records if they weren't, but there are other factors that go into a bench. Not everyone has the biomechanics for it.
Not everyone can be good at every lift. My squat is mediocre, my bench is...eh..., but I LOVE to deadlift. Everyone has his/her forte'.
Oak, even YOU could benefit from your advice. Instead of going around talking about how strong you are compared to 50% of the population, start going around thinking about how WEAK you are compared to the other 50%. It's certainly motivating. Sometimes "confidence" becomes "complacence."
spatts said:Ouchie, Oak. Not cool.
First of all, powerlifters don't bench with their chest, so that would tell me they have either weak tris, lats, or shoulders (the primary movers in a powerlifting bench).
There is no question that strength to LBM ratios are impressive...they wouldn't be tracked as records if they weren't, but there are other factors that go into a bench. Not everyone has the biomechanics for it.
Not everyone can be good at every lift. My squat is mediocre, my bench is...eh..., but I LOVE to deadlift. Everyone has his/her forte'.
Oak, even YOU could benefit from your advice. Instead of going around talking about how strong you are compared to 50% of the population, start going around thinking about how WEAK you are compared to the other 50%. It's certainly motivating. Sometimes "confidence" becomes "complacence."
im sorry..im not trying to be mean...
i do need to bring up my squat though.
im not a powerlifter, (I did go to one meet though. placed 4th as a team), but how dont they use their chest?? also, how do you use your lats to bench...never heard of that before..
i do think about how weak i am compared to other people..
but, what was the ouchie for, whta did i say wrong
you said you lvoe to deadlift, cuz that ur best lift. i try not to favor an exersise. i just dont wanna be unbalanced.. maybe I have to find my FORTE'
You have a really good bench already. Makes me wonder what you could bench in PL form. Powerlifters just bring the bar a little lower to allow for other primary drivers. The chest still gets worked, no doubt about it, it's just not a primary mover. The lats are excellent stablizers, top and bottom, IMHO.
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